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Old 21st August 2018, 09:23 AM   #281
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The Treasury Department reports that in the first 10 months of this budget year, the deficit totaled $684 billion, up 20.8 percent from the same period last year. Revenues are up only 1 percent this year with the increase held back by a big drop in corporate tax payments. Spending is up 4.4 percent, reflecting a big boost Congress approved earlier this year for domestic and military programs and rising costs to finance the debt.

Originally Posted by acbytesla View Post
The argument that windmills kill birds is notoriously bad.

It is estimated that wind turbines kill anywhere between 25 thousand to as many as 600,000 birds worldwide. Except nobody really knows. There have been few real studies with credible data collection.

Sounds like a lot of birds. It's not. Glass skyscrapers kill millions of birds. Windows are huge bird killers and house cats are estimated to 3.8 BILLION birds every year.

Perspective.

If we've learned anything its that trumpistas are immune to mere facts and real numbers, they only believe the made up ones Trump himself spouts.
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Old 21st August 2018, 09:34 AM   #282
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Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger View Post
Paris called Mudd a liar after insulting him that people want security clearances for the money.

No wonder Mudd said, "We're done."

And Sling thinks this makes Mudd look bad?
Absent much of anything but flyby quotes, who really knows?
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Old 21st August 2018, 09:50 AM   #283
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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop View Post
Trump Tweets

"Fake News, of which there is soooo much (this time the very tired New Yorker) falsely reported that I was going to take the extraordinary step of denying Intelligence Briefings to President Obama. Never discussed or thought of!"


"Even James Clapper has admonished John Brennan for having gone totally off the rails. Maybe Clapper is being nice to me so he doesnít lose his Security Clearance for lying to Congress!"

"A Blue Wave means Crime and Open Borders. A Red Wave means Safety and Strength!"
Trump has just admitted that "being nice" to him" is a requirement for keeping one's security clearance. It could not get any clearer that he is threatening those who dare speak out against him. Nah, that's not stifling free speech. He's big on the Second Amendment. Not so much on the First.
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Old 21st August 2018, 09:52 AM   #284
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Trump tweets

"Bill DeBlasio, the high taxing Mayor of NYC, just stole my campaign slogan: PROMISES MADE PROMISES KEPT! Thatís not at all nice. No imagination! @foxandfriends"
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Old 21st August 2018, 10:04 AM   #285
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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop View Post
Trump tweets

"Bill DeBlasio, the high taxing Mayor of NYC, just stole my campaign slogan: PROMISES MADE PROMISES KEPT! Thatís not at all nice. No imagination! @foxandfriends"
DeBlasio took a page out of Mrs. Trump's playbook "How to Steal a Speech and Pass it Off as Your Own".
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Old 21st August 2018, 10:10 AM   #286
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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop View Post
Trump tweets

"Bill DeBlasio, the high taxing Mayor of NYC, just stole my campaign slogan: PROMISES MADE PROMISES KEPT! Thatís not at all nice. No imagination! @foxandfriends"
Sez the guy who stole his campaign slogan from Reagan.
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Again, offered without comment.

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Old 21st August 2018, 11:11 AM   #288
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Cohen reaches plea deal in tax fraud case!!

http://thehill.com/homenews/news/402...fraud-case-abc

I await the Dolts response.
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Old 21st August 2018, 11:13 AM   #289
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Originally Posted by WilliamSeger View Post
Sez the guy who stole his campaign slogan from Reagan.

And stole his 2020 campaign slogan from a horror/action movie about the rich people controlling the government arranging the mass murder of the poor.
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Old 21st August 2018, 11:22 AM   #290
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I must be psychic; I just knew Randy would do that!
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Old 21st August 2018, 11:46 AM   #291
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Originally Posted by acbytesla View Post
The argument that windmills kill birds is notoriously bad.

It is estimated that wind turbines kill anywhere between 25 thousand to as many as 600,000 birds worldwide. Except nobody really knows. There have been few real studies with credible data collection.

Sounds like a lot of birds. It's not. Glass skyscrapers kill millions of birds. Windows are huge bird killers and house cats are estimated to 3.8 BILLION birds every year.

Perspective.
Also the double standards are astonishing, removing environmental regulations (so companies can make more profit) therefore harming critters is good unless the company is a windmill company then the effect on critters is of the utmost importance. It almost seems that it isn't the bird deaths that are important.
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Old 21st August 2018, 12:12 PM   #292
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A little news about Kavanaugh (Trump's supreme court nominee).

Republican senator Collins (who claims to be pro-choice/pro-women, and who could in theory be the vote that blocks the appointment) had a meeting with Kavanaugh where he claimed Roe v. Wade was "settled law". So, what this means is that (in theory) Collins is a bit more likely to vote to confirm (since she can point to the claim of "settled law".)

Of course, in practice, abortion laws are still under attack. Even if Kavanaugh won't vote to overturn Roe v. Wade, he could very well vote in favor of other abortion restrictions (perhaps allowing states to impose waiting times, or limits on the number of abortion clinics) without overturning abortion rights completely.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/21/polit...law/index.html
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Old 21st August 2018, 12:18 PM   #293
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Originally Posted by Segnosaur View Post
A little news about Kavanaugh (Trump's supreme court nominee).

Republican senator Collins (who claims to be pro-choice/pro-women, and who could in theory be the vote that blocks the appointment) had a meeting with Kavanaugh where he claimed Roe v. Wade was "settled law". So, what this means is that (in theory) Collins is a bit more likely to vote to confirm (since she can point to the claim of "settled law".)

Of course, in practice, abortion laws are still under attack. Even if Kavanaugh won't vote to overturn Roe v. Wade, he could very well vote in favor of other abortion restrictions (perhaps allowing states to impose waiting times, or limits on the number of abortion clinics) without overturning abortion rights completely.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/21/polit...law/index.html
Exactly. But I still think the major reason Trump nominated Kavanaugh is due to his statements regarding a sitting president's immunity to investigation and criminal indictment.
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Old 21st August 2018, 12:23 PM   #294
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Originally Posted by Segnosaur View Post
A little news about Kavanaugh (Trump's supreme court nominee).

Republican senator Collins (who claims to be pro-choice/pro-women, and who could in theory be the vote that blocks the appointment) had a meeting with Kavanaugh where he claimed Roe v. Wade was "settled law". So, what this means is that (in theory) Collins is a bit more likely to vote to confirm (since she can point to the claim of "settled law".)

Of course, in practice, abortion laws are still under attack. Even if Kavanaugh won't vote to overturn Roe v. Wade, he could very well vote in favor of other abortion restrictions (perhaps allowing states to impose waiting times, or limits on the number of abortion clinics) without overturning abortion rights completely.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/21/polit...law/index.html
Tammy Duckworth tore into Collins on this. Collins claimed the same thing with Gorsuch, who wrote a book on precedent. And then in one of the first things he did on the SC, he voted to overturn a 100 year old precedent.

These "office assurances" are worth the paper their written on.
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Old 21st August 2018, 12:38 PM   #295
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Exactly. But I still think the major reason Trump nominated Kavanaugh is due to his statements regarding a sitting president's immunity to investigation and criminal indictment.
Quite possible.

But I've always wondered how it was supposed to work. Even if he were opposed to any sort of investigation, etc. against the president, Kavanaugh would be only one vote on the supreme court. So, you'd have to get 4 other supreme court justices to agree with him on any case involving the president. Now, granted, we can assume that at least some judges would similarly want to give the president a free pass (I think we can assume Gorsuch has no moral principles and would side with Trump), but there is no guarantee that at least one or 2 of the normally conservative-leaning judges will vote against Trump.
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Exactly. But I still think the major reason Trump nominated Kavanaugh is due to his statements regarding a sitting president's immunity to investigation and criminal indictment.
And of course how he was so involved in getting Bill Clinton on the stand. As a massive hypocrite that has to appeal to Trump.
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Originally Posted by Segnosaur View Post
Quite possible.

But I've always wondered how it was supposed to work. Even if he were opposed to any sort of investigation, etc. against the president, Kavanaugh would be only one vote on the supreme court. So, you'd have to get 4 other supreme court justices to agree with him on any case involving the president. Now, granted, we can assume that at least some judges would similarly want to give the president a free pass (I think we can assume Gorsuch has no moral principles and would side with Trump), but there is no guarantee that at least one or 2 of the normally conservative-leaning judges will vote against Trump.
I agree that Kavanaugh's being on the court would not guarantee it, but it certainly would indicate to Trump that he'd have at least one arguing that case to the others. As you say, Gorsuch would likely side with Trump and I suspect it would not be that hard to get the other conservative judges to agree. I think we'd see a split on the usual lines. What the SC needed was another moderate to balance the court, not another liberal or conservative.
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There is a distinct lack of dead birds around our local wind farm.
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There is a distinct lack of dead birds around our local wind farm.
And my daughter has complained several times to the appropriate department at her work about the dead birds she finds daily at the base of the glass fronted buildings.

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There is a distinct lack of dead birds around our local wind farm.
Have you ever seen the rotational speed of the blades on these big wind turbines? It really isn't that fast. I find it very hard to believe that they pose more of a hazard than the burning of fossil fuels.
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The swamp Trump brought with him is being drained - Cohen pleads guilty to bank fraud.
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SO Cohen is going Joe Valachi on Trump....this is going to be fun.
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The swamp Trump brought with him is being drained - Cohen pleads guilty to bank fraud.
And to campaign finance fraud is being reported.
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I love it. Trump brings a bunch of cronies to the white house who's only qualifications are personal loyalty and they even fail on that regard. Trump truly is stupid Nixon.
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I am getting images of that final shot of a rat running across the screen in "The Departed"....
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Absent much of anything but flyby quotes, who really knows?
Depends on what you think this response to Trump's Tweet means:

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"Just watched former Intelligence Official Phillip Mudd become totally unglued and weird while debating wonderful @PARISDENNARD over Brennan’s Security Clearance. Dennard destroyed him but Mudd is in no mental condition to have such a Clearance. Should be REVOKED?
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SO Cohen is going Joe Valachi on Trump....this is going to be fun.
May not be as much fun as we would have hoped...

From: https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/21/polit...lks/index.html
As part of the plea deal under discussion earlier Tuesday, Cohen was not expected to cooperate with the government, one source told CNN.

So, we'll have to wait and see whether Cohen has actually flipped on Trump, or whether the plea deal was just a way to prevent the case going to trial (where there are no guarantees of success by either side.)
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May not be as much fun as we would have hoped...

From: https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/21/polit...lks/index.html
As part of the plea deal under discussion earlier Tuesday, Cohen was not expected to cooperate with the government, one source told CNN.

So, we'll have to wait and see whether Cohen has actually flipped on Trump, or whether the plea deal was just a way to prevent the case going to trial (where there are no guarantees of success by either side.)
Big moment. Cohen admits to working at the direction of candidate Trump. Trump officially implicated.

Cohen implicates Trump in two schemes. First to suppress the story about Karen McDougal. Second in the payment to Stormy Daniels.

This is a very bad day for Trump. Cohen states that he made the payment to Stormy Daniels at the direction of candidate Trump.
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The caveat on the Trump presidency is now cemented in history. He's president but could only achieve it through unlawful means.
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...Trump truly is stupid Nixon.
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"My fellow Americans, let me state, firmly and unequivocally, I resent anyone comparing Donald Trump to myself. Even as here, with the intent to disparage Mr. Trump, I resent having my name mentioned with his in the same sentence. In fact, he makes me glad indeed that I am no longer among the living!"
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Trump’s ex-lawyer Michael Cohen says he broke campaign finance laws ‘at the direction of’ Donald Trump, implicating the sitting U.S. president in a felony.
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Manafort guilty on 8 of the charges.
Not a good day for the White House.
I can hear it now "If you cooperate with the Mueller investigation, Mr Manafort, it will be taken into consideration in your sentencing."
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Can't wait for the Twitter meltdown.
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Trumpís ex-lawyer Michael Cohen says he broke campaign finance laws Ďat the direction ofí Donald Trump, implicating the sitting U.S. president in a felony.
Yep. Do you guys think we will see more people jump ship soon? Seems like Trump will double-down as usual, which will only make things worse. Wouldn't be surprised to see resignations increase in the near future.
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Can't wait for the Twitter meltdown.
He has a rally in West Virginia tonight. It's going to be a special one.
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He has a rally in West Virginia tonight. It's going to be a special one.
hoo-boy...
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He has a rally in West Virginia tonight. It's going to be a special one.
It is going to be fun watching him try to stick to the script.
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if those reports are true, deal or no deal Cohen is ratting on Donnie.
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I can't wait for the FOX spin on this.

I doubt this is the last crime Trump will be implicated in by the time Mueller is through. No wonder Trump's been working overtime trying to discredit it. He knew what was coming. And what is yet to come, most likely.
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