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New Article about iSkep and AeTruth and 9/11

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Here is a very interesting article that was featured in Gizmodo today about 9/11 truthers and featuring an appearance by the Giddy Debunkies here:

Tony Szamboti, a mechanical engineer, JFK assassination conspiracy theorist, and longtime AE911Truth foot soldier, has been the most prominent truther in the trenches, battling giddy debunkers on the International Skeptics Forum (a science-centered discussion board that grew out of the James Randi Educational Forum, which often focuses on debunking hoaxes, conspiracies, and popular myths) and attempting to salvage the time he invested in a battered ideology.
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Enjoy!

https://gizmodo.com/why-9-11-truthers-are-obsessed-with-the-plasco-high-ris-1822203542
 
I enjoyed! Especially the several instances where AE an TSz actively avoid facing question.

And the byline - the author is a Professional Engineer (PE), a structural engineer. And from New York City. Beats TSz on every count.
 
More proof Dicky ain’t runnin the show no more:

(My attempts to contact Richard Gage or representatives of AE911Truth were either ignored or rejected, but they did wish us “best of luck with your faux journalism hit piece.”)
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While it’s true the scumbag stopped debating in public for fear of having his ass handed to him, he rarely passed up an opportunity for some free publicity.
 
In April 2017, the investigation led by the government of Iran ignored AE911Truth’s recommendations and declared fire to be the sole cause of Plasco’s collapse.​
More than ignoring, they actively rejected them.

Interesting also the linked story that Jeremy Sagan is a 9/11 truther. This bit was remarkable to me:
Usually most people are believers in the official story, unless I'm at a 9/11 convention or something.
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Yes, Jeremy. Ain't gonna change any time soon. Facts and reality are accepted by most people.
 
Oystein said:
I enjoyed! Especially the several instances where AE an TSz actively avoid facing question.

And the byline - the author is a Professional Engineer (PE), a structural engineer. And from New York City. Beats TSz on every count.
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I can tell you one way that author beats me and it is in lying.

He never contacted me yet had the nerve I did not respond to a request for comment on his article. This is the first I even heard about it.

Alex Weinberg apparently has a problem with the truth. That much is clear.
 
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Tony Szamboti said:
I can tell you one way that author beats me and it is in lying.

He never contacted me yet had the nerve I did not respond to a request for comment on his article. This is the first I even heard about it.

Alex Weinberg apparently has a problem with the truth. That much is clear.
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I've just posted your comments to Gizmodo.

Let's see what Mr. Weinberg has to say about that. Because I don't believe you.
 
Don't worry, he is going to get a call from me. He never contacted me and yet made a false statement that he did.

The guy (Alex Weinberg) is apparently heavily moderating the comments. He is only showing 2 and has 75 as pending.
 
I originally clicked on the "more comments" button and nothing showed. That is generally the way to see all of the comments.

However, with your comment above I went and tried clicking on the word "pending". I got the below message and no more than the original two comments he had shown were displayed.

The following replies are approved. To see additional replies that are pending approval, click Show Pending. Warning: These may contain graphic material.

I clicked "show pending" and another similar message came up,

Warning: Replies that are pending approval may contain graphic material. Please proceed with caution.

but no more comments.
 
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And I see all the (70+) published comments plus the 4 pending approval, including mine.

Damn Tony - looks like the NWO is already blocking you on Gizmodo.

Oh wait - I don't believe you.
 
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I could care less what you believe.
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Edited for rule 0 and rule 12.

The guy is apparently not showing the majority of the comments he received to the general public.
 
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Tony Szamboti said:
I could care less what you believe.
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<SNIP>
Edited for rule 0 and rule 12.


The guy is apparently not showing the majority of the comments he received to the general public.
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Like the majority of the "truther" demographic.
 
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Tony Szamboti said:
Don't worry, he is going to get a call from me. He never contacted me and yet made a false statement that he did.

The guy (Alex Weinberg) is apparently heavily moderating the comments. He is only showing 2 and has 75 as pending.
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Could be a problem with your device - mine doesn't show comments at all. I guess I have deactivated something like Java script that would be needed.

But you know who heavily moderates comments? Truthers do. Almost all of them, almost everywhere. It is practically impossible to comment to Truther media without getting censored and blocked in very short time. Where approval is required, it is almost never given. The Truth Movement is the biggest champion of total, heavy handed, totalitarian censorship I ever had to deal with.
 
Oystein said:
Could be a problem with your device - mine doesn't show comments at all. I guess I have deactivated something like Java script that would be needed.

But you know who heavily moderates comments? Truthers do. Almost all of them, almost everywhere. It is practically impossible to comment to Truther media without getting censored and blocked in very short time. Where approval is required, it is almost never given. The Truth Movement is the biggest champion of total, heavy handed, totalitarian censorship I ever had to deal with.
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Perhaps comments from anon hacks aren't shown.
 
"AE911Truth also differentiates itself by rejecting the kookiest 9/11 theories: That no planes were used in the attacks."

I seem to recall that the mopes at AETRUTH are walking that back, at least with respect to the Pentagon.
 
Pinch said:
Im reminded of this beauty by Nick Schou a number of years ago
On the CIT doofuses. The best part was when Balsamo chimed in
with support for the two CIT idiots, touting his "expertise" in
Aviation, which prompted Schou to start addressing him as "Cap't Bob.
Absolutely the best!

http://www.ocweekly.com/news/do-you-believe-a-passenger-jet-hit-the-pentagon-on-9-11-these-men-say-youve-been-pentaconned-6415021
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That article also was the source for the name Aldo the Buffet Slayer
 
Weinberg's reply

Tony Szamboti said:
I can tell you one way that author beats me and it is in lying.

He never contacted me yet had the nerve I did not respond to a request for comment on his article. This is the first I even heard about it.

Alex Weinberg apparently has a problem with the truth. That much is clear.
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I contacted Alex Weinberg, who had this to say:

On 1/20/2018 12:05 PM, Alex Weinberg wrote:
I messaged him through LinkedIn and tried to connect with him, he did not reply. I did the same with Richard Gage. I also called AE911Truth, and sent AE911Truth an email asking for comment.
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Q.E.D.
 
DaveThomasNMSR said:
I contacted Alex Weinberg, who had this to say:
I messaged him through LinkedIn and tried to connect with him, he did not reply. I did the same with Richard Gage. I also called AE911Truth, and sent AE911Truth an email asking for comment.
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Q.E.D.
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And this comment followed:

If Mr. Szamboti has a statement, I will gladly forward it to my editor to add to the article. He can email me at this address.

For the record, I have no ability to moderate comments on my article.
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Yeah, using Linked In to send a message to someone for comment on an article to which you will then claim they didn't respond is the first thing that would come to anyone's mind.

This guy Alex Weinberg never contacted me. I just looked on my Linked In page and all it says is he viewed my profile yesterday.

Linked In sends messages to your regular e-mail and I did not get one from an Alex Weinberg. He is going to get a message from me.

Alex Weinberg needs to remove his fraudulent statement that I did not respond to a request for comment on his article, because he never contacted me beforehand.
 
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I see this has come to a pissing contest about contact and nothing as far as content.


What exactly would be your rebuttal if he did get through to you, Tony?
 
Tony Szamboti said:
Yeah, using Linked In to send a message to someone for comment on an article to which you will then claim they didn't respond is the first thing that would come to anyone's mind.

This guy Alex Weinberg never contacted me. I just looked on my Linked In page and all it says is he viewed my profile yesterday.

Linked In sends messages to your regular e-mail and I did not get one from an Alex Weinberg. He is going to get a message from me.

Alex Weinberg needs to remove his fraudulent statement that I did not respond to a request for comment on his article, because he never contacted me beforehand.
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Face palm. Do you really not understand that nothing he said was false? And now you are going to contact him to complain that he didn’t reach you.

Wow. 9/11 accountability team! Lolz
 
Tony Szamboti said:
Yeah, using Linked In to send a message to someone for comment on an article to which you will then claim they didn't respond is the first thing that would come to anyone's mind.

This guy Alex Weinberg never contacted me. I just looked on my Linked In page and all it says is he viewed my profile yesterday.

Linked In sends messages to your regular e-mail and I did not get one from an Alex Weinberg. He is going to get a message from me.

Alex Weinberg needs to remove his fraudulent statement that I did not respond to a request for comment on his article, because he never contacted me beforehand.
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Well, the following proves it.

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Tony, the author has asked for your comments. I supplied contact info. Up to you, now.
 
Tony Szamboti said:
I could care less what you believe.
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<SNIP>
Edited for rule 0 and rule 12.
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Ah, I think I see the problem. I understand you post from your iPad and I checked and sure enough, iOS does indeed behave differently from Windows 10 on that site. Try this:

1. Evacuate all to the safe room.

2. Carefully check your curtains and blinds for and gaps which they may peep into. You should slide-step as you approach your windows because they have omni-directional microphones which can gauge your footfalls down to a fraction of a millimeter. Wouldn't want to make it easy for them, would you?

3. Return to your fortified position and go to the gizmodo article from your iOS device. You needn't apply any more foil to your device or your person but if it makes you feel better, then by all means.

4. Rotate your iOS device from landscape to portrait. Caution: They have the ability to hack iOS and transform the accelerometer into an effective detonator. Check your device for fastener tampering and excessive weight before proceeding.

5. If you've made this far, portrait mode offers more menu choices than it does in landscape.

Good luck.
 
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DaveThomasNMSR said:
Well, the following proves it.

[qimg]http://www.nmsr.org/weinberg.jpg[/qimg]

Tony, the author has asked for your comments. I supplied contact info. Up to you, now.
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Dave, I spoke to Alex by e-mail this afternoon, as you gave me his address. If you want to see what we said send me your current e-mail by private message.
 
DGM said:
I see this has come to a pissing contest about contact and nothing as far as content.


What exactly would be your rebuttal if he did get through to you, Tony?
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of course it is. just like he ran away from questions posted here.
 
Tony Szamboti said:
Coming here among the ignorant is like walking into a sewer. This place is like one continuous bowel movement.
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Nice way to dodge the elephant in the room - you said Weinberg lied about trying to contact you, and then Weinberg proved he had made the attempt.

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Any comment?

And, are you going to share your interaction with Weinberg, as DGM has suggested?
 
DaveThomasNMSR said:
Nice way to dodge the elephant in the room - you said Weinberg lied about trying to contact you, and then Weinberg proved he had made the attempt.

[qimg]http://www.nmsr.org/weinberg.jpg[/qimg]



Any comment?

And, are you going to share your interaction with Weinberg, as DGM has suggested?
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Dave, what Alex did was hardly acceptable. I told him that the ethical thing to do would be to have ensured he had contacted me before making the disparaging inference he did. Linked In is the last place most would go in trying to contact somebody before commenting that they did not respond. That is like leaving a note on somebody's lawn or knocking on their door at 2:00 AM and when they don't answer saying "well I gave them a chance".

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<SNIP>
Edited for rule 0 and rule 12.
 
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