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The insane insults of the deceased Michael Francis A'Hearn by Sol88 linking him with demented dogma, etc. Sol88's lies about the demented SAFIRE experiment about the Sun and a scientific experiment about the solar wind and Parker spiral Yet more propaganda from the Thunderbolts cult on the insane SAFIRE project. Soil88's usual insane ignorance of physics that has been explained to him time and time again over the last over 10 years. |
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Tusenfem and I had a long discussion on MHD and its applicability to comets.
Some crappy excuse about approximation being ok...pffttt ![]() I mean no one here is qualified enough to answer 3 very simple questions. ![]()
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How'd the use of approximations turn out here RPC-MIP observations at comet 67P/Churyumov-Gerasimenko explained by a model including a sheath and two populations of electrons Tusenfem what's this model including a sheath and two populations of electrons. The dirtysnowball model? you know
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The insane insults of the deceased Michael Francis A'Hearn by Sol88 linking him with demented dogma, etc. Sol88's lies about the demented SAFIRE experiment about the Sun and a scientific experiment about the solar wind and Parker spiral Yet more propaganda from the Thunderbolts cult on the insane SAFIRE project. That conversation with Monty exposed that the already insane SAFIRE project is even more insane than collapsing the Sun to a white dwarf ![]() Sol88's usual insane questions and insane lies. tusenfem works on comets and certainly is qualified to answer serious questions. Other posters here can read and so could answer Sol88's questions. But we all know that Sol88's questions are insane exposures of his denial of reality and derails from his demented cult's dogma. Anyone who believes in their demented insanity is incapable of understanding the real world. Sol88 after over 10 years is still in denial of the simple arithmetic that we measure the average density of comets to be ~0.6 g/cc and average density of asteroids to be ~3.0 g/cc. They are not the same ![]() |
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The RPC-MAG view of Rosetta’s tail excursion at comet 67P/Churyumov–Gerasimenko New and exciting physics! Keep 'em coming! ![]() |
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“No rock. Any charge separation is limited. The electric field is pointing in the wrong direction. Currents are doing nothing.” Jonesdave116. “The 'electric comet' is physically IMPOSSIBLE to model using mainstream science! PERIOD! True story! End of story!” Indagator |
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The usual insane lies, delusions, insults, etc. already addressed over the last 10 years.
The insane insults of the deceased Michael Francis A'Hearn by Sol88 linking him with demented dogma, etc. Sol88's lies about the demented SAFIRE experiment about the Sun and a scientific experiment about the solar wind and Parker spiral Yet more propaganda from the Thunderbolts cult on the insane SAFIRE project. That conversation with Monty exposed that the already insane SAFIRE project is even more insane than collapsing the Sun to a white dwarf ![]() Sol88's usual insanity of citing mainstream ices and dust comet papers and lying about them. |
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The usual insane lies, delusions, insults, etc. already addressed over the last 10 years.
The insane insults of the deceased Michael Francis A'Hearn by Sol88 linking him with demented dogma, etc. Sol88's lies about the demented SAFIRE experiment about the Sun and a scientific experiment about the solar wind and Parker spiral Yet more propaganda from the Thunderbolts cult on the insane SAFIRE project. That conversation with Monty exposed that the already insane SAFIRE project is even more insane than collapsing the Sun to a white dwarf ![]() Sol88's insanity about the Haser model raises its ugly head yet again. The Haser model is a rather old (maybe updated) way of calculating the daughter products from sublimating ices. The production rate Q of the parent species is plugged into the model and it gives the amount of the daughter product. See the often cited here A re-evaluation of the Haser model scale lengths for comets (1985) Sol88's insanity was that Q is an output. Sol88's latest insanity to add to his collection seems to be that any approximation makes results invalid. The1957 Haser model assumes that the coma is spherically symmetrical. |
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The 1957 Haser model assumes that the coma is spherically symmetrical? Sounds familiar, mmmm.....oh yeah
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Complete gibberish. And nothing to do with what I asked. What has the Haser model got to do with the Sun obeying the ideal gas law? And yes, it is fine to use when viewing the whole coma from a distance.
What new sheath model? No double layers seen. Bit late to detect them now. The mission is over, in case you hadn't noticed. And SAFIRE has uncovered nothing. It is nothing to do with the Sun. |
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So the sun being 100% plasma is modeled with ideal gas laws?? As per reality checks assertion that SAFIRE would turn out star into a white dwarf. You pressure balancing gravity malarkey. So consider me edumucated on a plasma is a gas, a gas is not a plasma. And we are now all edumacted on plasma observes the gas laws, why not ... simple in a star that’s all ionised gas, a plasma. |
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Dude, you really do struggle with the basics
Yawn... since reality check is 100% certain using the standard model of stellar evolution and based on known physics, one would have white dwarfs everywhere. What about a force that follows plasma laws. I’d take notice too, if I were you reality check.
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The usual insane lies, delusions, insults, etc. already addressed over the last 10 years.
The insane insults of the deceased Michael Francis A'Hearn by Sol88 linking him with demented dogma, etc. Sol88's lies about the demented SAFIRE experiment about the Sun and a scientific experiment about the solar wind and Parker spiral Yet more propaganda from the Thunderbolts cult on the insane SAFIRE project. That conversation with Monty exposed that the already insane SAFIRE project is even more insane than collapsing the Sun to a white dwarf ![]() Sol88's insanity of confirming his demented delusional that using approximations invalidates physics. Sol88's usual insane insults of the deceased Michael Francis A'Hearn. Sol88's usual insane lies. Modern science is based on current models and current approximations as in the paper he cites ![]() Sol88's usual insanity of citing and lying about ice and dust comet papers. Sol88's utter insanity of emphasizing that his demented cult dogma has only insane fantasies by citing real science with models that match the real world of comets ![]() RPC-MIP observations at comet 67P/Churyumov-Gerasimenko explained by a model including a sheath and two populations of electrons Where is Sol88's cult's scientific model explaining the RPC-MIP observations or any observation of any comet? |
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The usual insane lies, delusions, insults, etc. already addressed over the last 10 years.
The insane insults of the deceased Michael Francis A'Hearn by Sol88 linking him with demented dogma, etc. Sol88's lies about the demented SAFIRE experiment about the Sun and a scientific experiment about the solar wind and Parker spiral Yet more propaganda from the Thunderbolts cult on the insane SAFIRE project. That conversation with Monty exposed that the already insane SAFIRE project is even more insane than collapsing the Sun to a white dwarf ![]() Sol88's usual insane questions and insane double layer delusions to derail from his demented cult's dogma. |
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The usual insane lies, delusions, insults, etc. already addressed over the last 10 years.
The insane insults of the deceased Michael Francis A'Hearn by Sol88 linking him with demented dogma, etc. Sol88's lies about the demented SAFIRE experiment about the Sun and a scientific experiment about the solar wind and Parker spiral Yet more propaganda from the Thunderbolts cult on the insane SAFIRE project. That conversation with Monty exposed that the already insane SAFIRE project is even more insane than collapsing the Sun to a white dwarf ![]() Sol88's usual insults and insane lies to derail from his demented cult's dogma. Sol88's usual insane lies about other posts. I wrote that his insane SAFIRE project about the Sun turns the Sun (a single star) into a white dwarf. It is textbook astronomy that stars around the mass of the Sun turn into white dwarfs when their fusion runs out. It is this textbook physics that Sol88 and his demented cult denies. We do see white dwarfs "everywhere" ![]() Sol88 insanely asks "What about a force that follows plasma laws" showing yet again that he is utterly in denial of the electric part of his demented cult dogma. Plasma obey the gas laws at large scales like stars with the electromagnetic force acting between the perhaps few ions among the neutral atoms at low scales such meters and less. That is the "plasma laws"! Sol88 insanely quotes something about galactic plasma - the Sun is not a galaxy ![]() Sol88 insanely quotes something about collapsing gases. That quote supports textbook astronomy! Collapsing clouds of gas collapse until balanced by thermal pressure. We call the result a star ![]() |
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Oh my friend...
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The usual insane lies, delusions, insults, etc. already addressed over the last 10 years.
The insane insults of the deceased Michael Francis A'Hearn by Sol88 linking him with demented dogma, etc. Sol88's lies about the demented SAFIRE experiment about the Sun and a scientific experiment about the solar wind and Parker spiral Yet more propaganda from the Thunderbolts cult on the insane SAFIRE project. That conversation with Monty exposed that the already insane SAFIRE project is even more insane than collapsing the Sun to a white dwarf ![]() Sol88's usual insanity. I am not friends with a gullible fool who has parroted the obviously insane dogma of a demented cult for decades and shows how demented the cult is by spewing out utter ignorance, demented delusions, insane insults and blatant lies. Just read the insanity Sol88 has written his last few posts. Similar insanity appears over the last 10 years in this thread, e.g. he has been given the textbook physics of plasma many, many times. Apparently Sol88 started off vomiting out his demented cult's dogma on other forum over 12 years ago. |
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I do not understand the science?
Ummmmm...is the Sun a Gas or a Plasma? ![]() Talking about KNOWN PHYSICS, Beta (plasma physics) is this crackpottery or KNOWN PHYSICS? So the statement by the Thunderbolts team,
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Again GAS or PLASMA and common physical mechanism, lets see... Beta (plasma physics). Gas laws for plasma structures! ![]() Gas light era physics in an ELECTRIC UNIVERSE! |
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The usual insane lies, delusions, insults, etc. already addressed over the last 10 years.
The insane insults of the deceased Michael Francis A'Hearn by Sol88 linking him with demented dogma, etc. Sol88's lies about the demented SAFIRE experiment about the Sun and a scientific experiment about the solar wind and Parker spiral Yet more propaganda from the Thunderbolts cult on the insane SAFIRE project. That conversation with Monty exposed that the already insane SAFIRE project is even more insane than collapsing the Sun to a white dwarf ![]() A spate of Sol88's usual insanity.
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So then answers his own inane question! In a gas you need gravity in plasma you don't! Not sure why you still think the Sun is gas??? Strange. SAFIRE deal with plasma not gas... |
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The usual insane lies, delusions, insults, etc. already addressed over the last 10 years.
The insane insults of the deceased Michael Francis A'Hearn by Sol88 linking him with demented dogma, etc. Sol88's lies about the demented SAFIRE experiment about the Sun and a scientific experiment about the solar wind and Parker spiral Yet more propaganda from the Thunderbolts cult on the insane SAFIRE project. That conversation with Monty exposed that the already insane SAFIRE project is even more insane than collapsing the Sun to a white dwarf ![]() Sol88's usual insane lies about posts and physics. Lie 1: It was Sol88 cited beta and insanely lied about beta (is a definition, is a ratio not a :balance"). I merely quoted his citation. Lie 2: The definition of beta does not say that gravity is not needed in plasma. It is a definition of a plasma concept. Lie 3: I did not write the Sun is a gas - the Sun is plasma. It is plasma that obeys the gas laws. Sol88's insanity includes that plasma does not obey gas laws. Sol88's insanity includes that plasma is not quasi-neutral. Sol88's insanity includes persisting in insane ignorance of basic physics. Gravity is needed to collapse a cloud of gas or a cloud of plasma ![]() |
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2. Gravity not needed at all in plasma, only for the gas laws. e.g Stars collapsing to form white dwarfs ![]() 3. You wrote SAFIRE would have the Sun collapse into white dwarf! You need a sun made of gas for that. So funny... |
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The insane insults of the deceased Michael Francis A'Hearn by Sol88 linking him with demented dogma, etc. Sol88's lies about the demented SAFIRE experiment about the Sun and a scientific experiment about the solar wind and Parker spiral Yet more propaganda from the Thunderbolts cult on the insane SAFIRE project. That conversation with Monty exposed that the already insane SAFIRE project is even more insane than collapsing the Sun to a white dwarf ![]() No need to address Sol88's usual insane lies about physics and posts. |
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