Opinion : What Disgusts me the Most

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"Depression is all in your head."

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I have lived 14 years in his world and many things disgust me in modern day society. However some stand out above the rest. Here is one of them :

This is Nicole Arbour. She's a YouTuber with over 400K subscribers, even though she releases many controversial videos there is one where she claims that Depression is nothing but a made up concept.

In this video, Nicole suggests Depression is very beatable, and that we should express how happiness is a choice, rather than place emphasis on depression being an actual mental illness. In essence, she implies depression is merely a fantasy

She continues to explain that in an era where mankind is revolutionizing technology and luxuries are flourishing, one simply should not be depressed.

She expresses how she's heard of every possible argument a victim may have against her opinion, and states Depression is something you can just get over. Apparently, escaping Depression is an easy decision you make just when you snap your fingers.

In spite of her attitude toward the audience, as she flaunted her faultless ability to oppose the idea that Depression is a legitimate illness, Arbour knew the onslaught that was coming and disabled the comments, likes and dislikes for her video. She contradicted herself and couldn't face the backlash, which she knew was coming.

Nicole gives four "quick tips" to get over Depression and denies the need of anti-depressants in our society. Although she isn't wrong about incorporating positivity being majorly beneficial to your mental health, she puts across her thoughts in an overly condescending manner.

I am disgusted by people who use their popularity to dish out false information, or to give off that negativity and fear to hundreds of thousands of people.

Videos like this make it more difficult for those who do suffer from mental health problems to open up, for fear they will be told to just "get over it". The truth is, Depression doesn't give you a choice when it decides to take over.

Being someone who has felt overwhelmingly helpless no matter what I did, including her four tips, I was deeply hurt by the video. I suddenly felt as though I had no right to feel the way I did.

And no one deserves to feel like that.
 
As someone who has suffered clinical depression earlier in life and now work in a job where it's important to understand the physical responses to stress and the connection between the two, let me just tell you: this girl is wrong.

That said, don't worry about what some dumb person says on Youtube. There are many disgusting things in the world.
 
But, depression *is* all in the head. Duh! ;)

Seriously, this person in the OP is clueless. There are a lot of clueless people in the world that think their thinking applies to everyone. Sadly, she will do harm with this nonsense. It is for such people that I wish Hell were real, then she might finally grasp what a terror Clinical Depression actually is.
 
The Greater Fool said:
But, depression *is* all in the head. Duh! ;)

Seriously, this person in the OP is clueless. There are a lot of clueless people in the world that think their thinking applies to everyone. Sadly, she will do harm with this nonsense. It is for such people that I wish Hell were real, then she might finally grasp what a terror Clinical Depression actually is.
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I just wish everyone would unsubscribe from her.
 
A lot of people think that because something has never happened to them, it doesn't really happen. It's a really infuriating mindset, but it's surprisingly common. It's not just with mental illness, either.

For example, there exists a small portion of the population (5-10%) who have NEVER had a headache in their lives. Severely lucky bastards. I met one of them once, and he ended up telling me that he believes headaches are a myth or that most people imagine them! I had to just walk away wordlessly, because the stupidity was so intense that it made me want to implode.

This Youtube woman, whoever she is, pisses me off. If this is the kind of stuff she says, then she is an ignorant *******. Just ignore her, OP. You can't control what other people subscribe to. All you can do is counter bad information with facts if anyone ever tries to argue with you about it directly.
 
uke2se said:
That said, don't worry about what some dumb person says on Youtube. There are many disgusting things in the world.
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No, do worry, worry very much. Someone with 400,000 people following her, and likely quite a few more viewing, clearly has an audience. Maybe not as big an audience as, say, Jenny McCarthy; but not trivial either. She's contributing to the victim-blaming and stigmatization of mentally ill people that is rampant in our culture; and needs to be strenuously opposed when possible.

Social media outlets like Youtube have become the de facto cultural platforms, taking over from more traditional media like television and radio; and are more effective at propagating memes both helpful and harmful. People like her create self-reinforcing quasi-echo-chambers, and debunking their nonsense is difficult.

There are a lot of woos like her, and they mostly reference and reinforce each other, giving each other the appearance of legitimacy, particularly amongst the uninformed and uncritical. Just the "mere exposure effect" alone lends them an air of credence if you're not thinking critically enough (which most people don't).

In a world where mental health care is difficult to obtain, and mentally ill people are treated very poorly overall by the dominant culture, people like are something we should definitely worry about.
 
isissxn said:
A lot of people think that because something has never happened to them, it doesn't really happen. It's a really infuriating mindset, but it's surprisingly common. It's not just with mental illness, either.

For example, there exists a small portion of the population (5-10%) who have NEVER had a headache in their lives. Severely lucky bastards. I met one of them once, and he ended up telling me that he believes headaches are a myth or that most people imagine them! I had to just walk away wordlessly, because the stupidity was so intense that it made me want to implode.

This Youtube woman, whoever she is, pisses me off. If this is the kind of stuff she says, then she is an ignorant *******. Just ignore her, OP. You can't control what other people subscribe to. All you can do is counter bad information with facts if anyone ever tries to argue with you about it directly.
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This is my mom. She ran a business and had no sympathy for her employees when they got sick. She had never had a sinus infection, ear infection, or really anything more serious than a cold. The first time she got a sinus infection it put her out for a week. She wouldn't stop talking about how terrible her sinus infection was and that she almost went to the hospital. Of course, only her sinus infection was serious. Her employees were not impressed.
 
BTW, if you are feeling depressed and a bit helpless about it, please talk to your parents or someone at school. There is help and you can feel a bit more in control, even if you still have depression. Don't give up just because of this one stupid video. Please.
 
alfaniner said:
I can forgive ignorance, but not willful ignorance. Or malice.
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Honest ignorance is one thing; we are all ignorant on some subjects. That's fixable. But willful ignorance..not knowing because you choose not to know...that is really hard to fix.
 
ShortHaxYT said:
"Depression is all in your head."

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I have lived 14 years in his world and many things disgust me in modern day society. However some stand out above the rest. Here is one of them :

This is Nicole Arbour. She's a YouTuber with over 400K subscribers, even though she releases many controversial videos there is one where she claims that Depression is nothing but a made up concept.

In this video, Nicole suggests Depression is very beatable, and that we should express how happiness is a choice, rather than place emphasis on depression being an actual mental illness. In essence, she implies depression is merely a fantasy

She continues to explain that in an era where mankind is revolutionizing technology and luxuries are flourishing, one simply should not be depressed.

She expresses how she's heard of every possible argument a victim may have against her opinion, and states Depression is something you can just get over. Apparently, escaping Depression is an easy decision you make just when you snap your fingers.

In spite of her attitude toward the audience, as she flaunted her faultless ability to oppose the idea that Depression is a legitimate illness, Arbour knew the onslaught that was coming and disabled the comments, likes and dislikes for her video. She contradicted herself and couldn't face the backlash, which she knew was coming.

Nicole gives four "quick tips" to get over Depression and denies the need of anti-depressants in our society. Although she isn't wrong about incorporating positivity being majorly beneficial to your mental health, she puts across her thoughts in an overly condescending manner.

I am disgusted by people who use their popularity to dish out false information, or to give off that negativity and fear to hundreds of thousands of people.

Videos like this make it more difficult for those who do suffer from mental health problems to open up, for fear they will be told to just "get over it". The truth is, Depression doesn't give you a choice when it decides to take over.

Being someone who has felt overwhelmingly helpless no matter what I did, including her four tips, I was deeply hurt by the video. I suddenly felt as though I had no right to feel the way I did.

And no one deserves to feel like that.
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Being "deeply hurt" by the words of someone who isn't extremely close to you isn't helpful, and I would argue is a sign of insecurity. Work on that. Argue people on a factual basis and leave emotions out of it.
 
I believe she is doing a great injustice to those of us have dealt with severe depression. But I also question those who chose to listen to her.
 
ShortHaxYT said:
This is Nicole Arbour. She's a YouTuber with over 400K subscribers, even though she releases many controversial videos
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I would say: She has 400K subscribers because she releases many controversial videos. If she were just talking about things that are uncontroversial, no one would listen.

There are many ignorant people in the world. Yeah, it's disgusting and yeah, it would be great if they stopped. But they aren't going to and there is absolutely nothing we can do to stop them. People are free to say stupid things. We are free to try and correct them but I've long since learned that I can't force these people to listen.

I've often thought about making rebuttal videos. But I've settled into only addressing such nonsense when it's addressed to me directly. Like at work . . .my employees, despite working in the medical field, share with me all kinds of ridiculous claims. I'll share a silly, recent one:

There's a saying in Spanish: Se me pego el aire ("The air hit me"). The idea (<link to satire> which is widespread in other cultures) is that when you are drinking alcohol, when you go outside, the fresh air will hit you and you will get drunker. I have tried explaining that this is simply due to the fact that while you are drinking having fun, you may not notice how drunk you are; but, when you leave the bar and head to your car (or whatever) that's when you start feeling the drunkenness. I have tried pointing out that there is no biological mechanism for this to work. But the saying is so engrained into the culture here that I can't shake them from this erroneous belief.

This "no such thing as depression" is like that on a bigger scale. Some people are so entrenched in an idea that you can't shake them. But you can try. . .
 
Years ago when the Internet was in its infancy I thought it would be brilliant. Everyone will have the best information about any topic a click away I thought. It turned out everyone also had the worst, unvetted, information a click away. Many people choose to believe unvetted crap over vetted. Unvetted crap brings Trump. Trump brings ruin. Unvetted crap brings back previously defeated childhood diseases.

You're preaching to the choir.
 
Senex said:
Years ago when the Internet was in its infancy I thought it would be brilliant. Everyone will have the best information about any topic a click away I thought. It turned out everyone also had the worst, unvetted, information a click away. Many people choose to believe unvetted crap over vetted. Unvetted crap brings Trump. Trump brings ruin. Unvetted crap brings back previously defeated childhood diseases.

You're preaching to the choir.
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I know. Aside from the free porn, this was the most promising thing about the internet, in my mind.
 
alfaniner said:
I know. Aside from the free porn, this was the most promising thing about the internet, in my mind.
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I think it still is the best thing about the internet, at least as I use it. Almost all of human knowledge at our fingertips. One just has to be able to discriminate between good info and bad info.
 
xjx388 said:
I think it still is the best thing about the internet, at least as I use it. Almost all of human knowledge at our fingertips. One just has to be able to discriminate between good info and bad info.
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The problems lie in kids who do not understand the deep dark ventures and tricks of advertising and “objectionable” content


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Just remember: flat earth wouldn't have enjoyed the popularity that it has/did if it wasn't for Youtube. These people have a much bigger influence than we'd like to admit.

Also, this girl most likely said this to get more views. After all, you're giving her free exposure here.
 
DuvalHMFIC said:
Just remember: flat earth wouldn't have enjoyed the popularity that it has/did if it wasn't for Youtube. These people have a much bigger influence than we'd like to admit.

Also, this girl most likely said this to get more views. After all, you're giving her free exposure here.
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She gets no views from me unless someone posts a link to this so called exposure.
 
ShortHaxYT said:
...I have lived 14 years in his world...
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You keep saying this. In my experience, kids don't keep saying "I'm a kid". Also, you're smart, smarter than most kids, certainly smarter than me-and-my-friends at 14. Then again, I amn't Mensa material myself, and besides, it's been years since I've had first-hand experience at being 14. They're probably making kids from a different mould these days, the Thunberg kid for instance. The world may not be doomed, after all.

Enjoyed reading your posts, kid. Welcome to the forum! You may or may not get a Nobel, or presidential sneers, but we might, perhaps, get you a TLA.
 
ShortHaxYT said:
The problems lie in kids who do not understand the deep dark ventures and tricks of advertising and “objectionable” content


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Back when I was a high school teacher I was told NOT to go ahead with a planned short unit on internet sources -media and information- and how to parse the good from the bad. I was ahead of my time. ;)
 
xjx388 said:
I think it still is the best thing about the internet, at least as I use it. Almost all of human knowledge at our fingertips. One just has to be able to discriminate between good info and bad info.
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But info, good or bad, is not the point. What the internet gives you at your fingertips is whatever you want to hear. And most of the time for most people, that's not "almost all of human knowledge."
30 years ago, I told naïve teachers that their students wouldn't be using the internet to find out about Aristotle or math the way that they imagined. They could already do that at any library, but didn't. The people who already used libraries to find out about the world would get easier access to knowledge. So would the ones who didn't, of course, but they just wouldn't use it for that purpose.
 
Chanakya said:
You keep saying this. In my experience, kids don't keep saying "I'm a kid". Also, you're smart, smarter than most kids, certainly smarter than me-and-my-friends at 14. Then again, I amn't Mensa material myself, and besides, it's been years since I've had first-hand experience at being 14. They're probably making kids from a different mould these days, the Thunberg kid for instance. The world may not be doomed, after all.

Enjoyed reading your posts, kid. Welcome to the forum! You may or may not get a Nobel, or presidential sneers, but we might, perhaps, get you a TLA.
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Well to be fair, he's gonna be 15 in a few days :thumbsup:
 
Chanakya said:
You keep saying this. In my experience, kids don't keep saying "I'm a kid". Also, you're smart, smarter than most kids, certainly smarter than me-and-my-friends at 14. Then again, I amn't Mensa material myself, and besides, it's been years since I've had first-hand experience at being 14. They're probably making kids from a different mould these days, the Thunberg kid for instance. The world may not be doomed, after all.

Enjoyed reading your posts, kid. Welcome to the forum! You may or may not get a Nobel, or presidential sneers, but we might, perhaps, get you a TLA.
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I'd had a feeling someone was going to say this....
I try to stand out from the crowd if you get the gist of what I am saying
Thanks for the welcome :)
 
The last time that I visited my parents, a commercial came on TV for the latest antidepressant, with a woman describing her struggle with the symptoms of her condition and my mother scoffed, saying "Everybody gets depressed sometimes."
I explained to her that it was a long-term illness caused by chemical imbalances in the brain, not just "feeling bad". I know that's an oversimplification, but she grew up in an era when science wasn't something girls needed to learn. She genuinely thought people took antidepressants just to deal with bad days, a modern "Mother's Little Helper".
 
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