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Old 28th June 2018, 02:31 PM   #121
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Originally Posted by lomiller View Post
Generally speaking, militaries prefer to leave delivering humanitarian aid to humanitarian aid groups. They can still provide materials and other support.

My brother in law has a great story about a “Civilian” he worked with who was running the operations for one of the civilian humanitarian agencies in that part of Afghanistan. He could tell the guy wasn’t your normal civilian aid worker. They became friends somewhat so they were having a few drinks on this guys last night there he happened to see the guys orders for his next deployment, turns out he was an SAS Colonel. He assumes the guy was there to help ensure civilian aid groups ran smoothly. (they can be somewhat disorganized...)
Nice story but probably untrue. The SAS is notoriously run by sergeants. There will be a lieutenant-colonel somewhere (Hereford?) but not in Afghanistan. In the UK colonels are on general staff and not attached to a regiment. There is a Brigadier (special forces). I wonder whether the person concerned was an ex-colonel who may have been through the SAS as a lieutenant or captain. A lot of ex military people do go into international NGOs.
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Old 28th June 2018, 02:33 PM   #122
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Originally Posted by Planigale View Post
Nice story but probably untrue. The SAS is notoriously run by sergeants. There will be a lieutenant-colonel somewhere (Hereford?) but not in Afghanistan. In the UK colonels are on general staff and not attached to a regiment. There is a Brigadier (special forces). I wonder whether the person concerned was an ex-colonel who may have been through the SAS as a lieutenant or captain. A lot of ex military people do go into international NGOs.
Dunno about Colonels but SAS Majors mot definitely serve in Afghanistan
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Old 28th June 2018, 03:50 PM   #123
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Originally Posted by Planigale View Post
Nice story but probably untrue. The SAS is notoriously run by sergeants. There will be a lieutenant-colonel somewhere (Hereford?) but not in Afghanistan. In the UK colonels are on general staff and not attached to a regiment. There is a Brigadier (special forces). I wonder whether the person concerned was an ex-colonel who may have been through the SAS as a lieutenant or captain. A lot of ex military people do go into international NGOs.
If there is one thing I learned n the US Army, it's the non coms who run things on a day to day basis.
And if they don't like an officer, they can make his life miserable.....
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Old 28th June 2018, 03:52 PM   #124
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Originally Posted by dudalb View Post
If there is one thing I learned n the US Army, it's the non coms who run things on a day to day basis.
And if they don't like an officer, they can make his life miserable.....
Yes, but the US forces are weird like that.

Over here the 'Ruperts' are very much hands on running things. Lieutenants and Captains do most of the work.
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Old 28th June 2018, 05:31 PM   #125
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Steel tariffs could force the nation's largest nail manufacturer to close or move to Mexico.
The Mid-Continent Nail plant in Poplar Bluff, Missouri, laid off 60 of its 500 workers last week because of increased steel costs. The company blames the 25% tariff on imported steel. Orders for nails plunged 50% after the company raised its prices to deal with higher steel costs.

The company is in danger of shutting production by Labor Day unless the Commerce Department grants it an exclusion from paying the tariffs, company spokesman James Glassman told CNN's Poppy Harlow.

Mid-Continent Nail is "on the brink of extinction," he said.

http://money.cnn.com/2018/06/26/news...ses/index.html
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According to Putin's stooge...

Originally Posted by Trump
NATO is as bad as NAFTA.
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Old 28th June 2018, 06:03 PM   #127
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Trump criticizes a Canadian trade policy, and then admits he has no idea what he's actually talking about.

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Speaking at a rally in Fargo, North Dakota on Wednesday might, Trump took a break from his usual improvisation to read out a note card he said he had been given. It was a complaint about Canada’s wheat practices.

Immediately after reading the note, the president declared that he had no idea what he was talking about.

“John and Kevin gave me something, they told me this,” he said, likely referring to North Dakota Sen. John Hoeven and Rep. Kevin Cramer. Beginning to read, he said, “Canadian wheat markets consistently discriminate against the United States’s wheat by grading it as feed.”

He then pointed quizzically at the audience.

“Do you know what that means? They know what it means,” he said, pointing behind him. “I don’t know what the hell it means. I just know it’s a bad deal. What the hell does that mean?”

"I don't know what it is, but I know that it's bad." A stellar decision-making process.
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Old 28th June 2018, 06:10 PM   #128
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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop View Post
Steel tariffs could force the nation's largest nail manufacturer to close or move to Mexico.
The Mid-Continent Nail plant in Poplar Bluff, Missouri, laid off 60 of its 500 workers last week because of increased steel costs. The company blames the 25% tariff on imported steel. Orders for nails plunged 50% after the company raised its prices to deal with higher steel costs.

The company is in danger of shutting production by Labor Day unless the Commerce Department grants it an exclusion from paying the tariffs, company spokesman James Glassman told CNN's Poppy Harlow.

Mid-Continent Nail is "on the brink of extinction," he said.

http://money.cnn.com/2018/06/26/news...ses/index.html
And this is what drives me crazy:

A lot of Republicans know damn well that Trump's tariff policies are going to lead to disaster, but still they are afraid to push back on them..despite the fact that fighting high tariffs would be Classic GOP Free Market policy. The cowardice is disgusting.
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Old 28th June 2018, 06:16 PM   #129
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About what you would expect from Benedict Donald.

though, realistically, Since NATO was formed by a formal treaty, Trump would need approval from the Senate to pull out. And that would be very tought to get. Every Democrat would vote against pulling out, and there are enough Republicans who would break with Trump on this issue to make it a non starter. Senate seats are not nearly as vulnerable to primaring as House seats.
And I even think his closest advisors would advise against it.
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Old 28th June 2018, 08:48 PM   #130
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I notice my idea that armed resistence to a dictatorship might be necessary is not getting shot down as quickly as it would have been in the past.
I think that most people are just keeping right away from **** like that.
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Old 28th June 2018, 09:52 PM   #131
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We should not forget those Russian bots are still agitating. Just because FaceBook has a slick commercial out telling us their bad days are over and we can all go back to being warm and fuzzy doesn't mean it's true.

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Russian Bot 272 is a representative of the People of Light, a group once known a white people. He proudly announced the Age of Guilt is officially over. The official statement came in the comment section of the Breitbart story Al Sharpton Thinks More White People Would Care If Police Were Shooting Them In The Back.

Here are excerpts from Russian Bot 272’s declaration:
Let’s get something straight. If non U.S. citizens are a race, then U.S. citizens are a race, which makes the democrat party the most virulently bigoted and racist organization in the U.S.

In the last 50 years the greastest help to the black community has been President Donald J. Trump.

That great white man, Sir Issac Newton showed that white light is made up of several colours. None of them black or brown.

The Age of Guilt is over.

Those who have wronged us should be happy they are still alive.
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Everyone in the Breitbart comment section lauded Russian Bot 272’s concise thinking and all-American position on police brutality.

MAGA MAN is a stalwart supporter of Russian Bot 272 and had this to say:
Whites are being drvien into extinction. But its not because they chose to be its because the globalists/satanists have infiltrated their countries and attacked them. A big part of the reason their able to do it is because of the altruism of white people I truly believe that. Whites are almost like sheep in a lot of ways and aren’t nearly as quick to group together to defend themselves against a common threat as other races like blacks hispanics and asians. It is interesting, I was watching a nat geo show and it was showing how when giant Japanese hornets attack asian bee colonies the whole colony resists it whereas when it attacks Europeon bees they fight back one at a time and so they perish. European people are like their bees they build the greatest countries in the world but their much less quick to defend them from infiltration and attack.
However, the comment was quickly taken down by moderators due to the fact watching a ‘nat geo show’ sounds a bit too elitist.
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Old 29th June 2018, 12:10 AM   #132
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Originally Posted by Planigale View Post
Nice story but probably untrue. The SAS is notoriously run by sergeants. There will be a lieutenant-colonel somewhere (Hereford?) but not in Afghanistan. In the UK colonels are on general staff and not attached to a regiment. There is a Brigadier (special forces). I wonder whether the person concerned was an ex-colonel who may have been through the SAS as a lieutenant or captain. A lot of ex military people do go into international NGOs.
A correction, the commander UK special forces is now a Major General not a brigadier his? deputy is a colonel. There is an honorary colonel commandant of the SAS, the battalion is commanded by a lieutenant colonel, squadrons (usually 4 / battalion) by majors, troops (usually 4 / squadron by captains). The point remains that there might be an ex-colonel in an NGO who served with the SAS, there won't be a colonel in the SAS. (An ex boss was a colonel who when i asked which regiment replied "red tab m'girl". My unlightened look led to him explaining that on promotion to colonel you go on general staff and cease to be attached to a regiment. This is signified by having a red tab (whatever that is).)
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Old 29th June 2018, 01:16 AM   #133
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Who is that?
The source I saw was captioned as that being the president of Portugal, but I have no idea how true that actually is. It's certainly someone getting out of a car that is flying Portugal's flag, though.
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Old 29th June 2018, 01:55 AM   #134
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About what you would expect from Benedict Donald.

though, realistically, Since NATO was formed by a formal treaty, Trump would need approval from the Senate to pull out. And that would be very tought to get. Every Democrat would vote against pulling out, and there are enough Republicans who would break with Trump on this issue to make it a non starter. Senate seats are not nearly as vulnerable to primaring as House seats.
And I even think his closest advisors would advise against it.
You hope there are enough Republicans who would break.

We haven't seen any sign of it yet.
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Old 29th June 2018, 02:06 AM   #135
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(An ex boss was a colonel who when i asked which regiment replied "red tab m'girl". My unlightened look led to him explaining that on promotion to colonel you go on general staff and cease to be attached to a regiment. This is signified by having a red tab (whatever that is).)
It refers to the colour behind the rank insignia on the epaulettes.
General Staff have red borders.
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Old 29th June 2018, 02:06 AM   #136
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Originally Posted by dudalb View Post
About what you would expect from Benedict Donald.

though, realistically, Since NATO was formed by a formal treaty, Trump would need approval from the Senate to pull out. And that would be very tought to get. Every Democrat would vote against pulling out, and there are enough Republicans who would break with Trump on this issue to make it a non starter. Senate seats are not nearly as vulnerable to primaring as House seats.
And I even think his closest advisors would advise against it.
Steve Doocy, Ainsley Earhardt, and Brian Kilmeade?
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Old 29th June 2018, 02:22 AM   #137
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Originally Posted by dudalb View Post
About what you would expect from Benedict Donald.

though, realistically, Since NATO was formed by a formal treaty, Trump would need approval from the Senate to pull out. And that would be very tought to get. Every Democrat would vote against pulling out, and there are enough Republicans who would break with Trump on this issue to make it a non starter. Senate seats are not nearly as vulnerable to primaring as House seats.
Whether on not they are as vulnerable to primarying, so far the Senate has backed President Trump. When it was 52/48 they could afford one dissenter, these days not so much.

If it went to a Senate vote, the chance of it not passing is close to zero.

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And I even think his closest advisors would advise against it.
Does President Trump have any advisor that he actually listens to, or sooner or later will he go with his famous "gut" regardless of what anyone else says ?
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Old 29th June 2018, 03:19 AM   #138
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Judge rejects request to move Trump's charity trial date from close to Midterms
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Old 29th June 2018, 03:42 AM   #139
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Mentioned in that article is the pressure from the judge to settle the case, she obviously doesn't know the calibre of Trump, of course Trump won't settle - he's told us he never settles he always wins:

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...."It would be easy for me to settle the case, it's a simple civil case," he continued. "Probably I should, but I don't want to because I give them a great soundbite, but I don't settle cases. I don't get sued because I don't settle cases, I win in court."...
And we know his word is his bond!
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Old 29th June 2018, 03:47 AM   #140
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Bolton was fawning all over Putin this morning, very similar to the way they all fawn over Trump in his presence.
I suspect Putin showed Bolton the director's cut of the music video and Bolton became much more pliant.
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Looks like McConnell's excuse to reject Garland is being immediately discarded, to pretty much no one's surprise. Principles? Respect? Yeah... the Republican Party seems to have completely ditched those things.

It's pretty much at the point where I've lost nearly all desire to be the "better person" for either general principle or the sake of the undecided people, because I know that they will do their utmost to twist that to their advantage and will continue their long-standing policy of not reciprocating, with those like McConnell and Trump leading that charge.
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Looks like McConnell's excuse to reject Garland is being immediately discarded, to pretty much no one's surprise. Principles? Respect? Yeah... the Republican Party seems to have completely ditched those things.

It's pretty much at the point where I've lost nearly all desire to be the "better person" for either general principle or the sake of the undecided people, because I know that they will do their utmost to twist that to their advantage and will continue their long-standing policy of not reciprocating, with those like McConnell and Trump leading that charge.
Well I suppose there is a difference between a Presidential election year (where the nominees might change) and a mid-term election year (where those responsible for confirming the nomination might change) if someone was minded to split hairs
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Well I suppose there is a difference between a Presidential election year (where the nominees might change) and a mid-term election year (where those responsible for confirming the nomination might change) if someone was minded to split hairs
I thought the difference was significant, and kinda being glossed over.

On Wednesday’s show, which I just listened to, Rachel Maddow barely mentioned the difference in “election years”, if she mentioned it at all.

The congressional elections do not affect the person making the nomination. They do affect the “advice and consent” of the congress, so there’s some logic/validity to the comparison, but it still seems quite different from a presidential election year.

None of which excuses the sleaziness of the Republicans for blocking Garland.
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I totally agree, but the problem is that many in the GOP don't want UHC of ANY kind..it goes against their "The free Market will solve all problems" ideology.
Yes, and that's the closest they get to principles. There is a valid deological discussion on healthcare, whilst there isn't really on trechery or the rule of law.
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Steve Doocy, Ainsley Earhardt, and Brian Kilmeade?
Sean Hannity.
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I will go further and say the person making that claim really does not know much about how the US Army works.
I’m speaking from first hand experience. Relative to most other NATO countries, US forces are not good at interacting with civilian populations. They are younger, more aggressive and their training is to focused on their own security and defending against possible attack. Even when you can be attacked at any moment you can’t act like you expect someone to attack you and hope to make friends with them. (conversely US forces are much better than any other regular forces at missions where they have a well defined target to fight.)
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Local article on point...

I found this article very good and thought I'd share it.

I think it's a pretty fair assessment of Trump's actions over the last few days.
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(House Judiciary Dems have called on @RepGoodlatte and @TGowdySC to "immediately release the unclassified transcript" of the hearing)
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Now Trump apparently wants to withdraw from the WTO.


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President Donald Trump has been privately suggesting that he wants the US to withdraw from the World Trade Organization, according to a new report.
Trump has been repeatedly telling White House officials he wants out from the global trade organization, Axios reported Friday.
"He's (threatened to withdraw) 100 times. It would totally (screw) us as a country," a source who's discussed the subject with Trump told Axios.
The source also told the publication that Trump has lamented, "We always get f---ed by them. I don't know why we're in it. The WTO is designed by the rest of the world to screw the United States."

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(conversely US forces are much better than any other regular forces at missions where they have a well defined target to fight.)
Better than who exactly?
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So to recap: Healthy, lifetime appointee Justice Kennedy randomly steps down days before stunning NYT report linking him, his financier son & Russia-connected Deutsche Bank to Trump & a billion dollar loan deal and no one in any party finds this at all fishy? Hello, anyone?
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Old 29th June 2018, 10:15 AM   #153
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So to recap: Healthy, lifetime appointee Justice Kennedy randomly steps down days before stunning NYT report linking him, his financier son & Russia-connected Deutsche Bank to Trump & a billion dollar loan deal and no one in any party finds this at all fishy? Hello, anyone?
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Old 29th June 2018, 10:21 AM   #154
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Now Trump apparently wants to withdraw from the WTO.
Isolated from the world.
No, not totally isolated.

They will still have strong, long-lasting ties to Russia and North Korea.
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Old 29th June 2018, 10:25 AM   #155
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Isolated, indeed.

What gets me is how saner minds in positions of power sit by, largely stupified while a rogue ignoramus trashes their country in the eyes of the world. In the space of hardly more than a year this ignorant toddler has wrecked his own playpen, with no end to further mischief in sight. Not to mentio the awful effects that radiate outward around the globe.

One could be forgiven for thinking that Trump was made into a very real Manchurian candidate by Putin. Effectively make the US into a supine, compliant vassal; an ex-KGB operative's wet dream come true.
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Old 29th June 2018, 10:50 AM   #156
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A correction, the commander UK special forces is now a Major General not a brigadier his? deputy is a colonel. There is an honorary colonel commandant of the SAS, the battalion is commanded by a lieutenant colonel, squadrons (usually 4 / battalion) by majors, troops (usually 4 / squadron by captains). The point remains that there might be an ex-colonel in an NGO who served with the SAS, there won't be a colonel in the SAS. (An ex boss was a colonel who when i asked which regiment replied "red tab m'girl". My unlightened look led to him explaining that on promotion to colonel you go on general staff and cease to be attached to a regiment. This is signified by having a red tab (whatever that is).)
I can’t say I’m completely familiar with how things work in the UK military, but here there typically there are many more officers associated with a given service than there are jobs in in the actual regiment, battalion, etc. This is especially true for Senior Officers where they rotate people though specific jobs and rarely leave one person there for more than 2 years. They are not retired nor does their designation change when they are doing something else(eg like profession vs job)

The idea is to have numerous people who have either done that job or have all the qualifications they want to assign them to that job. Being posted someplace else doing something else doesn’t change what they are. Eg my sister is a Colonel with our Combat Engineers, and that is what she is regardless of whether she’s actually posted to a job in a CE Regiment.

Again I’m not completely familiar with how this would work in the UK military but I imagine it would be similar especially for something like the SAS. It would make sense that a Colonel would be a headquarters job rather than one within the Regiment itself, and if the general rules that apply here hold having held the Lt Colonel job within the Regiment would be a virtual requirement to hold that job but they may never have held the deputy job, which in turn would be a virtual requirement to hold the Major General position. .
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How does this happen?
Interesting. "Stuttering John prank calls the White House and actually gets called back by President Donald Trump on Air Force One."
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Better than who exactly?
For pure combat missions? IMO, pretty much everyone other than some Special Forces units.
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For pure combat missions? IMO, pretty much everyone other than some Special Forces units.
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Canada has just announced retaliatory tariffs against the U.S. on $12.6 worth of goods.

These include whiskies, mustard, toilet paper, washing machines, motorboats, playing cards ketchup, and more.

They say, "We will not back down!"
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