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Today's Mass Shooting

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fagin said:
In the interests of expediency, and based on similar threads.

Guns bad.

Guns good.

Debate can now progress to nitpicking on details of the type of gun used.
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I am trying to figure out how to run betting pools on mass shootings. Because as random events nothing can be done about, they are perfect for gambling on. That way people can feel something other than powerless frustration when there is a mass shooting.
 
Luckily, there are going to be plenty of thoughts and prayers and people will change their Facebook profile pictures so something like this will surely never happen again.

You know what the truly sad thing is? These shootings have become so common that they aren't even being discussed right now on any of the cable news networks. Mass shootings aren't even news anymore. They just are.
 
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EventHorizon said:
Luckily, there are going to be plenty of thoughts and prayers and people will change their Facebook profile pictures so something like this will surely never happen again.

You know what the truly sad thing is? These shootings have become so common that they aren't even being discussed right now on any of the cable news networks. Mass shootings aren't even news anymore. They just are.
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Sad but true. Today's shooting was carried out by a 15 year old, so not much gun control or pro-Trump angles, so the media won't give it too much thought. Unless he is white and killed non-whites.
 
fagin said:
In the interests of expediency, and based on similar threads.

Guns bad.

Guns good.

Debate can now progress to nitpicking on details of the type of gun used.
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I believe you forgot to add:

Black guns scary

Brown guns less scary

(Hopefully I'm remembering correctly).
 
EventHorizon said:
Luckily, there are going to be plenty of thoughts and prayers and people will change their Facebook profile pictures so something like this will surely never happen again.

You know what the truly sad thing is? These shootings have become so common that they aren't even being discussed right now on any of the cable news networks. Mass shootings aren't even news anymore. They just are.
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One shooting is not news. But the rate of them is. Kind of early in the year for that. Get back to me when you have some YTD stats for comparison.
 
bytewizard said:
Sad but true. Today's shooting was carried out by a 15 year old, so not much gun control or pro-Trump angles, so the media won't give it too much thought. Unless he is white and killed non-whites.
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He was quite overweight.

I'm going with bullied, not enough resources to help, and toss in coming from a gun family and he accessed the weapon at home because bullying alone doesn't always end up being so lethal.

A number of the kids airlifted out had GSWs to the head. I fear two is not going to be the final number here. :(
 
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casebro said:
One shooting is not news. But the rate of them is. Kind of early in the year for that. Get back to me when you have some YTD stats for comparison.
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You do know that January is about as arbitrary as round numbers, right? :rolleyes:

Why does the count get reset here?
 
Yeah, let's not get too excited about school shootings until next January...at which point someone will talk about how we need to see the full 2019 numbers before getting too worked up.
 
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Hate to be callous but if Sandyhook didn't change anything this won't. There's no number of dead children that gun rights advocates won't step over for their silly little hobby.
 
BStrong said:
It has in California back to 1989, but with three separate laws on the books to restrict semi-auto firearms there isn't much benefit to be determined.
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That's debatable. The gun death rates have declined due to many factors and the restrictive gun laws very well could be one of those factors. Some studies suggest that it is a major factor.
 
Craig4 said:
Hate to be callous but if Sandyhook didn't change anything this won't. There's no number of dead children that gun rights advocates won't step over for their silly little hobby.
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Which is why we need to move school shootings from tragedy to comedy. I am looking forward to the presidents supporters harrassing the grieving parents myself.
 
thaiboxerken said:
The NRA is happy about this, it will drive up gun sales.
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I don't know if the NRA is happy, but with the way things are going in Congress now, gun control is further down on the agenda. With Trump as president I suspect most of the people who would buy guns in case of a ban are not worrying at all now.

thaiboxerken said:
Why is that? It appears that no amount of deaths by guns changes gun laws.
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It has before. Recall the AWB of 1994? What about the state level laws you appear to be blind to?
 
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Screw state level laws. Clearly that approach isn't working.

We need a national database that's used to weed out the bad guys. We need the same laws across state lines.
 
NoahFence said:
Screw state level laws. Clearly that approach isn't working.

We need a national database that's used to weed out the bad guys. We need the same laws across state lines.
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Would even this child be in said data base?
 
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