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The usual insane lies, delusions, insults, etc. already addressed over the last 10 years.
The insane insults of the deceased Michael Francis A'Hearn by Sol88 linking him with demented dogma, etc. Sol88's lies about the demented SAFIRE experiment about the Sun and a scientific experiment about the solar wind and Parker spiral Yet more propaganda from the Thunderbolts cult on the insane SAFIRE project. That conversation with Monty exposed that the already insane SAFIRE project is even more insane than collapsing the Sun to a white dwarf ![]() Plasma has been explained to Sol88 many times over the last 10 or more years but he is too interested in drinking his cult's poison to understand that plasma is a partially ionized gas that is quasi-neutral. ![]() Sol88's totally insane lie repeated over many years that we have no mainstream model of comets when he has been citing papers on the mainstream model of ices and dust comets for many years. Many of these paper begin with an introduction stating comets are made of ices and dust and formed in the early Solar System! The papers he has cited on comet coma and tails state that coma and tail gases come from sublimating ices. He has cited a paper with 67P has a dust to ice mass ratio of between 3 and 7, i.e. between 14% and 33% ices. He has cited papers in the measured priority of 67P (about 70% and thus matching ices and dust comets). He has cited papers with jets from the dark side of comets as predicted by the mainstream model of comets. etc. etc. ETA: Sol88's "Dirtysnowball" insanity pops up in a later post. Minor insanity : Sol88 has never been able to correlctly spell the descriptive name of Whipple's 1950's model - the "dirty snowball" model. Major insanity : Sol88 has the insane delusion that science does not progress. This is no surprise since his demented cult's dogma has been set in stone for maybe 45 years ![]() The current mainstream ices and dust comet model is Whipple's model expanded and modified to include 70 years of empirical data and progress in physics. A relatively minor modification is there is evidence that at least 2 comets have more dust then ices so Whipple's model may be better described as an "icy dirtball" model. Sol88's usual insanity to derail from Sol88's insane religious dogma that comets are actual rock (no ices or a demented fantasy of "little ices") blasted from rocky planets by electric discharges between planets including recent times (witnessed by us!) and that these rocks discharge in a massive solar electric field. This insanely tears the rock apart and puts gas and dust into the coma and forms their insanity of jets as electrical discharges ![]() Sol88's utterly insane lies repeated for years and here:
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“No rock. Any charge separation is limited. The electric field is pointing in the wrong direction. Currents are doing nothing.” Jonesdave116. “The 'electric comet' is physically IMPOSSIBLE to model using mainstream science! PERIOD! True story! End of story!” Indagator |
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“No rock. Any charge separation is limited. The electric field is pointing in the wrong direction. Currents are doing nothing.” Jonesdave116. “The 'electric comet' is physically IMPOSSIBLE to model using mainstream science! PERIOD! True story! End of story!” Indagator |
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“No rock. Any charge separation is limited. The electric field is pointing in the wrong direction. Currents are doing nothing.” Jonesdave116. “The 'electric comet' is physically IMPOSSIBLE to model using mainstream science! PERIOD! True story! End of story!” Indagator |
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So, still lying about dirtysnowballs, as well. Do your lies never end? Is that all you are left with after your woo disappeared down the drain 14 years ago? Sad.
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Dude, comets. for the mainstream are...
Dirtysnowballs? Icydirtballs? What are they, pony up champ. |
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“No rock. Any charge separation is limited. The electric field is pointing in the wrong direction. Currents are doing nothing.” Jonesdave116. “The 'electric comet' is physically IMPOSSIBLE to model using mainstream science! PERIOD! True story! End of story!” Indagator |
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The usual insane lies, delusions, insults, etc. already addressed over the last 10 years.
The insane insults of the deceased Michael Francis A'Hearn by Sol88 linking him with demented dogma, etc. Sol88's lies about the demented SAFIRE experiment about the Sun and a scientific experiment about the solar wind and Parker spiral Yet more propaganda from the Thunderbolts cult on the insane SAFIRE project. That conversation with Monty exposed that the already insane SAFIRE project is even more insane than collapsing the Sun to a white dwarf ![]() Plasma has been explained to Sol88 many times over the last 10 or more years but he is too interested in drinking his cult's poison to understand that plasma is a partially ionized gas that is quasi-neutral. ![]() Sol88's totally insane lie repeated over many years that we have no mainstream model of comets when he cites papers on the mainstream model ![]() Sol88's totally insane lie that "The nucleus is thus a highly porous very dusty body with very little ice." is Sol88's insanity of comets being actual rock ![]() Sol88's usual insanity. MUPUS did make progress - it hammered into the surface until the hammer got to the layer consistent with sintered ice. Sol88's insane lie that RSI measured porosity (it was CONSERT as I wrote and supported with a source) Sol88's insane lie that his quote is from a RSI paper. Sol88's insane lie that "The nucleus is thus a highly porous very dusty body with very little ice." is Sol88's insanity of comets being actual rock. Repeated enough to be recorded permanently above. |
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“No rock. Any charge separation is limited. The electric field is pointing in the wrong direction. Currents are doing nothing.” Jonesdave116. “The 'electric comet' is physically IMPOSSIBLE to model using mainstream science! PERIOD! True story! End of story!” Indagator |
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No it hit ROCK! Where is this magical sintered ice in a comet? the ice that made MUPUS not make ANY progress - "The nucleus is thus a highly porous very dusty body with very little ice." but the magic ice stopped the hammer, the hammer that was designed to hammer into ice??? |
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Philae settles in dust-covered ice (18 November 2014)
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The usual insane lies, delusions, insults, etc. already addressed over the last 10 years.
The insane insults of the deceased Michael Francis A'Hearn by Sol88 linking him with demented dogma, etc. Sol88's lies about the demented SAFIRE experiment about the Sun and a scientific experiment about the solar wind and Parker spiral Yet more propaganda from the Thunderbolts cult on the insane SAFIRE project. That conversation with Monty exposed that the already insane SAFIRE project is even more insane than collapsing the Sun to a white dwarf ![]() Plasma has been explained to Sol88 many times over the last 10 or more years but he is too interested in drinking his cult's poison to understand that plasma is a partially ionized gas that is quasi-neutral. ![]() Sol88's totally insane lie repeated over many years that we have no mainstream model of comets when he cites papers on the mainstream model ![]() Sol88's totally insane lie that "The nucleus is thus a highly porous very dusty body with very little ice." is Sol88's insanity of comets being actual rock ![]() Sol88's utterly insane lie for over 4 years that MUPUS hammered into actual rock. The science starting form 31 Jul 2015 says he is lying: A sintered near-surface microporous dust-ice layer with a porosity of 30 to 65% is consistent with the data. No rock has ever been found on or in comets as in the quote he has repeated many times! Sol88's persistent insanity of not understanding the difference between the surface of a comet nucleus and its interior. The porosity of the inside of 67P was measured by CONSORT to be 75–85%. CONSERT probes the nucleus of comet 67P/C-G MUPUS probed the first few centimeters] of the surface (through dust and a few millimeters of ice)of 56P. MUPUS gave an limit to the tensile strength of the surface layers - not a porosity measurement. Sol88's usual insanity to derail from Sol88's insane religious dogma that comets are actual rock (no ices or a demented fantasy of "little ices") blasted from rocky planets by electric discharges between planets including recent times (witnessed by us!) and that these rocks discharge in a massive solar electric field. This insanely tears the rock apart and puts gas and dust into the coma and forms their insanity of jets as electrical discharges ![]() Sol88 usual insane lies about basic physics. We expect the ices on cometary surfaces to be sintered because they undergo a cycle of heating and cooling that creates sintering ![]() |
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Facepalm!
Your task - which you’ve been dodging since forever - is to show that the Electric Comet idea is consistent quantitatively with all relevant observations. Time to put up or shut up, wouldn’t you say? Oh, and there can’t be any carbonates or clays, because these require, and contain, a lot of water. And High Priest Talbott has declared that comets are dry as dry can be. |
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Slight correction: "Oh, and there can’t be any carbonates or clays, because these require, and contain, a lot of water" in the electric comet insanity.
Back in 2005, we detected carbonates and clays (and ices!) from Deep Impact on Tempel 1. The dust grains collected by Stardust from Wild 2 did not have carbonates or clays. The logical conclusion is that the comets have different histories. Tempel 1 may have formed in an area of the early outer Solar System enriched with dust from the inner system (higher temperatures so liquid water). Tempel 1 may have roamed closer to the Sun and heated up to form liquid water. Tempel 1 may have had a large impact that heated it to make liquid water. Wild 2 did the none of these. |
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Not a problem if they were once part of a planet!
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Comets are as dry as a dead dingos donger! you are aware asteroids contain more water than comet! Comets and asteroids are a continuum. Bennu
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Or they were "ejected" from their parent bodies, these would be expected to be of different composition. I mean if mainstream can invoke the following
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Impact is my guess, this is the standard excuse! bit like tangled magnetic fields powering magnetic reconection.... ![]() No need for fairetale creation stories! maybe it was the left overs from Gods last snowball fight, prove me wrong! |
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“No rock. Any charge separation is limited. The electric field is pointing in the wrong direction. Currents are doing nothing.” Jonesdave116. “The 'electric comet' is physically IMPOSSIBLE to model using mainstream science! PERIOD! True story! End of story!” Indagator |
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So,
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Rocky Comets are icy dirtballs!!!
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Michael F. A’Hearn Not too sure what A'Hearn was on about! So icydirtyballs maybe misleading as well.
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Except active asteroids otherwise they'd be comets! |
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“No rock. Any charge separation is limited. The electric field is pointing in the wrong direction. Currents are doing nothing.” Jonesdave116. “The 'electric comet' is physically IMPOSSIBLE to model using mainstream science! PERIOD! True story! End of story!” Indagator |
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Ahhh, there's your problem
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How about you get the formation of the solar system story wright first (with out invoking planetary migrations) Good luck. |
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“No rock. Any charge separation is limited. The electric field is pointing in the wrong direction. Currents are doing nothing.” Jonesdave116. “The 'electric comet' is physically IMPOSSIBLE to model using mainstream science! PERIOD! True story! End of story!” Indagator |
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No granite found on comets.
No basalt found on comets. No limestone found on comets. No sandstone found on comets. No chalk found on comets. No carbonates found on at least 1 comet. No clays found on at least 1 comet. Have a coffee champ! |
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No, you have no idea. Science is a foreign country to you. All of your woo has been shown to be scientifically impossible rubbish. You have no coherent model. Zilch. You are just another clueless internet crank, who has been duped by other cranks. None of whom know Jack about science. Quite sad and pathetic, really.
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No limestone found on comets. Limestone = calcium carbonate No carbonates found on at least 1 comet. Reality Checks original post It is yes to carbonates and no to limestone? |
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Really??
off topic but how do super Jupiter orbit so close to their parent star? More ad hocness! Mainstream are just guessing... this is now how science is done. Best guess using some very complicated mathamagincs to make it "work"! Best you leave the big questions till you worked out what comets are. |
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where was it formed, Who cares,
What is the D/H ratio of water on various comets? With all that electrochemistry going on, you'd expect some funky stuff! Still funny how mainstream try and relate comets formation to solar system formation. The solar system formation is a nice campfire story! In the Electric Universe... you know the story Proven electric currents and electric fields, make me one happy ELECTRIC COMET SUPPORTER. You're more than welcome to entertain ideas from the era before we had been out into the plasma universe! |
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