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Old 14th December 2021, 09:37 AM   #161
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Boy, if this thing doesn't get up there in one piece and work right, awful lot of time, money and careers wasted on it.

Nah, it'll be fine!
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Old 15th December 2021, 12:53 PM   #162
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Just read this on CNET . . . "The lift off was penciled in for Dec. 22 but NASA has announced the spacecraft will not fly before Dec. 24. A new date is expected on Dec. 17".

Confirmed on NASA site - "The James Webb Space Telescope team is working a communication issue between the observatory and the launch vehicle system. This will delay the launch date to no earlier than Friday, Dec. 24. We will provide more information about the new launch date no later than Friday, Dec. 17."
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Old 15th December 2021, 01:22 PM   #163
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they probably mean December 2024
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Old 15th December 2021, 01:50 PM   #164
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Originally Posted by tusenfem View Post
they probably mean December 2024
But which Friday in December 2024?

The James Webb Just Wait Space Telescope

Or perhaps The Jesus When? Space Telescope
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Old 15th December 2021, 02:27 PM   #165
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Given the costs and the utter inability to a damn thing if anything goes wrong after launch, I think extreme caution is probably a reasonable thing.
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I've said it before, but if something goes wrong after launch, I'm pretty sure Elon will have a damn good go at it.
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Old 15th December 2021, 10:09 PM   #167
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Originally Posted by ynot View Post
The James Webb Just Wait Space Telescope
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Old 16th December 2021, 08:42 PM   #168
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Then after it is in place, it will take a heart stopping six minutes to deploy the intricate array of mirrors.

No, wait.

Six months to deploy the mirrors.
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Old 17th December 2021, 03:39 AM   #169
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Of course, they are entirely correct to not rush the launch as long as there is any possibility of an issue between the observatory and the launch vehicle system that could be ironed out before it launches. There's decades of work and billions of dollars on the line here, so I want them to be as thorough as possible in making sure everything is ready and no possible point of failure has been left unaddressed.
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Old 17th December 2021, 04:05 AM   #170
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This telescope will provide valuable insight into the origins of the universe I would like to know before I pass away. I am so rooting for a successful everything with this operation. This makes looking to tomorrow fun. (Not like that climate change )
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Old 17th December 2021, 04:25 AM   #171
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Then after it is in place, it will take a heart stopping six minutes to deploy the intricate array of mirrors.

No, wait.

Six months to deploy the mirrors.
A month to get there, three weeks to deploy the mirrors, then several more months of cooling and calibration before it is ready to start doing science.
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Old 17th December 2021, 06:23 PM   #172
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Just read this on CNET . . . "The lift off was penciled in for Dec. 22 but NASA has announced the spacecraft will not fly before Dec. 24. A new date is expected on Dec. 17".

Confirmed on NASA site - "The James Webb Space Telescope team is working a communication issue between the observatory and the launch vehicle system. This will delay the launch date to no earlier than Friday, Dec. 24. We will provide more information about the new launch date no later than Friday, Dec. 17."
Well, it's Friday, Dec. 17, (17:20 PST) but I don't see any new information yet. I suppose technically they haven't passed their stated deadline as long as it's still the 17th somewhere in the world (it's already the 18th here where I live).
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Old 17th December 2021, 10:24 PM   #173
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Well, it's Friday, Dec. 17, (17:20 PST) but I don't see any new information yet. I suppose technically they haven't passed their stated deadline as long as it's still the 17th somewhere in the world (it's already the 18th here where I live).
Yep, getting a bit late in the day their time to "provide more information about the new launch date no later than Friday, Dec. 17".

Hope they didn't mean Friday, Dec. 3017.
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Old 17th December 2021, 10:34 PM   #174
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There was an update via twitter from arianespace a few hours ago. Still scheduled for Friday. Based on the jargon used I understood they are sealing the vehicle fairing now.

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Here's that Twitter feed. Looks like the target is still the 24th:

https://twitter.com/Arianespace?ref_...Ctwgr%5Eauthor

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Target launch date is December 24 at 12:20 am UTC.
Confirmation Saturday.
So sometime on Saturday, there should be another announcement.
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Old 18th December 2021, 07:07 AM   #176
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The latest tweets from Arianespace:
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The James Webb Space Telescope is confirmed for the target launch date of December 24, at 09:20 am Kourou time (12:20 UTC / 13:20 CET).
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Old 18th December 2021, 06:49 PM   #177
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Hope the JWST launches EST Friday, Dec. 24 without further delays or any mishaps. Will be Xmas day for me in NZ and would be best present ever.
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NASA Sets Coverage, Invites Public to View Webb Telescope Launch (NASA)

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NASA will provide coverage of prelaunch, launch, and postlaunch activities for the James Webb Space Telescope, the world’s largest and most powerful space science telescope.

Webb is targeted to launch at 7:20 a.m. EST Friday, Dec. 24, on an Arianespace Ariane 5 rocket from Europe’s Spaceport in Kourou, French Guiana, on the northeastern coast of South America.

Live launch coverage in English will begin at 6 a.m. on NASA TV, the NASA app, and the agency’s website. The public can also watch live on Facebook, Twitter, YouTube, Twitch, and Daily Motion. NASA also will offer a launch broadcast in Spanish beginning at 6:30 a.m. on the agency’s website and Spanish-language social media accounts. NASA will hold a prelaunch media briefing at 2 p.m. on Tuesday, Dec. 21, and a postlaunch news conference approximately 30 minutes after the live launch broadcast ends on Friday, Dec. 24.
Merry Xmas!
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Old 18th December 2021, 07:13 PM   #179
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Originally Posted by Puppycow View Post
Thanks! Same back to you and yours

Now it's The James Webb Just Want Space Telescope.
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Old 19th December 2021, 08:42 PM   #180
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That's 4:20 AM for me. I'll wait for the replay.
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I'll probably watch the launch (I'm not doing anything else Christmas day ) but apart from the fact that rocket launches just do not get old, there'll be nothing to distinguish this particular launch from any other. The real exciting stuff, as has been noted, is going to be well down the track.
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I shall certainly be watching live at lunchtime on Christmas Eve and will be relieved when it's finally on its way, though I know there are several more nail biting moments to come over the next six months.
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Old 21st December 2021, 03:47 PM   #183
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One day delay due to bad weather, now going on the 25th:

https://twitter.com/Arianespace/stat...06125437554697

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The new targeted launch date is Dec. 25, as early as possible within the following launch window:
Between 07:20 a.m. and 07:52 a.m. Washington,
Between 09:20 a.m. and 09:52 a.m. Kourou,
Between 12:20 p.m. and 12:52 p.m. UTC,
Between 01:20 p.m. and 01:52 p.m. Paris.
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Old 21st December 2021, 06:21 PM   #184
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Still too early in the AM. But I'm expecting that the next delay will be down to half a day, which would be fine. Except they'll then delay by 1/4 day, then 1/8, then.....
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Still too early in the AM. But I'm expecting that the next delay will be down to half a day, which would be fine. Except they'll then delay by 1/4 day, then 1/8, then.....
...then according to Zeno they'd never be able to launch.
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...then according to Zeno they'd never be able to launch.
That was already true according to Zeno.
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That was already true according to Zeno.
According to Zeno, Zeno couldn't have completed a single word, let alone a sentence.
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If it's going to fail, please, please just explode on the launch pad spare us months of agony.
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...then according to Zeno they'd never be able to launch.
Please. Even Zeno knew that things happened. At best, according to Zeno, the fundamental principle by which things happen was not properly understood,and the principles then under consideration did not account for the reality of things happening.
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Please. Even Zeno knew that things happened. At best, according to Zeno, the fundamental principle by which things happen was not properly understood,and the principles then under consideration did not account for the reality of things happening.
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I'm glad everyone (almost) got my Zeno joke without having it spelled out.
I'll be even gladder if Santa brings me a successful launch tomorrow.
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I'm glad everyone (almost) got my Zeno joke without having it spelled out.
I'll be even gladder if Santa brings me a successful launch tomorrow.
They got close to getting it.
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I don't follow astronomy much. But I do have a question. I know the Hubble had some issues that required servicing. Based on the distance from the earth, is there any contingency plan for servicing this unit?
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Nope. Way too far away.

For those interested, here's a recent discussion that Brian Green had with four scientists involved with the telescope from the Youtube World Science Foundation channel:

"Things We’ve Never Seen: The James Webb Space Telescope Explores the Cosmos"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtjkNsnC--A
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Come on people. It's off!
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Come on people. It's off!
Still set to be launched at 7:20 AM ET, afaik:

https://www.nasa.gov/nasalive
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any good conspiracies on what the telescope is actually for?
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any good conspiracies on what the telescope is actually for?

Not a conspiracy, but kind of eye opening:

https://www.space.com/16000-spy-sate...opes-nasa.html

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The United States' spy satellite agency is giving NASA two spare space telescopes free of charge, each potentially more powerful than the Hubble Space Telescope, NASA officials announced today (June 4).

The two spy satellite telescopes were originally built to fly space-based surveillance missions for the National Reconnaissance Office (NRO), but will be repurposed by NASA for astronomical research instead. Their donation to NASA was revealed in a surprise announcement.
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any good conspiracies on what the telescope is actually for?
I have a friend who is a serious historian, but likes evidence. He knows the big bang is nonsense because you can't get something from nothing.

The telescope is to see the big bang.
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