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Old 28th November 2017, 04:33 AM   #1
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"Stone Circles and Grid Gardens"

Mod InfoThis thread is split from Help Debunking Nazca Lines Linked With Angkor Wat.
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Another thing that makes me wince is the term 'sacred geometry'. This too crops up at regular intervals on GH!
How do you feel about the term "grid gardens"...?
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Old 28th November 2017, 05:09 AM   #2
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Originally Posted by King of the Americas View Post
How do you feel about the term "grid gardens"...?
I can't see it - even with magnification, I can only perceive a vague outline. But do you think that, even if I could see it, I would believe it - being a thorough-going sceptic!!!
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Old 28th November 2017, 05:16 AM   #3
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Originally Posted by SusanB-M1 View Post
I can't see it - even with magnification, I can only perceive a vague outline. But do you think that, even if I could see it, I would believe it - being a thorough-going sceptic!!!
Yeah, I know, skeptics can't see stuff they don't believe in...
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Old 28th November 2017, 05:20 AM   #4
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You've posted that picture before. They are modern day farms in Texas.
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So, I claimed I found evidence of a global agricultural society. I combed the world finding evidence everywhere I looked. But the places I founder too remote to visit and or test.

However, I did claim they were everywhere...so I searched my home county in Texas.

I found them here too!

I'm going out to visit a site today.

What does that have to do with this thread?
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Originally Posted by Porpoise of Life View Post
You've posted that picture before. They are modern day farms in Texas.



What does that have to do with this thread?
No...it is a modern occupied grid garden.

Angkor Wat IS a grid garden:
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Old 28th November 2017, 06:08 AM   #6
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East of Angkor Wat is this:

Each square has approximately 8100 trees.
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Originally Posted by King of the Americas View Post
East of Angkor Wat is this:

Each square has approximately 8100 trees.
Places where they do something with agriculture? Quite possibly rubber plantations?

What do you think they are?
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Old 28th November 2017, 06:27 AM   #8
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Some light Googling shows that that part of Cambodia has huge cashew plantations.
A crop imported from South America from the late 16th century onward, so by neccessity not an ancient plantation.

Perhaps KotA should start a new thread to discuss his assertion that every grid pattern in the world is evidence of Atlantis, because that's not what this thread is about.
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Places where they do something with agriculture? Quite possibly rubber plantations?

What do you think they are?
"Grid gardens"...like the surrounding ones, like the ones in Cooke County Texas, the ones hidden away in the Himalayas, the ones on remote Pacific islands, the ones I first found in the South American deserts, the ones on the tiny north islands of England, the ones that are found in EVERY place that has, or could support massive agricultural efforts.

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Where do you live near, and I'll find one you can investigate for yourself?
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Originally Posted by King of the Americas View Post
...... the ones on the tiny north islands of England.......
Can you be specific about this. This isn't a description that any Englishman would recognise. North of England is Scotland, not any islands. How about actual island names, or lat/ long references, or Ordinance Survey grid references.
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Originally Posted by Porpoise of Life View Post
Some light Googling shows that that part of Cambodia has huge cashew plantations.
A crop imported from South America from the late 16th century onward, so by neccessity not an ancient plantation.

Perhaps KotA should start a new thread to discuss his assertion that every grid pattern in the world is evidence of Atlantis, because that's not what this thread is about.
They have canopy's 20 feet wide.

...and...you should examine the top left one more carefully.

So far, I have found ONE tiny path leading to it. A closer examination of it reveals the roads passing through it to be washed out, and or dead ended. The borders have been consumed by the invading forest, and the lower half is dead or severely stunted in growth.

There ARE buildings...but no tracks, and overgrown dead ends.

It looks abandoned and forgotten.
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Can you be specific about this. This isn't a description that any Englishman would recognise. North of England is Scotland, not any islands. How about actual island names, or lat/ long references, or Ordinance Survey grid references.
I was talk about the place with a Broch on it....

Mousa maybe?

But like I said, pick a place near you, and I'll give you a place to investigate!
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Originally Posted by Porpoise of Life View Post
Some light Googling shows that that part of Cambodia has huge cashew plantations.
A crop imported from South America from the late 16th century onward, so by neccessity not an ancient plantation.

Perhaps KotA should start a new thread to discuss his assertion that every grid pattern in the world is evidence of Atlantis, because that's not what this thread is about.
Before using "they are clearly XYZ" do you have the least bit of interest in investigating the actual location?

This thread is about the claimed connection between Nazca and AW...there IS a connection...both places have grid gardens.

You make WEAK TEA buddy.
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Originally Posted by King of the Americas View Post
"Grid gardens"...like the surrounding ones, like the ones in Cooke County Texas, the ones hidden away in the Himalayas, the ones on remote Pacific islands, the ones I first found in the South American deserts, the ones on the tiny north islands of England, the ones that are found in EVERY place that has, or could support massive agricultural efforts.

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Where do you live near, and I'll find one you can investigate for yourself?
I don't understand what is so special with this. Agriculture places, with boundaries between lots/owners do tend to result in a grid like pattern, environment willing.

Like in this link. What is so special about it?
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I don't understand what is so special with this. Agriculture places, with boundaries between lots/owners do tend to result in a grid like pattern, environment willing.

Like in this link. What is so special about it?
Yup, that pattern is found ALL OVER THE WORLD.

THE SAME SIZE AND SHAPE TOO!

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Yes. Nowadays.
Your assertion that this pattern is the product of an advanced ancient civilisation is completely unsupported, and not the topic of this thread.
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Yes. Nowadays.
Your assertion that this pattern is the product of an advanced ancient civilisation is completely unsupported, and not the topic of this thread.
For this thread, the posting of that pattern is merely an assertion that the two sites herein discussed ARE CONNECTED.

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How is a plantation 80 miles from an ancient site in Cambodia connected to another ancient site in Peru, exactly?
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Originally Posted by King of the Americas View Post
Yup, that pattern is found ALL OVER THE WORLD.

THE SAME SIZE AND SHAPE TOO!
Like the one in my link as well?

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How else would people demarcate their plantations/whatever?
To demarcate your personal plot for agriculture, you either follow natural boundaries (like rivers) or you make them rectangular, if the surroundings permet a shape like that.
That is efficient and easier for planting crops.

The fields in my link aren't that old, maybe 400 years or so. If you look a bit to the south east from the fields in my link you see fields which date from (late)medieval times. Those are a lot narrower.
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perhaps we can distract KOTA by suggesting that he takes a look at Jude Currivan's work and videos. She has been the Author of the Month on the Graham Hancock forum. I tend to skip past KOTA's posts here, so I am not sure whether this would be within his range of interests.
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Originally Posted by King of the Americas View Post
I was talk about the place with a Broch on it....

Mousa maybe?.....
Don't make stuff up. Be specific. Where were you talking about?
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Originally Posted by King of the Americas View Post
Yeah, I know, skeptics can't see stuff they don't believe in...
FYI, SusanB-M1 is visually impaired, so when she said she only saw a vague outline it had nothing to do with skepticism.
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Originally Posted by erwinl View Post
Like the one in my link as well?

Edit:
How else would people demarcate their plantations/whatever?
To demarcate your personal plot for agriculture, you either follow natural boundaries (like rivers) or you make them rectangular, if the surroundings permet a shape like that.
That is efficient and easier for planting crops.

The fields in my link aren't that old, maybe 400 years or so. If you look a bit to the south east from the fields in my link you see fields which date from (late)medieval times. Those are a lot narrower.
Aren't those lots not simply delineated by the drainage canals that were dug in the Middle Ages to make the soil dry and fit for agriculture?
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Aren't those lots not simply delineated by the drainage canals that were dug in the Middle Ages to make the soil dry and fit for agriculture?
Indeed, they are. Although dry is a relative term. The water table is very high in that area.
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How is a plantation 80 miles from an ancient site in Cambodia connected to another ancient site in Peru, exactly?
The trees planted in these separate areas were done by people who knew each other, evident in the size and shape of the grids...
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Like the one in my link as well?

Edit:
How else would people demarcate their plantations/whatever?
To demarcate your personal plot for agriculture, you either follow natural boundaries (like rivers) or you make them rectangular, if the surroundings permet a shape like that.
That is efficient and easier for planting crops.

The fields in my link aren't that old, maybe 400 years or so. If you look a bit to the south east from the fields in my link you see fields which date from (late)medieval times. Those are a lot narrower.
Circles?
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Don't make stuff up. Be specific. Where were you talking about?
It's called "Mousa Broch."
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Circles?
WTF has that got to do with irwinl's post you quoted?
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It's called "Mousa Broch."
Great. That is one of many brochs in Scotland, which is not an island. So your question didn't even make sense. Now, what point were you trying to make?
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The trees planted in these separate areas were done by people who knew each other, evident in the size and shape of the grids...
Which areas? You've only shown trees in Cambodia (nowhere near Angkor Wat by the way), and nothing similar anywhere near Nazca.

So we have a 'grid garden' that isn't connected to the relatively nearby site, and nothing to connect it to the other site.
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The trees planted in these separate areas were done by people who knew each other, evident in the size and shape of the grids...
Are you talking about people knowing each other between Angkor Wat and the place 80 miles east of it or Angkor Wat and Nazca?


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Yup, that pattern is found ALL OVER THE WORLD.

THE SAME SIZE AND SHAPE TOO!
Can you please expound on what "THE SAME SIZE AND SHAPE" means. That every single 'grid garden' you've found has the same length and breadth? The same area? How much leeway are you allowing?

Provide the co-ords of these 'grid gardens' and I bet we'll quickly find that they are in fact a wild range of shapes and sizes from squares to long rectangles with a wide range of widths, lengths and areas.

You keep asserting that they are all the the same size, but you've provide exactly zero evidence to back it up which makes it obvious that it is simply another of your fact free assertions. You won't provide your reasoning or research because there is none, you're just declaring it as fact like you do everything else.
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Can you please expound on what "THE SAME SIZE AND SHAPE" means. That every single 'grid garden' you've found has the same length and breadth? The same area? How much leeway are you allowing?

Provide the co-ords of these 'grid gardens' and I bet we'll quickly find that they are in fact a wild range of shapes and sizes from squares to long rectangles with a wide range of widths, lengths and areas.

You keep asserting that they are all the the same size, but you've provide exactly zero evidence to back it up which makes it obvious that it is simply another of your fact free assertions. You won't provide your reasoning or research because there is none, you're just declaring it as fact like you do everything else.

Right...I'm not sure yet.

I've posted about this already.
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Are you talking about people knowing each other between Angkor Wat and the place 80 miles east of it or Angkor Wat and Nazca?

No. Cambodia and Peru.
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Great. That is one of many brochs in Scotland, which is not an island. So your question didn't even make sense. Now, what point were you trying to make?
There are grid gardens on that island...
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WTF has that got to do with irwinl's post you quoted?
He claimed rectangles were the only way to remark you land other than rivers...

Clearly, this is not the case.
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Which areas? You've only shown trees in Cambodia (nowhere near Angkor Wat by the way), and nothing similar anywhere near Nazca.

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BWAAAA HAAAAA HAAAA...!
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Lots of bluster and distraction, still not one iota of evidence.
Bwa ha indeed
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Right...I'm not sure yet.

I've posted about this already.
You're not sure whether or not the grid gardens are in fact all the same size and shape?

So why have you been repeatedly, IN ALL CAPS, asserting that they are all the same size and shape?

Why would you repeatedly declare such a thing to be true if you hadn't actually done the necessary research to see if it's true? There's no excuse. You can use Google Earth Pro (a free application) to measure distances and areas.

Well?
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Originally Posted by King of the Americas View Post
He claimed rectangles were the only way to remark you land other than rivers...

Clearly, this is not the case.
If you look at your example of New Mexico, you see indeed round shapes.
Round shapes because this is more convenient with the type of irrigation they use there in a relatively arid environment.
If you look more closely though you see that the round fields are in rectangular plots. Which are more convenient for demarcating ownership of said plots.

But. What is it yoy're trying to tell? I truly don't see anything special in rectangular fields for agriculture.
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