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Old 4th November 2017, 07:40 AM   #361
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You are joking, the bible is lucid and has narratives, but the Quran is a half remembered, mumbling, repetitive rant. Here is a semi literate account of Jonah and the whale.


37.139 So also was Jonah among those sent (by Us).
37.140 When he ran away (like a slave from captivity) to the ship (fully) laden,
37.141 He (agreed to) cast lots, and he was condemned:
37.142 Then the big Fish did swallow him, and he had done acts worthy of blame.
37.143 Had it not been that he (repented and) glorified God,
37.144 He would certainly have remained inside the Fish till the Day of
Resurrection.
37.145 But We cast him forth on the naked shore in a state of sickness,

To be clear this story in the bible is nothing but a Jewish myth that can never have happened. So what is this brief account of the story doing in the Quran as the word of God? No whale can swallow a man except a sperm whale and nobody could survive being swallowed by a sperm whale.
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Old 4th November 2017, 07:45 AM   #362
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Originally Posted by Emre_1974tr View Post
Just the opposite.

Your fake Bibles And Torah are stolen from the Holy Book.

The Qur'an is original and contains the words of Allah.

The only real holy book of ours now is the Qur'an.

The Qur'an describes the true state of events.

For example, the Noah Flood was regional. And He punished a single nation.

My Turkish writing about this subject:

http://emre1974tr.blogspot.com.tr/20...k-topluma.html

54.1 does not say that the moon is cut in half.

54:1 The moment drew near, and the moon was split.
Ha you can't handle the FACT your religion was made up after and inspired by Judaisim and Christianity.

Abraham came before Mohammed. You blaspheme against your gods original prophet. You misrepresent and lie about your god, sinner. If he did exist he wouldn't be happy with you.
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Old 4th November 2017, 10:16 AM   #363
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Originally Posted by Scorpion View Post
You are joking, the bible is .

There are thousands of pages of detail in the hadith books, but that does not make much sense.

Your fake and missing books are also manuscripts of hadith books.

The Qur'an gives real knowledge. There is no point in writing length.

For example, hundreds of books about trinity are, wrong.

But The Quran tells the interior of the trilogy with a few sentences. Indicates that the trinity is superstition.

There are thousands of books about spirits. But the Qur'an shows that the soul is only revelation.

It also shows us that the heavens are universes.

And tells us, the Noah Flood was regional. And He punished a single nation.

The only holy book in our hand is the Quran now.

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Old 4th November 2017, 10:55 AM   #364
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Originally Posted by Hungry81 View Post
Ha you can't handle the FACT your religion was made up after and inspired by Judaisim and Christianity.

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Not me, you are liar and sinner .

What I told you?

Remember:

"I have said that Islam has existed since the first people.

Abraham, Noah, Jesus, Muhammad are all prophets of Islam. There is only one holy religion.

As people changed religion and the book, the prophet and the book were sent again from God.

The Kaaba is also the first Islamic temple in history.

Quran 3:96. "Lo! the first Sanctuary appointed for mankind was that at Mecca, a blessed place, a guidance to the peoples;"

After, People degenerated and changed the Kabe and prayer.

Through the Prophet Muhammad, the Qur'an came and Islam was once again transformed into its original form.

The Kaaba is purified from idols.

In short, as people and other beings changed their path of salvation, Islam came again. "

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And The main holy book is in the hereafter universe.

All the holy books on earth are part of it.

The Bibles and Torah in your hand are missing and fake.

But they contain quotes/stolens from the original.

The Qur'an contains the original holy book and completely real knowledge.
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Old 4th November 2017, 11:12 AM   #365
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Originally Posted by Emre_1974tr View Post
Just the opposite.

Your fake Bibles And Torah are stolen from the Holy Book.

The Qur'an is original and contains the words of Allah.

The only real holy book of ours now is the Qur'an.
I am an atheist. All of them are fake, including the Qur'an. None of them are mine.

Originally Posted by Emre_1974tr View Post
The Qur'an describes the true state of events.


Originally Posted by Emre_1974tr View Post
For example, the Noah Flood was regional. And He punished a single nation.
None of that baloney ever happened.

Originally Posted by Emre_1974tr View Post
My Turkish writing about this subject:

http://emre1974tr.blogspot.com.tr/20...k-topluma.html
Spam.

Originally Posted by Emre_1974tr View Post
54.1 does not say that the moon is cut in half.

54:1 The moment drew near, and the moon was split.
Why should I care what your Bumper Book of Fairy Tales says?
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Old 4th November 2017, 12:13 PM   #366
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Originally Posted by Emre_1974tr View Post
blather repeated endlessly in these threads...
Indicates that the trinity is superstition.
...followed by more repetitious blather
ALL religion is superstition. Including yours.
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Old 4th November 2017, 12:18 PM   #367
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Originally Posted by Emre_1974tr View Post
"I have said that Islam has existed since the first people.
And the verifiable documentation for that would be . . . .

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The Kaaba is also the first Islamic temple in history.
The Kaaba is the first pagan temple re-purposed for Islam.
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Old 4th November 2017, 12:21 PM   #368
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Originally Posted by Hungry81 View Post
Ha you can't handle the FACT your religion was made up after and inspired by Judaisim and Christianity.

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Not to mention Arab myths. There is a brief mention of a previous prophet called Salih that brought a magic camel to life. Like most of the stories mentioned in the Quran it does not explain the story in detail it just refers to it.
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Old 4th November 2017, 02:19 PM   #369
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The Qur'an tells you what to know about the life story of the Salih Prophet.

There are very long details in the hadith books but humans make up the writing.

The Qur'an tells the truth only.

For example, the actual expression of how prayer is made is only in the Qur'an.

Prayer is also narrated in hadith books, but with many additions and fittings.

The expression in the Qur'an is real.

The Qur'an is much shorter and more self-evident than just telling the truth

Because joints do not contain additives.

It only gives the words of Allah, the truth.
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Old 4th November 2017, 02:54 PM   #370
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Originally Posted by Emre_1974tr View Post
It only gives the words of Allah, the truth.
Say that again. One more time. With feeling.
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Old 4th November 2017, 03:14 PM   #371
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Originally Posted by Emre_1974tr View Post
Not me, you are liar and sinner .

What I told you?

Remember:

"I have said that Islam has existed since the first people.

Abraham, Noah, Jesus, Muhammad are all prophets of Islam. There is only one holy religion.

As people changed religion and the book, the prophet and the book were sent again from God.

The Kaaba is also the first Islamic temple in history.

Quran 3:96. "Lo! the first Sanctuary appointed for mankind was that at Mecca, a blessed place, a guidance to the peoples;"

After, People degenerated and changed the Kabe and prayer.

Through the Prophet Muhammad, the Qur'an came and Islam was once again transformed into its original form.

The Kaaba is purified from idols.

In short, as people and other beings changed their path of salvation, Islam came again. "

****************

And The main holy book is in the hereafter universe.

All the holy books on earth are part of it.

The Bibles and Torah in your hand are missing and fake.

But they contain quotes/stolens from the original.

The Qur'an contains the original holy book and completely real knowledge.
Nice. So not only are you calling your first prophet Abraham a liar, but you blaspheme against your god by claiming it is too weak, inept or stupid to prevent its word being manipulated and repurposed multiple times for hundreds of years until good old Mohammad happened along. But your incompetent weak god couldn't even get it right then, because islam splintered into many different versions and muslems started killing each other for following the wrong islam. So then your weak and useless god had to wait hundreds more years for Emre to come along and set the record straight. But even then your god was so weak useless and incompetent that he couldn't even help you convince people that your version of Islam is the one true religion that has always existed and everyone else including other Muslims are wrong because you say so. Sounds to me you think you know better than your god.


As I said before, how infantile.

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Old 4th November 2017, 04:19 PM   #372
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6- …He creates you, in the wombs of your mothers, in stages,
one after the other, in three darknesses…
(39- The Throngs, 6)

http://www.quranmiracles.com/2011/03...ee-darknesses/
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Old 4th November 2017, 04:35 PM   #373
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Originally Posted by Emre_1974tr View Post
6- …He creates you, in the wombs of your mothers, in stages,
one after the other, in three darknesses…
(39- The Throngs, 6)

http://www.quranmiracles.com/2011/03...ee-darknesses/

Lifted from your link:

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The fetus in the mother’s womb is a fragile thing. If it were not protected well, heat, cold, temperature variations, impacts or even the mother’s sudden movement might kill it or cause it irreparable damage.

Yes indeed a fragile thing. So fragile that a very large number of miscarriages are commonplace. Many miscarriages happen without the mother being aware she had one. One would think God/Allah would have made a better job when designing a woman's reproductive equipment. Or is there some reason for this apparent flaw?
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Old 4th November 2017, 04:44 PM   #374
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This world is not paradise. A mixture of paradise and hell.

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Old 4th November 2017, 07:02 PM   #375
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Paradise and hell are human fictions. Like Oz, Shangri-La, Xanadu, Asgard . . .
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Old 5th November 2017, 02:31 AM   #376
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Xanadu? But there have been at least three top ten hits about Xanadu, not to mention an epic poem.
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Old 5th November 2017, 03:23 AM   #377
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Xanadu? But there have been at least three top ten hits about Xanadu, not to mention an epic poem.
And a rather bad documentary...

https://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/xanadu-1980
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And a rather bad documentary...

https://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/xanadu-1980
There are conflicting reports on it's environment though.

According to Coleridge it was 'A stately pleasure-dome' but according to Dave Dee, Dozy, Beaky, Mick and Titch it was a black, barren land.

Anyway, Bill Gates lives there.
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Old 5th November 2017, 06:15 AM   #379
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Originally Posted by Emre_1974tr View Post
The Qur'an tells you what to know about the life story of the Salih Prophet.

There are very long details in the hadith books but humans make up the writing.

The Qur'an tells the truth only.
The story of Salih in the Quran lacks all the details that make the story understandable . It does not say anywhere that Salih hit a rock and the magic camel came out of the rock. For that you have to read the hadiths.

It is exactly the same as the story of Joseph in surah 12 which also leaves out details of the story that make it comprehensible.

In short if God wrote the Quran he is a semi literate moron.
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Originally Posted by Emre_1974tr View Post

The Qur'an is much shorter and more self-evident than just telling the truth

Because joints do not contain additives.

It only gives the words of Allah, the truth.
The Quran is far longer than it needs to be because it repeats itself many times over. If you took out all the repeats you could cut the Quran down by a half. Does God have to keep repeating himself? or is it that Muhammad just rambled on and on for over twenty years, and he forgot what he had said before.
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Xanadu? But there have been at least three top ten hits about Xanadu, not to mention an epic poem.
And a Gene Kelly movie.
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Given the thread title, I wonder why we have a dearth of miracles. "The miracles continue..." Do they? No. Not even started.
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The story of Salih

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The Qur'an gives only the truth about the life of the Prophet. It does not contain the attachments in your hadith books.

There is nothing to be understood. I have all the necessary details.

The people of the Salih Prophet are confronted with the evil in them one last time.

An accelerated examination.

It's like a Saturday ban.

Only the Qur'an tells these events perfectly.

Even the sum of your books can not give that much detail.

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.. according to Dave Dee, Dozy, Beaky, Mick and Titch it was a black, barren land.
I recognize only The Fall.
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8- When the stars are put out.
(77- The Emissaries, 8 )

2- When the planets are scattered.
(82- The Shattering, 2)

1- When the sun is rolled.
(81- The Rolling, 1)

7- And verily the Hour is coming, no doubt about it,
and that God will resurrect those who are dead.
(22- The Pilgrimage, 7)

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Originally Posted by Emre_1974tr View Post
8- When the stars are put out.
That won't be for trillions of years.

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2- When the planets are scattered.
Could happen when the Andromeda galaxy collides with the Milky Way, but that's billions of years off.

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1- When the sun is rolled.
That"s utterly meaningless.

So nothing to worry about for at least a few billion years then.

Good to know.
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That won't be for trillions of years.

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No, It will be sooner.
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That won't be for trillions of years.

Emre:
No, It will be sooner.


Would you settle for only a few tens of billions? (Actually, trying to put discrete numbers on such an event - process, really rather than an event - is a fool's errand. Thinking that some vague comment from a pre-medieval nomad has any relevance is even more foolish still.)
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What is this thread actually about?

And why am I still wasting time following it?
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No, It will be sooner.
No, it won't.

I have mountains of objective evidence to support that assertion. You have an old, ugly book which contains numerous provably false statements to support yours. I'll stick with mine.
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It will be very very sooner.
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It will be very very sooner.
Huh? Are you aware that this collection of English words configured in this way means absolutely nothing at all?
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It will be very very sooner.
Millions of people have been utterly convinced that the world would end in their lifetime in the last couple of thousand years, yet the world's still here. You are not going to be the first of those millions to be proved right.
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What is this thread actually about?

And why am I still wasting time following it?
When a poodle and a sausage dog get into a starfish sniffing contest it's irresistible!
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2:140 "Or do you say that Abraham and Ishmael and Isaac and Jacob and the Patriarchs were all Jewish or Nazarene?" Say, "Are you more knowledgeable or is God?" Who is more wicked than one who conceals a testimony with him from God? God is not oblivious of what you do.

2:135 And they said: "Be Jewish or Nazarenes so that you may be guided!" Say: "No, rather the creed of Abraham, monotheism; for he was not of the polytheists."

3:67 Abraham was neither a Jew nor a Nazarene, but he was a monotheist who peacefully surrendered; he was not of those who set up partners.

2:125 We have made the sanctuary to be a model for the people and a security. Utilize the place of Abraham to reach out. We had entrusted to Abraham and Ishmael, "You shall purify My sanctuary for those who visit, those who are devoted, and for those who kneel and prostrate."
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It will be very very sooner.
Do I have time to play the Powerball?
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75- So, I swear by the place where the stars fall.(56- The Inevitable, 75)
76- And that is indeed a mighty oath, if you but knew.(56- The Inevitable, 76)

http://www.quranmiracles.com/2011/03...esmighty-oath/

1- By the heavens and The Knocker.(86- The Knocker, 1)

2- How will you comprehend what the The Knocker is? (86- The Knocker, 2)

3- It is a piercing star.(86- The Knocker, 3)

http://www.quranmiracles.com/2011/03/pulsars/
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How will you comprehend what the The Knocker is?
That was Teri Garr in Young Frankenstein.
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That was Teri Garr in Young Frankenstein.
Knocker, Not knockers.
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8- When the stars are put out.
(77- The Emissaries, 8 )

2- When the planets are scattered.
(82- The Shattering, 2)

1- When the sun is rolled.
(81- The Rolling, 1)

7- And verily the Hour is coming, no doubt about it,
and that God will resurrect those who are dead.
(22- The Pilgrimage, 7)

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That's Koo koo for Coco Puffs. I've watched the crazy Christians predict that the rapture is coming soon my entire life. They've actually been predicting the apocalypse for 1600 years. You're all god damn crazy. Give up those silly stupid superstitions and stop being obsessed with the end times. Isn't it better to make the best of this life than to prepare for death of the world?

Eschatological nonsense.
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