Time-timelessness and the Floor of Lord (Indallah)

Hereafter Universe (Floor of Lord) and eternal life

The living creatures in the Hereafter universe (Floor of Lord) are immortal and continue their lives forever (in fixed form) without aging.

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MY TURKISH ARTICLE TRANSLATED WITH TRANSLATOR

https://emre1974tr.blogspot.com.tr/2011/07/ahiret-evrenirabbin-kat-ve-ebedi-yasam.html


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Edited for Rule 4. Do not quote large tracts of text available elsewhere on the internet.
 
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That is some profound **** right there.

I can't wait to hear more and more of this kind of superstition.
 
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-Think not of those who are slain in Allah.s way as dead. Nay, they live, finding their sustenance in the floor of their Lord;

- Allah is pleased with the blessing he has bestowed upon them, and about the Mujahideen who have not joined them as martyrs behind them: "They have no fear, and they will not hear sadness." are found. (Surat al-Fitr 169-170)

According to these verses;

1- While other dead people are really dead (waiting for the resurrection), the martyrs are alive differently from them.

2- They live in blessings on the floor of the Lord (in the Hereafter)

3. When they speak in heaven, they give good news about the people who are still in the world and / or who have not yet been resurrected after they have been killed (they also say words that they will participate in the Jenny)

However, the point to be noted here is that the people who are now in heaven (in the Rabbinic Floor) are as physical as us, they are materially alive. Already according to the Qur'an, there is no such thing as souls, spiritual life. Everlasting life is also the body. All creatures, including angels and goblins, are already members (for example, if we were created from earth, the jinn were also created from fire). You can also read my article on "Nobody has got ghost according to Quran".


Meryem

56. Also mention in the Book the case of Idris: He was a man of truth (and sincerity), (and) a prophet:

57. We raised him in a high/lofty place.


Al-i İmran 55. Behold! Allah said: "O Jesus! I will take thee and raise thee to Myself and clear thee (of the falsehoods) of those who blaspheme; I will make those who follow thee superior to those who reject faith, to the Day of Resurrection: Then shall ye all return unto me, and I will judge between you of the matters wherein ye dispute.

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IS JESUS ALIVE?



Let me briefly answer this frequently asked question again:


Prophet Jesus died, but just like other prophets and martyrs, he was created again in the Paradise (Floor of Lord).


In other words, living in a Paradise now.

In short, not only Jesus, but all the prophets and messengers live in other Universe.

Regards.
 
What does your god offer in his afterlife?

Mune offers a place in his Mead Hall where I will greet my fallen friends and enemies.
Each day we will fight and hunt each evening we feast and drink and sing.
We are here to entertain our gods. Sometimes if we please them they reward us or use us for their sport.
This is our fate.

wyrd bið ful aræd
Fate remains wholly inexorable
 
The “floor of the Lord” doesn’t sound all that appealing. What, I’m like a tile in God’s palace?
 
Emre_1974tr said:
Our Creator.......
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Please provide evidence that there is any such thing as a creator. Testable, falsifiable evidence, mind you, not reference to some old book. You see, the universe and the earth both look exactly as they would if they were just the result of straightforward chemical and physical processes and an enormous amount of time.
 
Bikewer said:
The “floor of the Lord” doesn’t sound all that appealing. What, I’m like a tile in God’s palace?
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I was imagining He could probably afford some pretty nice carpets. In which case you might be more like a cosmic Roomba.
 
Although judging from his previous threads, I might be expecting a bit much.

Emre_1974tr said:
Dear L0rca

İf you are intelligent, you will be muslim.

You don't know evolution. İf you will learn this spiritualist beliving, you will escape from this dogma.

İf you want to be real materyalist, you must leave this. You don't know real face of this thing.

Regards.
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Emre_1974tr said:
The living creatures in the Hereafter universe (Floor of Lord) are immortal and continue their lives forever (in fixed form) without aging.
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Yes, a 104 year-old one with horrible arthritis continue lo live without ageing.

To sell your religious preach you should promise they can choose the age they want, say 25, and stay that way forever.

What about houris? Are they available forever? Are there enough to everyone?
The 104 year-old person too?
 
First, what created Our Creator, and if nothing created Him (as I suspect is the case), does that mean the fundamental level of reality is an omniscient, omnipotent Being, and it doesn't get any more fundamental than that?

Because that's not very fundamental, really. If you stop and think about it. But nobody ever stops and thinks about that, so I'm not expecting a sensible answer.

Second, how does a "timeless" Creator think? Time is change. An absence of time is an absence of change. Thought is a process. A process involves change. But without time, there is no change. Because time is change. No time, no change, no thought. Not thought, no awareness. No awareness, no Being.

I'm pretty sure you've painted yourself into a corner with the Timeless Creator schtick. A Timeless Creator is like a graven image. It can't move, or think, or anything.

But I'm equally sure you'll think your way out of it.
 
1- God is not created, for He has no beginning.

But, we have our beginning.


2- You have not realized timelessness.
 
Not to be picky, but I prefer the comfy chair of the lord. If I’m going to have an imaginary friend, I’d like it to be in a somewhat better furnished setting.
 
Emre_1974tr said:
1- God is not created, for He has no beginning.

But, we have our beginning.


2- You have not realized timelessness.
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1 - the god you're talking about was created in the years before the hegira, based on some yahve and the holly ghost, so it has beginning, and it'll eventually end up like osiris and isis did.

2- we do, have you realized time?
 
I think we're meant to read this while smoking hash from a large and ornate hookah. Only then will it make sense.
 
aleCcowaN said:
devilgod
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I like the terminology I am learning. Where does it originate from? And "devilgod" is very challenging. How would they knot that he is not, right ?:)

aleCcowaN said:
Add that to the list of questions you can't answer.
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As I understand he doesn't worry about things he can't answer. But he certainly provides ample good material to make fun of. So if he is not taking it serious then all systems are go for us too. Let's have fun with his stuff.
If I am going to his Hell anyway, I should explore every corner of it.
 
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winter salt said:
I like the terminology I am learning. Where does it originate from? And "devilgod" is very challenging. How would they knot that he is not, right ?:)
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It's my own fabricated term. It comes from when I was very young and Evangelic "molesters" knocked on my door on Saturdays to try to convert me. I said several times to them: I believe exactly in what you believe, but replace God by Devil, for instance "in the beginning Devil created the heaven and the earth, and the earth was without form, and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the spirit of Devil moved upon". They would be horrified and they would argue something that boiled down to "God = good, Devil = bad". I rather argued that if a simple change of a word (after all Devil was for me 100% the same entity God was for them) baffled them that way, the they were in the business of magic words and not real believers.

After those episodes, including one when a couple of skilful arguers came to debate with the unusually diehard sceptic, stayed two hours and a quarter and left, they would stop bothering me for some time, and later I learnt to ignore the kind of them.

But I tried here that Devil bit with no success, as it seems the criticism itself. Then I start using the "devilgod" lately to represent the theoretical unique entity which is accountable for both evil and good in our lives, but not for any progress mankind has made to aid itself and answer important questions.
 
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