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Old 7th September 2018, 05:48 AM   #1
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Man shot, killed by off-duty Dallas police officer who walked into wrong apartment

https://www.wfaa.com/article/news/ma.../287-591760228

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Dallas police say one of their officers was going home after her shift when she walked into the wrong apartment and shot and killed the man inside.
We are supposed to believe that this cop thought a man broke into her apartment, and also completely redecorated it?
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Old 7th September 2018, 06:00 AM   #2
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Unless she moved in three days ago, how does one walk into the wrong apartment?
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I'm guessing she'll insist the victim became hostile and thus take the "feared for my life" defense. As is usually the case, the only potential witness to that claim is the one who got killed.

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Originally Posted by Delphic Oracle View Post
I'm guessing she'll insist the victim became hostile and thus take the "feared for my life" defense. As is usually the case, the only potential witness to that claim is the one who got killed.
What would your reaction be if you are sitting in your living room and a cop just casually walks in the front door?
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Old 7th September 2018, 06:18 AM   #5
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Maybe he mistakenly thought she was his girlfriend and tried to "make love".
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Originally Posted by William Parcher View Post
Maybe he mistakenly thought she was his girlfriend and tried to "make love".
She was in full uniform...
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Originally Posted by LTC8K6 View Post
She was in full uniform...
Probably not what happened in this particular case, but there have been instances of police being mistaken for costumed strippers.
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Originally Posted by LTC8K6 View Post
She was in full uniform...
And his apartment was in full "not my apartment".
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Old 7th September 2018, 06:24 AM   #9
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Originally Posted by LTC8K6 View Post
What would your reaction be if you are sitting in your living room and a cop just casually walks in the front door?
Probably a massive wave of anxiety. My point is it doesn't matter what I did or didn't do if I'm not alive to tell the grand jury my side of it.
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I'm very, very skeptical that this is anything resembling the full story.
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Old 7th September 2018, 06:30 AM   #11
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One time I was dressed in full "combats" military gear for halloween, and walked right into a house at the wrong address for a party I was going to.

In my defence the girls texted me the wrong addy (right street but reversed the address house number) ... there were two startled people staring at me ... I quickly realized my error, and excused myself and walked to the correct address.

To my knowledge none of us was carrying a firearm
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I'm very, very skeptical that this is anything resembling the full story.
I can't form an opinion or position until I read the Daily Mail.
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Old 7th September 2018, 06:34 AM   #13
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I can't form an opinion or position until I read the Daily Mail.
I don't know the race, political leanings, or gender/sex spectrum of either person involved, so I'm currently in a state of Schrodinger's Outrage.
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Her first thought before seeing that it's not her apartment (if that even happened) would have been, "Why the hell is my door unlocked?".
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I don't know the race

Originally Posted by WFAA
26-year-old Botham Shem Jean
I'm making a bet that he is not a honky.
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I guess if you have the wrong apartment and somehow don't realize it, and the door is unlocked when you left it locked, you are suspicious.

But, the moment you open the door you've got to know it's not your home.

Did she call in a burglary when she found "her door" unlocked?
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I think if she thought the place had been burgled, she'd have called it in.

So I don't think she believed the unlocked door indicated a burglary.
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Something else happened.

Unless she was intoxicated.
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Unless she was intoxicated.
I'll have 50p on the bet.

Either that or he played really loud music late at night...
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More here:
https://www.dallasnews.com/news/crim...e-headquarters

I would imagine that the scenario was something like, "Black guy in my apartment. I fear for my life. Must shoot now!"
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Not sure how it is possible to be this stupid and still manage to function normally up until last night.
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More here:
https://www.dallasnews.com/news/crim...e-headquarters

I would imagine that the scenario was something like, "Black guy in my apartment. I fear for my life. Must shoot now!"
"Open up! Open Up!"

I can't see why either the female cop in question, or the cops who arrived later, would be yelling that?

Did the female cop possibly try a key that didn't work and then start trying to get in?
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Originally Posted by LTC8K6 View Post
https://www.wfaa.com/article/news/ma.../287-591760228



We are supposed to believe that this cop thought a man broke into her apartment, and also completely redecorated it?
Maybe they all look the same.................
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Originally Posted by LTC8K6 View Post
Did the female cop possibly try a key that didn't work and then start trying to get in?
This is unconfirmed, but that may have happened here...

Originally Posted by St. Lucia Times
According to the relative, the police officer’s key was found in the lock of the door of the apartment belonging to the deceased, after she tried unsuccessfully to open it.

The family member expressed the view that the officer involved in the shooting, who lived in an apartment on another floor of the complex, had to have been ‘drunk.’...
https://stluciatimes.com/2018/09/07/...rong-apartment
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Any scenario, even if I factor in "absolute blackout drunk" (which would be weird since the article states she was just coming off a full shift) still can't get beyond that "Forget which apartment is mine" problem and even if I could hit the "I believe" button on that... no scenario still makes sense in my head.
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So the door is locked, this idiot is trying to use the wrong key, and the guy inside probably yells something at whoever is trying to get in.

Officer Idiot then starts yelling for him to "open up".
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Any scenario, even if I factor in "absolute blackout drunk" (which would be weird since the article states she was just coming off a full shift) still can't get beyond that "Forget which apartment is mine" problem and even if I could hit the "I believe" button on that... no scenario still makes sense in my head.
Multiple identical floors, press the wrong button in the lift while drunk (having necked a few on the way home), get off at the wrong floor but go to the "right" apartment? If, for example, she lives in 806 and the shooting happened in 506, that might make some kind of sense.

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We don't know if there is an elevator or just stairs. An exact address has been given and maybe somebody can check on the number of floors. I think that an apartment building with more than 3 floors must have an elevator but I'm not certain of that code.
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There's still a pretty big air gap from "I mis-identified my apartment" to "Therefore I shot the person in it."
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Multiple identical floors, press the wrong button in the lift while drunk (having necked a few on the way home), get off at the wrong floor but go to the "right" apartment? If, for example, she lives in 806 and the shooting happened in 506, that might make some kind of sense.

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That happened to me once, when I lived in my old apartment. It helped that mine was the apartment right next to the elevator in a relatively small building (only 4 units per floor), so I had little opportunity to notice any slight differences in the hallway.

Of course, I realized my mistake when the door didn't open, I didn't shoot anyone.
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She was drunk? Maybe but...

Is there any kind of police policy that forbids off-duty drinking while wearing your full officer uniform? I don't know the answer at all.
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She was drunk? Maybe but...

Is there any kind of police policy that forbids off-duty drinking while wearing your full officer uniform? I don't know the answer at all.
Its generally illegal for civilians to be drunk and in possession of a firearm. Whether that applies to police or not, I have no idea.
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That happened to me once, when I lived in my old apartment.
Just out of interest, were you drunk at the time?

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"after she tried unsuccessfully to open it."


That's the really worrying bit here. You could maybe see her being startled if she'd just walked in on the guy, but if the door wasn't opening, how the hell did she even get into a position to be able to shoot him? She must have been making active attempts to force the door, or demand he open it, and in that whole time, still never figured out she was in the wrong place.
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Just out of interest, were you drunk at the time?

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Probably. I was in my 20s, after all.
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Reports say she lives a quarter mile from the police station, FWIW.

The incident occurred just after 10pm and maybe her shift ended at 10pm, but we don't know. FWIW.
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Some articles say just after 10pm and some say just before.
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"after she tried unsuccessfully to open it."


That's the really worrying bit here. You could maybe see her being startled if she'd just walked in on the guy, but if the door wasn't opening, how the hell did she even get into a position to be able to shoot him? She must have been making active attempts to force the door, or demand he open it, and in that whole time, still never figured out she was in the wrong place.
Yeah. I've been trying to think of an instance of "tried the door on the wrong floor of an apartment building" that I've been in. I don't know if I have, but I'm thinking my response is, put the key in, it doesn't turn, I try to figure out why, I look at the apartment # and slap myself in the head and quietly move on, hoping that I didn't disturb anyone and that no one sees me.

Break the door down and shoot the person inside is not where I'm going.
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Address is 1210 S. Lamar Street, Dallas, TX. The building seems to be 4 floors but I have some doubts about it having an elevator. You can look on street view Google Maps.
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What do you do if you are sitting on your couch and someone starts banging on your door? You go look through the peephole and see who it is as you start to dial 911. Then you see that the person banging on the door is a cop so you open the door to see what the problem is.

****, that is a ****** up way to die in this already ****** up world.
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