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Old 22nd November 2017, 04:42 AM   #1
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Man plans to launch himself in a home-made rocket....

To prove that the Earth is flat.

According to the Washington Post article:

“Seeking to prove that a conspiracy of astronauts fabricated the shape of the Earth, a California man intends to launch himself 1,800 feet high on Saturday in a rocket he built from scrap metal.

Assuming the 500-mph, mile-long flight through the Mojave Desert does not kill him, Mike Hughes told the Associated Press, his journey into the atmosflat will mark the first phase of his ambitious flat-Earth space program.”

Apparently this self-taught rocket scientist plans a steam-powered rocked ala’ Evel Knievel, and a first flight of only a few miles...

Sure hope he gets it all on YouTube.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/video...=.3ca8057beeba

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Old 22nd November 2017, 04:47 AM   #2
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Originally Posted by Bikewer View Post
To prove that the Earth is flat.

According to the Washington Post article:

“Seeking to prove that a conspiracy of astronauts fabricated the shape of the Earth, a California man intends to launch himself 1,800 feet high on Saturday in a rocket he built from scrap metal.

Assuming the 500-mph, mile-long flight through the Mojave Desert does not kill him, Mike Hughes told the Associated Press, his journey into the atmosflat will mark the first phase of his ambitious flat-Earth space program.”

Apparently this self-taught rocket scientist plans a steam-powered rocked ala’ Evel Knievel, and a first flight of only a few miles...

Sure hope he gets it all on YouTube.
1,800 feet? I'm wondering why he can't just book a flight and achieve a much higher ceiling at a lot less risk and cost. Why not a balloon flight if 1,800 feet is crucial?

ETA - Ah I see that this particular flight is just a step along the way of proving the Earth is flat. Should have read the OP fully!

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Old 22nd November 2017, 05:23 AM   #3
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In broad principle we ought to applaud this. This is the very essence of science. You don't have to take anyone's word for it; you can do the experiment yourself.

On the other hand, the 'experiment' he's designing is ludicrous, massively more dangerous and expensive than it needs to be and is just going to get him killed.
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Old 22nd November 2017, 05:26 AM   #4
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Anyway, the balloonists are part of the conspiracy, open your eyes man!

Anyone know the guy's domestic situation? Is he going to qualify for a Darwin Award?
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Old 22nd November 2017, 05:42 AM   #5
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Originally Posted by P.J. Denyer View Post
Anyway, the balloonists are part of the conspiracy, open your eyes man!

Anyone know the guy's domestic situation? Is he going to qualify for a Darwin Award?
He certainly looks like he is a contender.
  • He is a "self taught" scientist.
  • His role model is Evel Knievil.
  • He states "I don't believe in science."
  • He's going to run for California governor at some point in the future.
  • He goes by the self penned moniker Mad Mike Hughes.

And lets not forget, he rejects the consensus that the earth is spherical.
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Old 22nd November 2017, 05:47 AM   #6
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Why not just go up a big hill?
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Old 22nd November 2017, 05:51 AM   #7
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If this guy “doesn’t believe in science” what’s he using to build his rocket with? Witchcraft?
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Old 22nd November 2017, 05:56 AM   #8
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Originally Posted by Jack by the hedge View Post
In broad principle we ought to applaud this. This is the very essence of science. You don't have to take anyone's word for it; you can do the experiment yourself.

On the other hand, the 'experiment' he's designing is ludicrous, massively more dangerous and expensive than it needs to be and is just going to get him killed.
He doesn't believe in science:
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“I don’t believe in science,” said Hughes, whose main sponsor for the rocket is Research Flat Earth. “I know about aerodynamics and fluid dynamics and how things move through the air, about the certain size of rocket nozzles, and thrust. But that’s not science, that’s just a formula. There’s no difference between science and science fiction.”
Quite where he thinks the formulae come from is anyone's guess... fairies maybe.
Needs to work on them landings too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3feaiPcv6yE

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Old 22nd November 2017, 06:09 AM   #9
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Who needs science when you have good old common sense.
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Old 22nd November 2017, 06:23 AM   #10
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Originally Posted by skbuncks View Post
He doesn't believe in science:


Quite where he thinks the formulae come from is anyone's guess... fairies maybe.
Needs to work on them landings too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3feaiPcv6yE
So he doesn't believe in science but he believes in what science stands for... so it's just the word that he finds icky?
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Old 22nd November 2017, 06:30 AM   #11
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Originally Posted by bluesjnr View Post
His role model is Evel Knievil.
I think that's backwards, I read a quote from him saying he didn't like Knievil.

There's that dark part of me that enjoys watching things like this go terribly wrong, but at the same time I certainly don't want anyone to get hurt... I'd say good luck but really that has problems too, since if it goes too well it might encourage other even more dangerous foolishness. I guess on balance the best thing I can hope for is that it goes well but is unimpressive.
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Old 22nd November 2017, 07:26 AM   #12
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What is he hoping to see from 1,800 feet that will prove the Earth is flat?
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Old 22nd November 2017, 07:28 AM   #13
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What is he hoping to see from 1,800 feet that will prove the Earth is flat?
Australia.

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Old 22nd November 2017, 07:37 AM   #14
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How far can you see from 1800 feet up - assuming you're on flat ground like in the plains?
30 miles?
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Old 22nd November 2017, 07:46 AM   #15
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just over 50 in perfect conditions.

(including various assumptions about sea level, earth is a perfect sphere etc.)
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...-earth-is-flat

The story is much more revealing, I think.

He was having trouble raising money for his rocketry projects.

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Hughes only recently converted to flat-Eartherism, after struggling for months to raise funds for his follow-up flight over the Mojave.
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It's all very well getting to 1800 feet, But how is he going to get down again?
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Old 22nd November 2017, 07:51 AM   #18
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Originally Posted by TheSupermeerkat View Post
If this guy “doesn’t believe in science” what’s he using to build his rocket with? Witchcraft?
It's funny he says he doesn't believe in science while planning experiments to test his hypothesis.
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just over 50 in perfect conditions.

(including various assumptions about sea level, earth is a perfect sphere etc.)
Well there's your problem.

You know, I bet I could get a really good view from up there if it turns out that we're actually living on the inside surface of the hollow earth...
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It's all very well getting to 1800 feet, But how is he going to get down again?
Why not just drive to Denver, or hike up the nearest mountain, or maybe even visit the top of the new World Trade Center building? Or any of the many very tall buildings available world wide?

There are far less risky ways to look at the Earth from a high point other than a home made rocket.
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1,800 feet? I'm wondering why he can't just book a flight and achieve a much higher ceiling at a lot less risk and cost. Why not a balloon flight if 1,800 feet is crucial?

ETA - Ah I see that this particular flight is just a step along the way of proving the Earth is flat. Should have read the OP fully!
Because the airlines are in on it, silly! Of course the windows on a commercial aircraft will distort the view leaving the impression of a round earth. No. The only way to definitively prove is if the inquisitor owns the entire process from beginning to end.

Yes, I'm intentionally ignoring the open air nature and elevation that balloons attain because it doesn't fit my narrative.
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Old 22nd November 2017, 08:24 AM   #22
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He says nobody has gone to the moon and all astronauts are just paid actors.

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“John Glenn and Neil Armstrong are Freemasons,” Hughes agreed. “Once you understand that, you understand the roots of the deception.”
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All he has to do is get himself a pair of binoculars, then check when the space station is due to pass overhead, and he can see it for himself.
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He says nobody has gone to the moon and all astronauts are just paid actors.
Well, if they're freemasons, no need for further evidence!
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Old 22nd November 2017, 09:11 AM   #25
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My theory is that he doesn't believe most of what he says and instead is acting the role of a nutso for purposes of self-promotion and fundraising. His donations to GoFundMe were extremely meager until he injected the flat earth idea.
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I thought it might be a shrewd pitch for a crowfunding campaign he never intends to follow through on.
But apparently he's already paid for everything, and he's planning on launching himself next weekend...

The man's a complete idiot.

ETA: I couldn't find his GoFundMe, do you have a link WP?

He might be an only moderately insane scam artist after all...

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If he can get himself above the atmosphere, he can prove rockets need air to push against.
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It's all very well getting to 1800 feet, But how is he going to get down again?

Gravity.
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Gravity.
Ugh. You sphereheads and your "gravity". It's a MYTH! Obviously. But the earth is accelerating upwards, so we'll catch up to him after a minute giving the appearance of him falling.
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I've not noticed a post on this yet, but Mike Hughes is going to be powering himself into space this weekend (25 Nov 2017).

Should be a laugh. The link is informative

First up, steam powered rocket??

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It's all very well getting to 1800 feet, But how is he going to get down again?
That bit is easier than the getting up.

It will also be the most interesting bit of the project from an observers point of view.
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"I Don't believe in science".


Well, duh.
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You didn't look very far:

http://www.internationalskeptics.com...php?p=12087275
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What is he hoping to see from 1,800 feet that will prove the Earth is flat?

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You're right, my bad. Long night.
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You're right, my bad. Long night.
Disinfo. The world is flat so there's no such thing as day and night cycles.
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Disinfo. The world is flat so there's no such thing as day and night cycles.
Yeah, well maybe you're an agent provocateur trying to establish credibility so you can sabotage us later.
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Yeah, well maybe you're an agent provocateur trying to establish credibility so you can sabotage us later.
I'm not allowed to comment further.
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Is he going to qualify for a Darwin Award?

He will if his trajectory takes him over the edge.
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He certainly looks like he is a contender.
  • He is a "self taught" scientist.
  • His role model is Evel Knievil.
  • He states "I don't believe in science."
  • He's going to run for California governor at some point in the future.
  • He goes by the self penned moniker Mad Mike Hughes.

And lets not forget, he rejects the consensus that the earth is spherical.
But does he compare himself to Einstein? Favorably?
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