The most racist Trump appointee yet?

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Trump appointee Carl Higbie resigns as public face of agency that runs AmeriCorps after KFile review of racist, sexist, anti-Muslim and anti-LGBT comments on the radio

said "the black race" had "lax" morals. He added that black women think "breeding is a form of government employment."

"The whole African-American thing gets me whipped up because it's like 99% -- and I'm paraphrasing here -- of people who write down African-American have never been to Africa," Higbie said. "So barring dual citizenship, you're American or you're African, but you're not both. I don't care what you think. That's another thing that just sets me off."

"Go back to your Muslim ******** and go crap in your hands and bang little boys on Thursday nights," Higbie said. "I just don't like Muslim people. People always rip me a new one for that. Carl, you're racist, you can't, you're sexist. I'm like Jesus Christ. I just don't like Muslim people because their ideology sucks."

But severe PTSD, where guys are bugging out and doing violent acts, is a trait of a weak mind.

"What's so wrong with wanting to put up a fence and saying, 'hey, everybody with a gun, if you want to go shoot people coming across our border illegally, you can do it fo' free,'"

If you have taken any benefit, if you have elected to take any benefit from the government at any given time during any election cycle, you do not get to vote at the subsequent election,"


Well then....:jaw-dropp
 
Holy, ****. I now live again in the DC metro area. There are companies here with skilled employees who will vet people for you. What kind of rank stupidity is required to hire a guy like this. I could walk 100 meters in any direction from my new place and find a firm that will look at this kind of thing for you for a nominal fee. Only half my problem is that The Hair's administration hires these people. The other half of my problem is that there is an entire industry in this town waiting to help you avoid these things. It's like they don't want to be saved from themselves.
 
The CNN article starts with a warning:
WARNING: This story contains graphic language.
That's gotta be the understatement of the year. I couldn't find a sentence without graphic language.

Oh, and you left out the homophobic and the birther stuff. And his compliments about Feinstein and Pelosi:
Her and Pelosi. I'd love to just take both their heads and smack them together a couple of times."

Interestingly, his wiki page says:
and regularly appears as a commentator on Fox News and CNN.
:jaw-dropp as well as:
In August 2017 Higbie was selected to serve as the Chief of External Affairs for the Corporation for National and Community Service, but resigned in January 2018 after racist, sexist, anti-Muslim and anti-LGBT comments of his came to light.
How did this take five months for the media to pick up? Oh, he was also a member of the Orange Turd transition team.
 
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Holy, ****. I now live again in the DC metro area. There are companies here with skilled employees who will vet people for you. What kind of rank stupidity is required to hire a guy like this. I could walk 100 meters in any direction from my new place and find a firm that will look at this kind of thing for you for a nominal fee. Only half my problem is that The Hair's administration hires these people. The other half of my problem is that there is an entire industry in this town waiting to help you avoid these things. It's like they don't want to be saved from themselves.

I think spouting such language is a good thing in the eyes of the current administration..
 
Holy, ****. I now live again in the DC metro area. There are companies here with skilled employees who will vet people for you. What kind of rank stupidity is required to hire a guy like this. I could walk 100 meters in any direction from my new place and find a firm that will look at this kind of thing for you for a nominal fee. Only half my problem is that The Hair's administration hires these people. The other half of my problem is that there is an entire industry in this town waiting to help you avoid these things. It's like they don't want to be saved from themselves.

You misunderstand the purpose of Trump administration vetting. This guy is what they are looking for.
 
I just read all of his comments. This is, amazingly, beyond shocking. I thought I had become numb to anything someone related to this administration could say. I was wrong. Really wrong. Absolutely, 100% shocking. I need time to even process what this guy said. Wow. Just, wow.
 
Holy, ****. I now live again in the DC metro area. There are companies here with skilled employees who will vet people for you. What kind of rank stupidity is required to hire a guy like this. I could walk 100 meters in any direction from my new place and find a firm that will look at this kind of thing for you for a nominal fee. Only half my problem is that The Hair's administration hires these people. The other half of my problem is that there is an entire industry in this town waiting to help you avoid these things. It's like they don't want to be saved from themselves.

Well...

The President doesn't, or at least shouldn't, need outside help for that sort of vetting. Or at least, he (or she, but really...he) should have that in place for every nominee, and should have had it in place before accepting the GOP nomination - doing oppo research on yourself and your own allies and potential nominees is a very basic step that even local campaigns usually do. It's been clear for long time that Dolt 45 never took that basic step, though, for either the president himself or for anyone they nominated.
 
A real piece of work this guy. At one stage my wife and I were out of work (she through choice, me through retrenchment). We had six kids then and were even receiving welfare.

I didn't realise I was black......
 
Her and Pelosi. I'd love to just take both their heads and smack them together a couple of times."

I guess I'm a bad person but I could get behind this.
 
Trump's AmeriCorp? There's certainly some symbolism there.

That's the part that makes me genuinely angry. I've spend about 15 years of my career working with Americorps kids, as interns and in labor corps, mostly through the Public Lands Corps program.

And they were nearly all really, really good. I made the labor corps work very hard in difficult situations. If I did my part right, they would work insanely hard, get scads of work done, and have fun doing it - the rougher the situation, the more fun it could be (we called it "The Joy of Suffering"). The interns were top notch, idealistic and very skilled. I was never in Americorps, but I feel like I owe a big part my career success to it.

And Trump put this Nazi Commando in charge of it?

I was one of those people who thought that there was some chance the Trump could moderate, could break the political molds and set new paths. I had some hope that his political inexperience could just maybe have some value, given that both major parties are deeply unpopular and are glued to rigid, calcified positions that are usually at odds with general public opinion. I didn't vote for him, but I at least thought there was a chance (however slight) he might turn out to be decent.

That sure didn't happen. He's at least as bad as Nixon, if not worse, and you've got to go back to the 19th century to find any that were worse than Nixon.
 
Okay this guy is gone (for now). But someone... probably multiple someones must have recommended him for his role in the campaign, then suggested him to powerful people in the White House for appointment to his recently ended position. Many of them must have known of his views-probably endorsed them. Where are those people? What policies are they currently influencing and who else are they recommending for important positions in the administration?
 
Okay this guy is gone (for now). But someone... probably multiple someones must have recommended him for his role in the campaign, then suggested him to powerful people in the White House for appointment to his recently ended position. Many of them must have known of his views-probably endorsed them. Where are those people? What policies are they currently influencing and who else are they recommending for important positions in the administration?

Well, there's one person who signed up, among other obvious bigots, Jeff Sessions, Seb Gorka, Steve Bannon, and Stephen Miller. That there was yet another bigot in this administration is not at all surprising. Dolt 45 showed everyone who he was, many refused to believe him, and now want to act shocked.

Nah. I called him a racist, on this forum, back in 2011. Writers did so across the country. Lawrence O'Donnell said it on tv.
 
Well, there's one person who signed up, among other obvious bigots, Jeff Sessions, Seb Gorka, Steve Bannon, and Stephen Miller. That there was yet another bigot in this administration is not at all surprising. Dolt 45 showed everyone who he was, many refused to believe him, and now want to act shocked.

Nah. I called him a racist, on this forum, back in 2011. Writers did so across the country. Lawrence O'Donnell said it on tv.

The disappointing thing is that people finally discovering that the President is racist should have resulted in his popularity dropping into the teens. Instead IMO it keeps it in the mid-30's because that's the proportion of the US electorate who can really get on board with racism :mad:
 
The disappointing thing is that people finally discovering that the President is racist should have resulted in his popularity dropping into the teens. Instead IMO it keeps it in the mid-30's because that's the proportion of the US electorate who can really get on board with racism :mad:

I suppose that of the Trump supporters on this site, at least most still claim to think that he isn't actually racist.

I do wonder what it would take for them to admit it - presumably actually dressing up in Klan robes.

ETA: Not the world's most convincing apology

"I'm sorry. I'm not sorry that my words were published, I am sorry that I said them in 2013," he wrote. "Those words do not reflect who I am or what I stand for, I regret saying them. Last night I informed the WH that I was resigning so as not to distract from POTUS' many success. #noexcuses"
 
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I guess I'm a bad person but I could get behind this.

As for the rest of the screed?

"Only one person was actually cordial to me," Higbie said. "Every other black person was rude. They wanted me to either load the wood, completely split it for them or some sort of you know assistance in labor. Now, mind you the ad was for free firewood, come take it all you want. And I believe that this translates directly into the culture that is breeding this welfare and the high percentage of people on welfare in the black race. It's a lax of morality."

I'm going out on a limb here, and will say that given what he has written, he mightn't be able to hide his racism, so why should anyone be polite to someone like that?
 
Trump appointee Carl Higbie resigns as public face of agency that runs AmeriCorps after KFile review of racist, sexist, anti-Muslim and anti-LGBT comments on the radio

"I am self funding and will hire the best people".
- Trump, April 2016

"I’m not a racist. I am the least racist person you have ever interviewed.
- Trump, January 2018

Does anyone notice any sort of contradiction there?
 
"The whole African-American thing gets me whipped up because it's like 99% -- and I'm paraphrasing here -- of people who write down African-American have never been to Africa," Higbie said. "So barring dual citizenship, you're American or you're African, but you're not both. I don't care what you think. That's another thing that just sets me off."

Under normal circumstances I could agree to this. "African Americans" aren't Africans, they're Americans who happen to be black. Morgan Freeman actually holds the exact same rhetoric. Except that with this guy in the OP, and considering the rest of the stuff he says, it seems that his reasons for saying this are, let's say, not quite as noble as Mr. Freeman's.
 
Under normal circumstances I could agree to this. "African Americans" aren't Africans, they're Americans who happen to be black. Morgan Freeman actually holds the exact same rhetoric. Except that with this guy in the OP, and considering the rest of the stuff he says, it seems that his reasons for saying this are, let's say, not quite as noble as Mr. Freeman's.

I've never heard an immigrant refer to themselves as "African-American", they usually identify by actual country, Tribe, Family, and so forth. They'll say they're Luo, or Nigerian, or Jamaican, to use a few identifiers that many here could identify.

Also, I find Morgan Freeman's take on race to be laughable, precisely because people like Higbie among every race fi d it vital that they discriminate on the basis of skin color, regardless of whether or not he sees them as such. Kind of like Freeman's solution to poverty is "Man, the bus runs every day, heh heh heh." That's not even bad advise, really.
 
Also, I find Morgan Freeman's take on race to be laughable, precisely because people like Higbie among every race fi d it vital that they discriminate on the basis of skin color, regardless of whether or not he sees them as such. Kind of like Freeman's solution to poverty is "Man, the bus runs every day, heh heh heh." That's not even bad advise, really.

...what?

Why is it laughable? He's arguing that we should stop distinguishing between groups all the time as a way to curb racism. :boggled:
 
Under normal circumstances I could agree to this. "African Americans" aren't Africans, they're Americans who happen to be black. Morgan Freeman actually holds the exact same rhetoric. Except that with this guy in the OP, and considering the rest of the stuff he says, it seems that his reasons for saying this are, let's say, not quite as noble as Mr. Freeman's.


I wonder if this guy supports abolishing St. Patrick's Day celebrations. I suspect that the majority of the people celebrating Irish and Irish-American heritage have never been to Ireland.
 
I wonder if this guy supports abolishing St. Patrick's Day celebrations. I suspect that the majority of the people celebrating Irish and Irish-American heritage have never been to Ireland.

I don't know, but if my wife and I had kids I wouldn't call them "Nippo-Canadians". They'd just be Canadians.
 
Higbie is himself hyphenated: (Orifice)-American. He fit right in with the rest of Trump’s gang of con men, Klansmen, crackpots, wife-beaters, half-wits, and traitors.
 
I've never heard an immigrant refer to themselves as "African-American", they usually identify by actual country, Tribe, Family, and so forth. They'll say they're Luo, or Nigerian, or Jamaican, to use a few identifiers that many here could identify.QUOTE]

A-American is better than what white people used to refer to them as. Words I can't use here. Even "colored" and "negro" have a negative history associated with them as in "Colored Waiting Room". "A-American" has no negative history association and, for the first, is a name they chose themselves to be known by.
Most A-Americans have no idea what part/s of Africa their ancestors came from due to them being imported as property 200 plus years ago. "African American" is all inclusive.
 
I've never heard an immigrant refer to themselves as "African-American", they usually identify by actual country, Tribe, Family, and so forth. They'll say they're Luo, or Nigerian, or Jamaican, to use a few identifiers that many here could identify.QUOTE]

A-American is better than what white people used to refer to them as. Words I can't use here. Even "colored" and "negro" have a negative history associated with them as in "Colored Waiting Room". "A-American" has no negative history association and, for the first, is a name they chose themselves to be known by.
Most A-Americans have no idea what part/s of Africa their ancestors came from due to them being imported as property 200 plus years ago. "African American" is all inclusive.

And that's an important distinction. I have a black coworker who is Angolan-Canadian, because he's from, well, Angola. Sits beside my Irish-Canadian and IndoCanadian coworkers.

But my wife is African Canadian, because knowledge about any specific nation of origin was beaten out of ten generations of her ancestors.
 
And that's an important distinction. I have a black coworker who is Angolan-Canadian, because he's from, well, Angola. Sits beside my Irish-Canadian and IndoCanadian coworkers.

But my wife is African Canadian, because knowledge about any specific nation of origin was beaten out of ten generations of her ancestors.

Wouldn't it help to avoid the kind of racist distinctions we keep seeing if they were just Canadians instead? That's what the original idea was.
 
Well, I for one can't see how enforcing distinction between groups is supposed to eliminate the consequences of people seeing differences all the time.

But that's another topic, I guess.
 
Re: the objection to African-American

Go watch "The Great American Melting Pot" on Schoolhouse Rock.

One verse says something like, "Go and ask your grandma, and what she has to tell, she's proud to be American and something else as well"

and the lady has a button that says, "Kiss me, I'm Polish"

This was 40 years ago, where Schoolhouse Rock was talking about the the value of immigrants bringing their customs, their language and their ways.

That only counts if they are white, right?

Admittedly, the SR Melting Pot sidestepped the issue of African-Americans, but there was a message.
 
...what?

Why is it laughable? He's arguing that we should stop distinguishing between groups all the time as a way to curb racism. :boggled:

"Oh, Mr. Officer, we're both Just American. Ow, ow, stop beating me!"

"Ms. job interviewer, we're both Just American. Wait, why are you hiring that guy that just got out of jail for stealing from his job, when I've never done any such thing?"

"We're both Just American, doctor. Wait, I'm in agonizing pain, why won't you give me anything to help with it?"

And so forth. Whether or not I call myself "black" or "African-American" does nothing to change the fact that many other people will absolutely not hold their end of this bargain that Freeman pulled out of his rear end. It will, however, ensure that I will be blind as to why such things occur, and will reject any resources I could use to fight against them.
 
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Re: the objection to African-American

Go watch "The Great American Melting Pot" on Schoolhouse Rock.

One verse says something like, "Go and ask your grandma, and what she has to tell, she's proud to be American and something else as well"

and the lady has a button that says, "Kiss me, I'm Polish"

This was 40 years ago, where Schoolhouse Rock was talking about the the value of immigrants bringing their customs, their language and their ways.

That only counts if they are white, right?

Admittedly, the SR Melting Pot sidestepped the issue of African-Americans, but there was a message.

And that's America, which has a different immigration model. Canada refers to our system as mosaicism, rather than a melting pot. The mental image being that the people retain their culture, because Canada is the sum of our people's cultures, not one uniform culture that people dissipate into.

ETA: schoolhouse rock was the best... I had a young crush on Interplanet Janet.
 
"Oh, Mr. Officer, we're both Just American. Ow, ow, stop beating me!"

"Ms. job interviewer, we're both Just American. Wait, why are you hiring that guy that just got out of jail for stealing from his job, when I've never done any such thing?"

"We're both Just American, doctor. Wait, I'm in agonizing pain, why won't you give me anything to help with it?"

And so forth. Whether or not I call myself "black" or "African-American" does nothing to change the fact that many other people will absolutely not hold their end of this bargain that Freeman pulled out of his rear end. It will, however, ensure that I will be blind as to why such things occur, and will reject any resources I could use to fight against them.

Freeman just wasn't thinking. Dude's allowed the occasional high profile brain fart, this was his.
 
"Oh, Mr. Officer, we're both Just American. Ow, ow, stop beating me!"

"Ms. job interviewer, we're both Just American. Wait, why are you hiring that guy that just got out of jail for stealing from his job, when I've never done any such thing?"

"We're both Just American, doctor. Wait, I'm in agonizing pain, why won't you give me anything to help with it?"

And so forth. Whether or not I call myself "black" or "African-American" does nothing to change the fact that many other people will absolutely not hold their end of this bargain that Freeman pulled out of his rear end. It will, however, ensure that I will be blind as to why such things occur, and will reject any resources I could use to fight against them.

That is possibly the stupidest answer I could have expected. We're talking about changing attitudes by changing how we talk about one another over periods of time. Did you really think anyone was suggesting anything ressembling what you've just posted?

You should be embarrassed to have written that.
 

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