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Old 29th December 2019, 08:17 AM   #81
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Originally Posted by timhau View Post
Maybe Go-Golfing Donald should spend more time dealing with his dangerous country than whining on Twitter.
What I found most interesting there is the fact that mass murders/shootings are increasing even as the overall homicide rate drops.
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Old 29th December 2019, 08:36 AM   #82
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Originally Posted by Ladewig View Post
This is getting scarier than I expected.
The president of the United States actually wrote that?
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All they want to do is investigate to make me hate them even more than I should.
Even more than he should? What does Trump consider the correct amount of hate? I'd make a crack about, "When do the death squads get started?" but the reality is: If Trump ran into New York governor Andrew Cuomo at some function, Trump would laugh it off. As he once told Hillary Clinton, "In politics you sometimes have to say things you don't really mean."

It's just red meat for his followers. And it works. He went after Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Ilhan Omar and they have become absolute pariahs in right wing social media groups
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Old 29th December 2019, 09:19 AM   #83
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Originally Posted by newyorkguy View Post
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Even more than he should? What does Trump consider the correct amount of hate? I'd make a crack about, "When do the death squads get started?" but the reality is: If Trump ran into New York governor Andrew Cuomo at some function, Trump would laugh it off. As he once told Hillary Clinton, "In politics you sometimes have to say things you don't really mean."

It's just red meat for his followers. And it works. He went after Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Ilhan Omar and they have become absolute pariahs in right wing social media groups

I saw an interview with Michael Moore recently where he blamed New York City for inflicting Trump on America. He said everybody in New York knew who and what Trump really was, but instead of slapping him down as a fraud and a crook with mob connections, everybody treated him as an amusing entertainer and fed his fantasies. And now here we are.

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Old 29th December 2019, 10:06 AM   #84
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Originally Posted by Tero View Post
Can't Trump just add homeless to ISIS tasks? Just deport them to Mexico, nobody will notice!
I assume you meant ICE rather than ISIS!
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Old 29th December 2019, 10:28 AM   #85
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Trump Tweets

Crazy Nancy Pelosi should spend more time in her decaying city and less time on the Impeachment Hoax!
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Old 29th December 2019, 10:35 AM   #86
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Originally Posted by Bob001 View Post
I saw an interview with Michael Moore recently where he blamed New York City for inflicting Trump on America. He said everybody in New York knew who and what Trump really was, but instead of slapping him down as a fraud and a crook with mob connections, everybody treated him as an amusing entertainer and fed his fantasies. And now here we are.
I don't agree with that totally but there is a lot of truth in it. Trump was a semi-regular on the Late Show with David Letterman appearing thirty times. But having a regular diet of Trump over the years I think most New Yorkers were wise to him. Back in 2015 I wrote here that I was astounded to see Trump mentioned as being in the running for the 2016 Republican presidential candidacy. I wrote that he had "zero chance."

People in the entertainment business also blame Mark Burnett, the producer of The Apprentice for reinventing and repackaging Trump in a way that explains a lot of his popularity outside New York City. (Trump lost the 2016 vote in NYC by 20-80 and was booed when he arrived to vote at his neighborhood polling station.)

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“The Apprentice” portrayed Trump not as a skeezy hustler who huddles with local mobsters but as a plutocrat with impeccable business instincts and unparalleled wealth—a titan who always seemed to be climbing out of helicopters or into limousines. “Most of us knew he was a fake,” ["The Apprentice editor Jonathon] Braun told me. “He had just gone through I don’t know how many bankruptcies. But we made him out to be the most important person in the world. It was like making the court jester the king.” Bill Pruitt, another producer, recalled, “We walked through the offices and saw chipped furniture. We saw a crumbling empire at every turn. Our job was to make it seem otherwise.” Link
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Old 29th December 2019, 10:40 AM   #87
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Originally Posted by SezMe View Post
Gee, whatever happened to the Steele Dossier?
The same thing that happened to the "a bunch of Republican primary candidates" dossier.

They are the ones who funded the document coming into existence. Shopping it to Clinton was just extra profit at that point.
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Old 29th December 2019, 11:07 AM   #88
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Originally Posted by newyorkguy View Post
I don't agree with that totally but there is a lot of truth in it. Trump was a semi-regular on the Late Show with David Letterman appearing thirty times. But having a regular diet of Trump over the years I think most New Yorkers were wise to him. Back in 2015 I wrote here that I was astounded to see Trump mentioned as being in the running for the 2016 Republican presidential candidacy. I wrote that he had "zero chance."

People in the entertainment business also blame Mark Burnett, the producer of The Apprentice for reinventing and repackaging Trump in a way that explains a lot of his popularity outside New York City. (Trump lost the 2016 vote in NYC by 20-80 and was booed when he arrived to vote at his neighborhood polling station.)
Here's the link to the full New Yorker story:
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2...erican-success

Burnett's consulting psychologist said of Trump:
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“That somebody can become that successful while also being that emotionally undisciplined—it’s so macabre that you have to watch it,” he said. “And you keep waiting for the comeuppance. But it doesn’t come.”
I think part of Moore's point was that there should have been more severe legal consequences for Trump's antics: financial and tax fraud, cheating contractors, hiring illegal workers and violating labor and environmental laws, harassing tenants that he wanted to get rid of, etc. NYC never took him seriously enough to use its available tools against him.

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Old 29th December 2019, 12:16 PM   #89
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Originally Posted by newyorkguy View Post
The president of the United States actually wrote that?
I was most frightened by President Trump projecting his emotions and wrongdoings onto others since before the election. Now he is accusing others of losing their minds.
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Old 29th December 2019, 02:13 PM   #90
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Originally Posted by Ladewig View Post
I was most frightened by President Trump projecting his emotions and wrongdoings onto others since before the election. Now he is accusing others of losing their minds.
He's also accused people of being fat and stupid!
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Old 29th December 2019, 02:44 PM   #91
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In California you don't need to go anywhere. A sleeping bag is enough shelter all the way up to the Bay area.

A slow migration from other areas, and people who went bankrupt, lost health etc keeps adding to homeless in CA.
Thanks for pointing out the obvious that Trump deliberately ignores.
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Old 29th December 2019, 02:45 PM   #92
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Originally Posted by TragicMonkey View Post
He's also accused people of being fat and stupid!
Which is fair enough - he's in great shape and has a huge IQ
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Old 29th December 2019, 03:19 PM   #93
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Originally Posted by TragicMonkey View Post
Of course not. What a stupid thing to say.
Did I need a sarcasm alert there?

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That seems unrelated to this.
That's because you think everything I said I was talking about you when I was talking about Trump. Except my first sentence and that was a general comment, 'something a Trump supporter would say' doesn't mean you are that supporter.
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Old 29th December 2019, 03:21 PM   #94
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To the surprise of NONE of us in manufacturing, tariffs backfired. No ****** Who would have thought.
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Old 29th December 2019, 03:24 PM   #95
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To the surprise of NONE of us in manufacturing, tariffs backfired. No ****** Who would have thought.
DEEP STATE! DEEEP!
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Old 29th December 2019, 03:32 PM   #96
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Ugh.

Trump and the Stock Market Are the Winners in the Fed’s Repo Loan Binge; Here’s the Losers

Really short version? Nearly all American taxpayers.

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An unprecedented spike to 10 percent in the repo market is a harbinger that one or more of the borrowers in this market is in trouble and lenders don’t want the exposure so they are backing away from lending. This is how free markets are supposed to work. They are supposed to be allowed to send pivotal warning signs from time to time through an efficient pricing mechanism.

But instead of allowing the free market and efficient pricing components to function, the Fed cut this short and drew a dark curtain around this part of the market by flooding cheap, electronically-created money to Wall Street’s trading houses.

On December 12, the New York Fed upped the ante. It announced that over the next month it would shower the trading houses (primary dealers) on Wall Street with a cumulative total of $2.93 trillion in short-term loans.

Now Wall Street has made it clear what the cheap money is being used for. It’s not being loaned out to help the general economy – it’s being used to push the stock market to record highs each day.
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U.S. taxpayers are also the big losers. The Federal Reserve’s balance sheet is ballooning again as a result of these repo loans and is now back over $4 trillion. If its balance sheet is this big now, what’s going to happen if Wall Street blows itself up again and the Fed has to intervene as a legitimate lender of last resort. Are we looking at an unthinkable $8 trillion balance sheet at the Fed? U.S. taxpayers are ultimately on the hook for any losses at their central bank.

U.S. investors and U.S. citizens are also the big losers. A euphoric stock market undermines the case in Congress for making the critically-needed reforms of Wall Street’s mega banks before they blow themselves up again with derivatives.

And, finally, the next generation and their children are the ultimate biggest losers of all. By funneling cheap loans to Wall Street’s trading houses instead of using its bully pulpit to demand reforms at the casino-like mega banks, the Federal Reserve is aiding and abetting and guaranteeing that the next market crash will be worse than it needs to be. That crash will result in more fiscal spending to shore up the economy, ballooning the national debt exponentially. This will mean that our children and their children will experience a blighted standard of living as more and more of Federal tax revenues are diverted to service the debt load instead of going to healthcare, education, and rebuilding the nation’s crumbling infrastructure.

None of this seems to have been properly deliberated at the Fed. Based on its minutes, its main concern appears to be that the Wall Street banks borrowing from it might end up being “stigmatized.” The insular Fed needs a hard reminder from Congress as to whose interests it is supposed to serve.
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Old 29th December 2019, 03:46 PM   #97
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Thanks for pointing out the obvious that Trump deliberately ignores.
It may not be a case of his knowing it and choosing to ignore it. He really may be ignorant enough to believe the BS he is peddling.
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I assume you meant ICE rather than ISIS!
Yeah, it's hard to keep track of acronyms, let alone social media.

I offered him a solution on Twitter:

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Any answers Nancy?

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Wow Crazy Nancy, what’s going on? This is big stuff! https://twitter.com/text88022/status...70523970850816
It was all about getting Ukraine of its compromising and destabilizing addiction to Russian gas.
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He's also accused people of being fat and stupid!
And having blood coming out of their whatever.
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To the surprise of NONE of us in manufacturing, tariffs backfired. No ****** Who would have thought.
33 pages. Can you supply the key points.
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And when the Dems take over and try to fix this mess there are likely to be unpleasant consequences. Nobody needs to guess who will get blamed.

Calling the Dems "tax and spend liberals" has to be at or near to their peak hypocrisy.
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Any answers Nancy?

Donald J. Trump
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Wow Crazy Nancy, what’s going on? This is big stuff! https://twitter.com/text88022/status...70523970850816
That's quite the slick propaganda Twitter feed. Puts Glenn Beck's chalkboard to shame.
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Two trillion poured into a stock market bubble instead of Infrastructure.
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Any answers Nancy?

Donald J. Trump
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Wow Crazy Nancy, what’s going on? This is big stuff! https://twitter.com/text88022/status...70523970850816
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Two trillion poured into a stock market bubble instead of Infrastructure.
It's amazing. Literally giving billions to the rich to inflate a metric. The stock market price should be an emergent property. Otherwise or is just like taking ice to get high.
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It may not be a case of his knowing it and choosing to ignore it. He really may be ignorant enough to believe the BS he is peddling.
He does.
He really thinks he is a genius.
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He does.
He really thinks he is a genius.
And he thinks everyone else thinks he is, too. They're all just jealous of him.
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He does.
He really thinks he is a genius.
Originally Posted by Stacyhs View Post
And he thinks everyone else thinks he is, too. They're all just jealous of him.
He has always been allowed to do and say whatever he wanted without consequence. Nobody ever said "NO" to him; everyone he knows fawns over him or genuflects in awe. He has always had someone else clean up his crapped diaper situations for him. So he has never had to take any notice or responsibility for his failures. He believes everyone lives in awe of his (so-called) wealth. He is as vain AF.

He needs a good kick in the balls, literally and metaphorically.
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He does.
He really thinks he is a genius.
Well, to be fair, whatever delusion he might be under actually got him into the White House. Thus reinforcing that delusion.
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One Surprisingly Simple Reason Evangelicals Love Trump: It's his immigration policy

Link: https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...-election-2020
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California and New York must do something about their TREMENDOUS Homeless problems. They are setting records! If their Governors can’t handle the situation, which they should be able to do very easily, they must call and “politely” ask for help. Would be so easy with competence!

Everything that he hasn't actually done would be incredibly easy to do. How's that simple health care plan coming along?
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Everything that he hasn't actually done would be incredibly easy to do. How's that simple health care plan coming along?
Also remember that the thought that health care was like term life insurance and also stated that nobody knew health care was complicated.
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Thank you to highly respected Jewish leader Dov Hikind for his wonderful statements about me this morning on @foxandfriends.
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This whole idea that the only reason we have problems is because all those uppity elitist in power just aren't as smart as they think they are with their fancy book learning and don't realize they are making the problem more complicated then it really is and all it's gonna take is a salt of the Earth person with some common sense and street smarts to go in there and cut right through the Gordian Knot is one of the core prospects of Trump's persona that he sells to his followers. It's always 100% insane nonsense. It's trying to solve poverty by having the government "just print more money." It's telling someone who is having problem with a Unix box to "Just buy a Mac." It's telling a depressed person "Just stop being sad."

That's why even on the rare occasions he actually proposes a solution to something it's a 5 year old's understanding of how real solutions to real problems work; rarely anything deeper or more complicated then "Just stop having the problem, have you tried that?"

But again this is all academic because actually solving problems is not in Trump's best interest.
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But again this is all academic because actually solving problems is not in Trump's best interest.
Except for solving problems that he creates in the first place and then pretends it is a great victory.
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Thank you to highly respected Jewish leader Dov Hikind for his wonderful statements about me this morning on @foxandfriends.
Can someone give some context here?

Who is Dov Hikind and what did he say? Is he really "respected"? (I have never heard of him)

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Except for solving problems that he creates in the first place and then pretends it is a great victory.
Listen I don't want to brag but if I hadn't mopped up the coffee that I spilled walking into the office this morning there's like a solid... 50... well 30... okay 10 percent chance it would still be there.
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Can someone give some context here?

Who is Dov Hikind and what did he say? Is he really "respected"? (I have never heard of him)
Dov Hikind is a Jewish-American politician who represented Brooklyn's heavily Jewish 48th District as an Assemblyman for over 35 years.

He's a member of the Democratic Party but often breaks ranks to support or endorse Republican Candidates.

He's generally well respected within the Jewish community from what I can gather (I don't have like my thumb on the pulse of that to speak with any authority on who and who isn't respected in any sort of declarative way obviously) but has also been involved in several controversies of multiple varieties in the last few years; wearing blackface, some corruption charges, a weird twitter feud with AOC that ending with her blocking him and him suing her and seems to have made a hobby of calling progressive, farther left politicians anti-Semites.
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This whole idea that the only reason we have problems is because all those uppity elitist in power just aren't as smart as they think they are with their fancy book learning and don't realize they are making the problem more complicated then it really is and all it's gonna take is a salt of the Earth person with some common sense and street smarts to go in there and cut right through the Gordian Knot is one of the core prospects of Trump's persona that he sells to his followers. It's always 100% insane nonsense. It's trying to solve poverty by having the government "just print more money." It's telling someone who is having problem with a Unix box to "Just buy a Mac." It's telling a depressed person "Just stop being sad."

That's why even on the rare occasions he actually proposes a solution to something it's a 5 year old's understanding of how real solutions to real problems work; rarely anything deeper or more complicated then "Just stop having the problem, have you tried that?"

But again this is all academic because actually solving problems is not in Trump's best interest.
Like that Starbucks dude's plan to point to a chair representing Americans. I can't even remember his name now. Weird year.
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