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Old 29th January 2020, 05:41 PM   #1
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Corono Virus Conspiracy Theories....

I have not yet had the nerve to go to the nut websites and check on this, but I would be surprised if they are not going bonkers over the corona virus outbreak.


OK, I did not get the nerve to go the sites themselves but found this summary of some of the wackiness from "Rolling Stone:"


https://www.rollingstone.com/culture...theory-942416/
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Old 29th January 2020, 05:49 PM   #2
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Um, it's "coronavirus".
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Old 29th January 2020, 05:55 PM   #3
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Originally Posted by Trebuchet View Post
Um, it's "coronavirus".
Yeah, my bad. I admit my penchant for typos.
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I made the following post in the other thread. I think it is on topic in here too.

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The list below gives a list of disinformation. It does not give references. Though they often just need to say the original information is unsourced.

Here's A Running List Of Disinformation Spreading About The Coronavirus
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Old 30th January 2020, 08:41 AM   #5
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There is featured a tweeted photo of a girl enjoying some [revolting-looking] bat soup.

This is not disinformation as scientists studying the DNA of the virus say it is indeed bat origin in nature. How did it get into the human virus chain? It almost certainly is a result of the Chinese fondness for wild animal consumption.
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Originally Posted by Vixen View Post
There is featured a tweeted photo of a girl enjoying some [revolting-looking] bat soup.

This is not disinformation as scientists studying the DNA of the virus say it is indeed bat origin in nature. How did it get into the human virus chain? It almost certainly is a result of the Chinese fondness for wild animal consumption.
1. I doubt this: coronavirus has an RNA genome and does not replicate through a DNA intermediate. There is no viral DNA. Furthermore the virus would not leave any sequences or other traces in a host's DNA. Perhaps you are thinking of reverse transcription/PCR which can identify viral RNA either on its own or in a host cell?

2. There is now some evidence that this virus may have first appeared prior to the infections associated with the food markets. Not definitive but enough to indicate more studies will be required to be certain or not. A photo of a girl eating bat soup (or to be accurate, what is presented as a photo of a girl eating bat soup) does not address this question.

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Old 30th January 2020, 12:35 PM   #7
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Originally Posted by dudalb View Post
Yeah, my bad. I admit my penchant for typos.
You should be ahismaed of yoursellf&
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The Corona virus? I blame Big Lime.
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Old 30th January 2020, 01:01 PM   #9
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Folks, keep in mind that this thread is strictly for conspiracy theories. It is not a thread for misconceptions which are not specifically conspiracy theories.

If this thread is not kept to conspiracy theories then it is a parallel thread to the one already existing in Science/Medicine Forum and therefore is subject to merging.
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Old 30th January 2020, 01:03 PM   #10
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Steve Pieczinik, on the Alex Jones Show, said that he was patient zero with pneumonia due to this corona virus outbreak, and that he treated himself. He apparently got it from meeting with some Chinese intelligence officials.

He also claimed that we have no Surgeon General or health infrastructure in the USA.
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Old 30th January 2020, 01:12 PM   #11
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Originally Posted by carlitos View Post
Steve Pieczinik, on the Alex Jones Show, said that he was patient zero with pneumonia due to this corona virus outbreak, and that he treated himself. He apparently got it from meeting with some Chinese intelligence officials.

He also claimed that we have no Surgeon General or health infrastructure in the USA.
Is this a conspiracy theory?
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Old 30th January 2020, 03:23 PM   #12
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How long until the hucksters show up, selling a "cure for the coronavirus THEY do not want you do know about" .
I could see the Jude Law character in "Contagion" happening for real.
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Old 30th January 2020, 03:39 PM   #13
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Only conspiracy theory I find plausible is that the Chinese Government might be lowballing and juggling the figures to make it seem less serious then it really is to try to avert panic. Authoratarian governments like to do stuff like that.
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Old 30th January 2020, 04:44 PM   #14
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Just found out Qanon is peddling drinking what amounts to diluted Industrial Bleach as a cure for coronavirus...
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Old 30th January 2020, 05:41 PM   #15
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Originally Posted by dudalb View Post
Just found out Qanon is peddling drinking what amounts to diluted Industrial Bleach as a cure for coronavirus...
That's misinformation, not a conspiracy.
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Here’s what somebody on Facebook says:
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Lysol is effective against the human and SARS Corona virus and oxivir wipes are effective against a specific strain of the coronavirus. Wash your hands often and don't touch your face.
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Here’s what somebody else says:
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The World Health Org is a part of the globalist elite NewWorld Order, as well as the CDC.
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Originally Posted by carlitos View Post
Steve Pieczinik, on the Alex Jones Show, said that he was patient zero with pneumonia due to this corona virus outbreak, and that he treated himself. He apparently got it from meeting with some Chinese intelligence officials.

He also claimed that we have no Surgeon General or health infrastructure in the USA.
My take on 'ol Steve in another thread:

http://www.internationalskeptics.com...&postcount=299

He's still the same douchebag fantasist.
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Some are saying the virus is a sign of the end times and predicted in the Bible.
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Originally Posted by zorro99 View Post
Here’s what somebody else says:
Actually if the coronavirus got that guy, it would be a plus for the human gene pool....
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Originally Posted by zorro99 View Post
Some are saying the virus is a sign of the end times and predicted in the Bible.

I am so not surprised.
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Originally Posted by BStrong View Post
My take on 'ol Steve in another thread:

http://www.internationalskeptics.com...&postcount=299

He's still the same douchebag fantasist.

Another guy who if the virus did get him it would be a net gain for the human race.
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Originally Posted by zorro99 View Post
Some are saying the virus is a sign of the end times and predicted in the Bible.
That's not a conspiracy theory.
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The Pentacostals are probably frothing at the mouth about now...

After all we have cane toads (plague of frogs)
Locusts.
Mice.
Fires.
Floods.
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Here is a genuine conspiracy theory...

Originally Posted by ScienceAlert
Multiple posts on Facebook and Twitter alleged that the novel coronavirus was created on purpose - with theories including that it was manufactured by the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

The posts included patents to buffer their claim. But these were in fact patents registered in an effort to combat different strains of coronavirus, for example by developing vaccines.
https://www.sciencealert.com/here-s-...an-coronavirus
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Old 31st January 2020, 06:00 PM   #27
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Well, boomer killer would be very useful to many countries.
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Originally Posted by William Parcher View Post
That's not a conspiracy theory.
Ever here of normal topic drift?
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Did you know that people killed by the virus reanimate as Zombies?
That's why the Chinese rush to have them cremated.
It's the only explanation.
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Originally Posted by William Parcher View Post
Here is a genuine conspiracy theory...


https://www.sciencealert.com/here-s-...an-coronavirus

Here's a Metabunk thread on another 'the virus was artificially created' claim:


https://www.metabunk.org/threads/cla...navirus.11103/


Since no one has bought this up, it's interesting to note that the 1975 British TV series 'Surviviors', set in the aftermath of a devastating viral outbreak had a title sequence implying that the illness resulted from the accidental release of a bioweapon under development by the Chinese!


By contrast the 2005 remake of the series blamed the fictional illness on an attempt to genetically engineer a cure for the common cold.
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QAnon-ers’ Magic Cure for Coronavirus: Just Drink Bleach!

https://www.thedailybeast.com/trumps...est?ref=scroll

Q Anon is telling people to drink bleach for Coronavirus.
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There was a paper uploaded to bioRxiv prior to peer review, which claimed that the novel coronavirus had genetic sequences from HIV and implied that it had been deliberately created as a bioweapon. It's since been withdrawn, but Forbes has an article about it.

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The work, by a group based in India, was entitled “Uncanny similarity of unique inserts in the 2019-nCoV spike protein to HIV-1 gp120 and Gag.”

“Based on analysis of multiple, very short regions of proteins in the novel coronavirus, the bioRxiv paper claimed that the new coronavirus may have acquired these regions from HIV,” said Arinjay Banerjee, PhD, a postdoctoral fellow in virology at McMaster University in Ontario, Canada who has extensively studied coronaviruses.

However, the authors then speculated that this might not be a coincidence and perhaps the bits of genetic code were put there intentionally. The conspiracy theory was addressed today by a scientist from the Wuhan Institute of Virology at the Chinese Academy of Sciences, who rubbished the claims.

Essentially, the scientists found that yes, there are some additions in the nCoV coronavirus originating in Wuhan that other coronaviruses don’t have, which are similar to pieces of sequence found in HIV. But, the kicker here is that these pieces of genetic code are also found in countless other viruses and there’s no reason to believe they specifically came from HIV, at all.
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Originally Posted by zorro99 View Post
QAnon-ers’ Magic Cure for Coronavirus: Just Drink Bleach!

https://www.thedailybeast.com/trumps...est?ref=scroll

Q Anon is telling people to drink bleach for Coronavirus.
Oh, the bleach would probably kill the coronavirus...problem is it would kill a lot of other stuff in your system...you know, the stuff you need to live.
Either that, or it would be so diluted down at to be useless.
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Natural News is getting on the act (there's a surprise) by claiming it is 'irrefutable' that the virus was engineered in a lab:

http://dailyheadlines.net/irrefutabl...20DH.NET%206PM

Dr. Francis Boyle claims it was engineered:

https://greatgameindia.com/dr-franci...arfare-weapon/

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Originally Posted by HotRodDeluxe View Post
Natural News is getting on the act (there's a surprise) by claiming it is 'irrefutable' that the virus was engineered in a lab:

http://dailyheadlines.net/irrefutabl...20DH.NET%206PM

Dr. Francis Boyle claims it was engineered:

https://greatgameindia.com/dr-franci...arfare-weapon/
Actually the coronavirus would be a lousy biological warfare weapon.
But then the people who scream biological weapon at every opportunity don't seem to understand what you want a biological weapon to do....
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Actually the coronavirus would be a lousy biological warfare weapon.
But then the people who scream biological weapon at every opportunity don't seem to understand what you want a biological weapon to do....
I suppose we mustn't let reason interfere with a good story.
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I suppose we mustn't let reason interfere with a good story.
Coronavirus is too slow acting for an effective biological weapon. You want a disease that acts much quicker to disable/kill the enemies Military.
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Coronavirus is too slow acting for an effective biological weapon. You want a disease that acts much quicker to disable/kill the enemies Military.
Oh, I agree, it's a silly claim. Dr. Francis Boyle said they were trying to weaponise SARS and they got this. Well, this is hardly as effective as SARS. O_o
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Coronavirus is too slow acting for an effective biological weapon. You want a disease that acts much quicker to disable/kill the enemies Military.

Well, if you're targeting an entire population, you would probably want to increase the contagiousness while delaying the onset of symptoms to reduce visibility and prevent the authorities from taking preventative action until as many people are infected as possible.
That's how I always win the browser-based game Pandemic. Pandemic 2, I've never beaten however. Someone sneezes in Outer Mongolia and Madagascar shuts down everything.
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That's misinformation, not a conspiracy.
The implication that "They" are preventing the dissemination of this cure makes it one.
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