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Merged The day the dinosaurs died/Claim: Fossil of dinosaur killed in asteroid strike found

A long long time ago
I cant remember when
Terrible lizards would make each other smile
And I knew If I had my chance
I'd blow away that comet with my lance
and they'd be happy for a while

But the Cretaceous event made me shiver
with all the deaths that it delivered

The day the dinosaurs died.....
 
Interesting article in The New Yorker Magazine

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2019/04/08/the-day-the-dinosaurs-died

An article about the discovery of a site containing fossils that almost certainly were directly killed by the Chicxulub impact. The site is also peppered with tektites and micro impact craters (similar to fossil ones seen from hailstones).
Maybe. I recognize the name. There is some controversy surrounding it. But if true it really is astonishing.
 
And the paper is out

https://www.pnas.org/content/early/2019/03/27/1817407116

Significance
The Chicxulub impact played a crucial role in the Cretaceous–Paleogene extinction. However the earliest postimpact effects, critical to fully decode the profound influence on Earth’s biota, are poorly understood due to a lack of high-temporal-resolution contemporaneous deposits. The Tanis site, which preserves a rapidly deposited, ejecta-bearing bed in the Hell Creek Formation, helps to resolve that long-standing deficit. Emplaced immediately (minutes to hours) after impact, Tanis provides a postimpact “snapshot,” including ejecta accretion and faunal mass death, advancing our understanding of the immediate effects of the Chicxulub impact. Moreover, we demonstrate that the depositional event, calculated to have coincided with the arrival of seismic waves from Chicxulub, likely resulted from a seismically coupled local seiche.

Abstract
The most immediate effects of the terminal-Cretaceous Chicxulub impact, essential to understanding the global-scale environmental and biotic collapses that mark the Cretaceous–Paleogene extinction, are poorly resolved despite extensive previous work. Here, we help to resolve this by describing a rapidly emplaced, high-energy onshore surge deposit from the terrestrial Hell Creek Formation in Montana. Associated ejecta and a cap of iridium-rich impactite reveal that its emplacement coincided with the Chicxulub event. Acipenseriform fish, densely packed in the deposit, contain ejecta spherules in their gills and were buried by an inland-directed surge that inundated a deeply incised river channel before accretion of the fine-grained impactite. Although this deposit displays all of the physical characteristics of a tsunami runup, the timing (<1 hour postimpact) is instead consistent with the arrival of strong seismic waves from the magnitude Mw ∼10 to 11 earthquake generated by the Chicxulub impact, identifying a seismically coupled seiche inundation as the likely cause. Our findings present high-resolution chronology of the immediate aftereffects of the Chicxulub impact event in the Western Interior, and report an impact-triggered onshore mix of marine and terrestrial sedimentation—potentially a significant advancement for eventually resolving both the complex dynamics of debris ejection and the full nature and extent of biotic disruptions that took place in the first moments postimpact.
 
The only inconsistency I fail to understand is how they can claim marine species were washed into the freshwater valley, yet in another part of the article it says the timing was off.
 
Millions of years ago, but they can set the timing of the Tsunami in Montana to one hour after impact at Chixtalatamimab ??? ( or did I confuse the crater with the latest cancer chemo?)
 
Interesting article in The New Yorker Magazine

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2019/04/08/the-day-the-dinosaurs-died

An article about the discovery of a site containing fossils that almost certainly were directly killed by the Chicxulub impact. The site is also peppered with tektites and micro impact craters (similar to fossil ones seen from hailstones).

99.9999% of all life on Earth died? I find that hard to believe given the rest of the data I've seen. I don't know what his source is for that. And there's some weird stuff in the article, like calling a mushroom "signature" of nuclear explosions, which is pretty silly but typical of media reporting about nuclear weapons.
 
Millions of years ago, but they can set the timing of the Tsunami in Montana to one hour after impact at Chixtalatamimab ??? ( or did I confuse the crater with the latest cancer chemo?)

The spherules in the gills apparently chemically match the type ejected by the Chicxulub impact, which are found all over the place. So that places it soon after the impact. Then I think they did a quick calculation about how quickly a shockwave and resultant tidal surge would take.
 
A long long time ago
I cant remember when
Terrible lizards would make each other smile
And I knew If I had my chance
I'd blow away that comet with my lance
and they'd be happy for a while

But the Cretaceous event made me shiver
with all the deaths that it delivered

The day the dinosaurs died.....


So philkensebben, please tell the court what exactly happened when you arrived at the levee, just after midnight, after you parked your Chevy? And what was your reaction when you realized that the bunch of good ol' boys drinking whiskey 'n rye that night whom you normally party with were not a bunch of good ol' boys at all, but were, in fact and according to your own testimony, " a bunch of drunken ******* dinosaurs"?!! That enraged you, didn't it? And that's when you decided that they had to be silenced forever?!!!
 
Daddy was a theropod.
On the east side of Laramidia.
Back in the USA.
Back in the bad old days.

The night the dinos died.
Na na na na na na na na na na na na na.
 
Claim: Fossil of dinosaur killed in asteroid strike found

I've read a few things about the Tanis dig site because I live in North Dakota. The site is 1 of 5 things that North Dakota has that's even slightly interesting. It got even more interesting recently if the following is true. Per the BBC:

Scientists have presented a stunningly preserved leg of a dinosaur.

The limb, complete with skin, is just one of a series of remarkable finds emerging from the Tanis fossil site in the US State of North Dakota.

...

The claim is the Tanis creatures were killed and entombed on the actual day a giant asteroid struck Earth.

The site is going to be shown in an upcoming BBC documentary, but I don't think this new discovery will be included since it's set to air in a week or so.

While that leg is the headliner there were also some other amazing finds.

Along with that leg, there are fish that breathed in impact debris as it rained down from the sky.

We see a fossil turtle that was skewered by a wooden stake; the remains of small mammals and the burrows they made; skin from a horned triceratops; the embryo of a flying pterosaur inside its egg; and what appears to be a fragment from the asteroid impactor itself.

All-in-all a pretty amazing discovery. I can't wait to see what else they pull out of there in the upcoming months and years. I also now have a desire to play Jurassic Park tonight after work.
 
Thank you for today's Wikipedia rabbit hole. I hope the BBC show is on YouTube eventually. Or PBS.
I'm originally from Montana, but will refrain from making a North Dakota joke.
 
The site is apparently somewhat controversial in the paleontology community. The initial announcement, in 2019 if I recall correctly, was via an article in The New Yorker, which annoyed a lot of the paleontologists. The BBC article references this, and quotes a paleontologist who remarks that the dinosaur leg isn't necessarily a result of the impact (could be an animal that was buried at another time, and perhaps exhumed by the events of the impact). He does say that the microspheres in the fish gills are pretty much a guaranteed indicator, though.
 
Thank you for today's Wikipedia rabbit hole. I hope the BBC show is on YouTube eventually. Or PBS.
I'm originally from Montana, but will refrain from making a North Dakota joke.

I don't know what part of Montana you are from, but the eastern half or more of Montana is pretty much indistinguishable from North Dakota. The western part of it is another story entirely (I could say something pretty similar regarding my home state of Colorado vs. Nebraska or Kansas.).
 
Thank you for today's Wikipedia rabbit hole. I hope the BBC show is on YouTube eventually. Or PBS.
I'm originally from Montana, but will refrain from making a North Dakota joke.

North Dakota is the joke lol

The site is apparently somewhat controversial in the paleontology community. The initial announcement, in 2019 if I recall correctly, was via an article in The New Yorker, which annoyed a lot of the paleontologists. The BBC article references this, and quotes a paleontologist who remarks that the dinosaur leg isn't necessarily a result of the impact (could be an animal that was buried at another time, and perhaps exhumed by the events of the impact). He does say that the microspheres in the fish gills are pretty much a guaranteed indicator, though.

I had read a few articles today, so I'm not sure which one had the quote, but one of the people involved in the study said they thought the leg was involved due to the positioning in comparison to the other finds (the fish, etc.). I'll see if I can track it down again.

I'd come across the site before - thread here

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=335634


Thanks for the update

Feel free to merge it. I did a fairly brief search but must have missed that one.
 
North Dakota is the joke lol



I had read a few articles today, so I'm not sure which one had the quote, but one of the people involved in the study said they thought the leg was involved due to the positioning in comparison to the other finds (the fish, etc.). I'll see if I can track it down again.



Feel free to merge it. I did a fairly brief search but must have missed that one.

Well it was 3 years old, and I have only just put tags in. :)

But done
 
BBC Science update on this:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m00162zf


And from our planet's present and future to its ancient past. Scientists working on the Tanis fossil site in North Dakota in the US have dug up a dinosaur's leg, complete with skin and scales. Is this 66-million-year-old fossil, alongside similar nearby victims, the key to unveiling those transformative minutes after the infamous Chicxulub asteroid struck the earth and ended the era of the dinosaurs? BBC science correspondent Jonathan Amos has seen the fossil and speaks with Paul Barrett of London's Natural History Museum about the significance of this un-reviewed new finds.

As an aside, it's one of my favourite approaches to science journalism. 3x ten-minute interviews with experts, by an interviewer who is at worst at the level of a knowledgeable layperson in the specific* subject, and who assumes the audience are too.


*sometimes the regular interviewer has a doctorate in that area
 
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The only inconsistency I fail to understand is how they can claim marine species were washed into the freshwater valley, yet in another part of the article it says the timing was off.

Might not relevant, but North Dakota used to be an ocean.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Interior_Seaway

220px-Map_of_North_America_with_the_Western_Interior_Seaway_during_the_Campanian_%28Upper_Cretaceous%29.png


Edit: Got to that part of the article:

He recalled the moment of discovery. The first fossil he removed, earlier that summer, was a five-foot-long freshwater paddlefish. Paddlefish still live today; they have a long bony snout, with which they probe murky water in search of food. When DePalma took out the fossil, he found underneath it a tooth from a mosasaur, a giant carnivorous marine reptile. He wondered how a freshwater fish and a marine reptile could have ended up in the same place, on a riverbank at least several miles inland from the nearest sea. (At the time, a shallow body of water, called the Western Interior Seaway, ran from the proto-*Gulf of Mexico up through part of North America.) The next day, he found a two-foot-wide tail from another marine fish; it looked as if it had been violently ripped from the fish’s body. “If the fish is dead for any length of time, those tails decay and fall apart,” DePalma said. But this one was perfectly intact, “so I knew that it was transported at the time of death or around then.” Like the mosasaur tooth, it had somehow ended up miles inland from the sea of its origin. “When I found that, I thought, There’s no way, this can’t be right,” DePalma said. The discoveries hinted at an extraordinary conclusion that he wasn’t quite ready to accept. “I was ninety-eight per cent con*vinced at that point,” he said.
 
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