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Well we know she isn't a POW so seems a strange example to pick. If you follow the thread of the conversation you'd see cullennz was talking about if she was brought back to the UK as a British citizen and was then put on trial, he seemed to be indicating her having a half decent lawyer would be wrong or a bad thing.
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This woman should not be allowed back into the UK if possible IMO. She is a threat to this country, even if she does nothing herself, she will be imprinting her child with the same disgusting beliefs she holds. She willingly left this country to go and join this medieval organisation. She knows full well the barbaric actions they have inflicted on the populations they infest, yet she still supports them.
going by this article: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...uropean-ruling The UK can strip citizenship from people. She wont be left without a state. She has made her bed with the Islamic State, whether they are recognised as such or not. |
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I think people are forgetting what might have happened between her leaving for jollies as 15 year old and now.
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"The thief and the murderer follow nature just as much as the philanthropist. Cosmic evolution may teach us how the good and the evil tendencies of man may have come about; but, in itself, it is incompetent to furnish any better reason why what we call good is preferable to what we call evil than we had before." "Evolution and Ethics" T.H. Huxley (1893) |
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"I mean, you've got the first sort of mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that's a story-book, man," Biden said. 2007 https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna16911044 |
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For those of you who miss the context (likely all of you), this is not a "whataboutism" or "you started it" argument, this comes while even "serious" BBC journalists expose the false flag nonsense against the Syrian government now, and their voices wouldn't reach your ear if it weren't for yours truly.
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"I mean, you've got the first sort of mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that's a story-book, man," Biden said. 2007 https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna16911044 |
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A couple of comments:
I have read elsewhere that apparently her father took her to hear the very radical speaker who was removed from this country. There was a legal person the other day pointing out that she cannot be 'brought' back, but if she presents herself, that is a different matter. |
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Sorry for being confusing. The yes was to the second question. We know this type of grooming takes time, takes a lot of communication etc, if a parent is not interested in keeping their child safe when online, allows a kid to travel abroad without their knowledge and so on I do consider that a failure of parenting. I don't expect parents to be able to remove all risks and to be able to 100% protect their children at all times but we are not talking about a kid being kidnapped off the street or being a victim to a random attack.
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This is hilarious
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Well BBC UK news this morning is that she has now given birth to a baby boy. Info apparetly comes from a lawwyer appointed by her family.
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It sounds bizarre, but on the other hand you only have to look in Gen Skep and the Paranormal to remind yourself that there are complete fantasists out there. Is it really that much different from people who think that their warm fuzzies mean that they are qualified to treat real people with real illnesses using handwaving, crystals or similar ********?
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Being British does not entitle you to a day in court in the UK. If you commit crimes abroad, you can be subject to the law abroad. Also, you are not entitled to be tried as a child just because you used to be one.
So, I ask again, given that it is irrelevant that she is British and used to be 15, why does she deserve to have her day in court in the UK? |
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It would be more interesting if you'd stop obsessing about that girl and face the general problem. Trump has just tweeted about it and threatens to simply release them so they can find their own way back to Europe. Also an alternative.
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Trump is right. He should do that. Maybe it would force our government to take action. There's no reason why we can't have a similar facility, and legislation to properly deal with returning terrorists. This girl is in the news because the media got to her purely by accident and it became a story. Several ISIS fighters return to the UK each week and nothing is done to stop them.
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The naiviety of this post is truly touching. First of all, are you suggesting someone applies for Bangladeshi citizenship on her behalf whilst she's laid up in a Kurdish controlled refuge camp?
Secondly, you ought to know, her parents/grandparents may have come to the UK as asylum seekers following on from the partition of Bengal and clashes between Hindus and Shikhs. Her parents may be ethnically Bangladeshi but are probably full British citizens.
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Ah, I suspect I am guilty of being a bit confusing too. My question..
probably was not clear enough. grooming has been around before the internet, your reply seems to be particular to this sort of case, you even said 'this type of grooming' in your response. I was interested in whether you thought all types of grooming have been allowed by their parents? |
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