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You weren’t paying attention. https://www.cnn.com/2013/04/29/opini...ess/index.html
In 2002, Bush appointed a new national homeless policy czar, Philip Mangano. A former music agent imbued with the religious philosophy of St. Francis of Assisi, Mangano was seized by an idea pioneered by New York University psychiatrist Sam Tsemberis: "housing first." The "housing first" concept urges authorities to concentrate resources on the hardest cases -- to move them into housing immediately -- and only to worry about the other problems of the homeless after they first have a roof over their heads. Or After many years of advocacy and numerous revisions, President Ronald Reagan signed into law the McKinney–Vento Homeless Assistance Act in 1987; this remains the only piece of federal legislation that allocates funding to the direct service of homeless people. They may not have done all that you would like but they not only talked they did some positive things. |
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Given how often Trump's retweeted Judicial Watch, I would be surprised if he didn't pay attention to it.
To poke at things, though... Trump Violates Whistleblower Protection Laws with Retweet of a Suspicious (Fake?) Twitter Shill Yet another open violation of the law. Journalist David Cay Johnston: Why Trump tax cut is really a tax increase with interest. Really short version - a lot of corporations made out like bandits. To the point where, for example,
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Time for a cadaver synod!
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The McKinney Vento Act or HR 558 had little Republican support. 43 Republicans voted for it. 113 voted against it. As opposed to 221 Democrats to 8 voting against it. It also was a grant act where States could opt out. Guess which ones opted out? It also was the result of horse trading which included more military funding that Ronnie wanted. It's not like the homeless was a priority for the GOP. I never hear Republican candidates give speeches focused on solving homelessness.
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Crazy Nancy Pelosi should spend more time in her her decaying city and less time on the Impeachment Hoax! |
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...our governments are just trying to protect us from terror. In the same way that someone banging a hornets’ nest with a stick is trying to protect us from hornets. Frankie Boyle, Guardian, July 2015 |
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...our governments are just trying to protect us from terror. In the same way that someone banging a hornets’ nest with a stick is trying to protect us from hornets. Frankie Boyle, Guardian, July 2015 |
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The Onion: Poll Finds 54% Of Americans Approve Executing Trump But Leaving Him In Office
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“The homeless face difficult and sometimes seemingly overwhelming obstacles in getting back on their feet,
But President Reagan did sign the bill.
Here is the first Bush on homelessness. Not a speech dedicated to homelessness but talking about it. The homeless face difficult and sometimes seemingly overwhelming obstacles in getting back on their feet,” he said in that message |
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In addition to Trump's Tweets, was something about this interview posted?
Vanity Fair: TRUMP WORRIED UNSIGHTLY HOMELESS ARE HURTING PROPERTY VALUES
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He's shows so much compassion
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1. He'd never do that. 2. Okay but he's not currently doing it. 3. Okay but he's not currently technically doing it. 4. Okay but everyone does it. 5. He's doing it, we can't stop him, no point in complaining about it. 6. We all knew he was going to do it which... makes it okay somehow. 7. It's perfectly fine that's he's doing it. |
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You know how when a whale carcass hits the bottom of the ocean it feeds thousands and thousands of smaller creatures? Perhaps Trump could aspire to the moral height of a rotting whale carcass when it comes to performing good deeds: a benefit to many, despite it being done unwillingly, unconsciously, and in a thoroughly disgusting manner. Yes, I believe Trump's best chance at generating good karma is to emulate a rotting whale carcass. His legacy will be all the brighter once eels eat his eyes, which is something that can't be said for many people. I think that's a wonderfully positive way to look at it.
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Mmm. Those numbers mean that a supermajority in the House supported it. Looks like the Senate vote was even more lopsided.
Reagan not signing it wouldn't have stopped it, which dramatically minimizes credit due to him. Still, that he did sign it is worth some credit, as is that most of the Republicans in the Senate supported it (though with a much lower ratio than the Democratic support). Just nowhere even remotely close to as much as what the Democrats deserve for it. Credit where credit is due. The large overall reduction of homelessness under the Bush Jr Administration is considered one of the successes of that administration. What's the cure for homelessness? A home, regardless of the reason for the homelessness. Potentially even a rent-free home. It's a pointedly liberal solution that did lots of good when it came to addressing the issue. I'm willing to give the Bush Administration credit for implementing it, either way. |
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Trump has managed to hit 15,413 misleading and false statements in the 4 years since taking office.
And people didn't want to have Clinton as President because she was such a liar...... |
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Sounds like something Trump supporters would rationalize.
And how does tearing up their encampments help when they have no place to go? Trump claiming they could use this building or that building is more crap. Unless you are suggesting they get locked up in FEMA camps? Reminds me of Barbara Bush saying, "they're underprivileged anyway, so this is working very well for them." re displaced Katrina victims staying in the Astrodome. Snopes: True |
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I've noticed a bizarre implication in a number of Trump tweets that members if Congress are responsible for the current state of their district and should be tending to it directly.
I'm not sure what mechanisms he's imagining. As far as I'm aware, members of Congress to not have any power or authority to create state, or local level policy. T |
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It doesn't matter what the facts are, Trump just wants to smear and attack Nancy Pelosi. He used the same tactic to smear Elijah Cummings as well. He failed, and I'm sure this attempt will fail too.
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Perhaps he thinks they're each CEOs of the companies that are their districts.
"Let's elect a businessman and run the country like a business!" I always thought that was an idiotic idea long before 2016 (I think I first heard it when Perot ran), but now we've seen it in action. |
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So sad to see that New York City and State are falling apart. All they want to do is investigate to make me hate them even more than I should. Governor Cuomo has lost control, and lost his mind. Very bad for the homeless and all!
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A Dirty Cop at the highest level. Scum! Adriana Cohen @AdrianaCohen16 Comey's cabal going down https://galesburg.com/opinion/201912...bal-going-down #Comey #FBI #SpyGate #FISAAbuses @realdonaldtrump #MAGA #KAG @greggjarrett @foxbusiness @BonginoReport #mapoli |
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Is he trying for a slander charge now?? Is this some sort of legal charge bingo he is playing?
ETA: That's a subscription-only website (of some obscure place in Illinois, from what I can gather). There is NO POSSIBLE FREAKIN' WAY that Trump would have searched for, found, subscribed to, read and understood that report all on his own. This is the work of a "research assistant" toiling away somewhere deep in the GOP salt mines, delivered up to be read to him to make his own inimitable comment on. |
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Yeah. Trump doesn't see the problem as "People are homeless", he sees the problem as, "Homeless people are bringing down property values for rich people".
Ironically, wealthy foreign real estate investors are a significant source of rising housing costs. Rich people looking to park their money somewhere end up buying multi-million dollar condos, and don't even live in them. Just keep the property and hope rising housing prices will make it a valuable investment. Enough people do it, and housing prices will go up, even though there is not really an increased demand for housing. |
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Maybe Go-Golfing Donald should spend more time dealing with his dangerous country than whining on Twitter.
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Any answers Nancy? Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump Wow Crazy Nancy, what’s going on? This is big stuff! https://twitter.com/text88022/status...70523970850816 |
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Can't Trump just add homeless to ISIS tasks? Just deport them to Mexico, nobody will notice!
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