Trump is sending the Sturmtruppler into Sanctuary Cities

Seattle's ex-chief of police had this to say about the ignorant policy:

Chicago Tribune
“If you were a police chief and you were going to make an apprehension for a relatively minor offense, you don’t send the SWAT team. And BORTAC is the SWAT team,” said Kerlikowske, who is the former chief of police in Seattle. “They’re trained for much more hazardous missions than this.”
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Your tax dollars at work satisfying Trump's obsession with immigrants.
 
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It could be worse. One of Trump's fanboys said he would be willing to use a nuke as a suicide bomb in a Sanctuary City if Trump told him to.

Rene Hollan, a Monroe, Wash., man who is a regular participant in events organized by Patriot Prayer and the Proud Boys in the Pacific Northwest, posted a screed (later removed by Facebook) vowing that he would even detonate a nuclear bomb in a major liberal city:
"As a naturalized U.S. citizen who swore the Oath of Allegiance, if President Trump orders me to drive a truck with a nuke into a city with Facebook offices or an illegal sanctuary city, and detonate it, killing myself, everyone in the city, and rendering it a sheet of glass, it would be my honor to comply."
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Stacyhs said:
If you're referring to Rene Hollan, that's the male form of the name. The feminine form is Renée as in Zellwigger. Think of René Auberjonois or René Descartes.
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I don't think Bridget Jones, Odo, and Descartes would care to be put in the company of that guy.
 
Trebuchet said:
Now, now, you know Trump isn't against ALL immigrants. White northern European Protestants are just fine. As are brown illegals working for starvation wages at his hotels.
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And ones he wants to, using the POTUS phrasing, "grab the pussy" of.
 
it obviously should have been Sturmtrumpler................what a wasted opportunity



sigh, amatuers
 
carlitos said:
Is "Sturmtruppler" a joke that I'm not getting?
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No, its not a joke that you're not getting - its an inference.

The word is German for "Stormtrooper". If you're old enough, you'll know that the term originally refers, not to the white armoured cannon fodder from Star Wars, but to the shock troops used by Germany in WW1, and later the Nazis in WW2.

As a slang term, it implies the people sending them in are little better than Nazis. In the 1960s and 1970s during the time of the many student protests over things like the Vietnam War and Civil Rights, riot police were often referred to as stormtroopers.

In the case used by the OP, he is inferring a parallel that the Nazis in power (the Trump Administration) are using stormtroopers (ICE & CPB) to go into sanctuary cities and hunt down Jews (Mexicans) and take them to be imprisoned in the concentration camps (detention centres).

Hope this helps.
 
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These rogue cities are protecting criminal illegals and refusing to turn them over to the federal government. So, Trump is sending in some teams to assist ICE in arresting them and throwing them out of the country. Why Democrats want criminals in their communities is rather puzzling.
 
BrooklynBaby said:
These rogue cities are protecting criminal illegals and refusing to turn them over to the federal government. So, Trump is sending in some teams to assist ICE in arresting them and throwing them out of the country. Why Democrats want criminals in their communities is rather puzzling.
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They are either awaiting trial or have completed their punishment. If they are awaiting trials, we don't know if they are criminals. If they served their time, they have fulfilled the requirements to return to the community.
 
You Trump supporters, even though few people in this forum admit they support Trump, are missing the forest for the shiny trees.

Nothing Trump does about attacking the brown people is exactly what it seems. Yes, he's a racist and all that, but what's really going on here: Trump is using everyone's tax dollars to campaign.

Sure, it's one thing to promote the wall and anti-abortion policies. But this is more specific to the campaign. He has Tweeted that he's saving lives in sanctuary cities by arresting those murderers and rapists that liberals are harboring.

Here it is courtesy of Captain Swoop:
Trump Retweeted

Team Trump (Text TRUMP to 88022)
@TeamTrump
Not one more life should be stolen by a Sanctuary City.
President @realDonaldTrump is calling on Congress to give American citizens the right to sue Sanctuary Cities for damages!
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Taxpayer supported campaigning.
 
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Skeptic Ginger said:
You Trump supporters, even though few people in this forum admit they support Trump, are missing the forest for the shiny trees.

Nothing Trump does about attacking the brown people is exactly what it seems. Yes, he's a racist and all that, but what's really going on here: Trump is using everyone's tax dollars to campaign.

Sure, it's one thing to promote the wall and anti-abortion policies. But this is more specific to the campaign. He has Tweeted that he's saving lives in sanctuary cities by arresting those murderers and rapists that liberals are harboring.
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Of course Trump supporters, Trump apologists and racists (which are all words for the same thing IMO) don't want you to know the truth - that illegal immigrants commit proportionally less crimes than native born Americans, and that legal immigrants commit even less crime.

"Alex Nowrasteh, with the libertarian Cato Institute, analyzed the Texas data to make a comparison of immigrants in the country illegally and native-born residents. In a recent post he noted that in 2015 Texas police made 815,689 arrests of native-born Americans, 37,776 arrests of immigrants in the country illegally and 20,323 arrests of legal immigrants. Given the relative populations for each group, he wrote, “The arrest rate for illegal immigrants was 40 percent below that of native-born Americans.”
In addition, he wrote, the homicide arrest rate for native-born Americans was “about 46 percent higher than the illegal immigrant homicide arrest rate.”
Other research from the Cato Institute attempted to provide national estimates. A study published on June 4 used data from the Census Bureau’s American Community Survey for 2016 and applied statistical modelling to estimate the number of incarcerated immigrants in the country illegally. It filtered the data using characteristics correlated with being an immigrant in the country illegally, such as whether someone is a non-citizen but has not served in the military or received Social Security income. The research concluded: “Illegal immigrants are 47 percent less likely to be incarcerated than natives.” (And legal immigrants are even less likely to be in jail or prison.)​

https://www.factcheck.org/2018/06/is-illegal-immigration-linked-to-more-or-less-crime/
 
smartcooky said:
Of course Trump supporters, Trump apologists and racists (which are all words for the same thing IMO) don't want you to know the truth - that illegal immigrants commit proportionally less crimes than native born Americans, and that legal immigrants commit even less crime.

"Alex Nowrasteh, with the libertarian Cato Institute, analyzed the Texas data to make a comparison of immigrants in the country illegally and native-born residents. In a recent post he noted that in 2015 Texas police made 815,689 arrests of native-born Americans, 37,776 arrests of immigrants in the country illegally and 20,323 arrests of legal immigrants. Given the relative populations for each group, he wrote, “The arrest rate for illegal immigrants was 40 percent below that of native-born Americans.”
In addition, he wrote, the homicide arrest rate for native-born Americans was “about 46 percent higher than the illegal immigrant homicide arrest rate.”
Other research from the Cato Institute attempted to provide national estimates. A study published on June 4 used data from the Census Bureau’s American Community Survey for 2016 and applied statistical modelling to estimate the number of incarcerated immigrants in the country illegally. It filtered the data using characteristics correlated with being an immigrant in the country illegally, such as whether someone is a non-citizen but has not served in the military or received Social Security income. The research concluded: “Illegal immigrants are 47 percent less likely to be incarcerated than natives.” (And legal immigrants are even less likely to be in jail or prison.)​
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https://www.factcheck.org/2018/06/is-illegal-immigration-linked-to-more-or-less-crime/
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Now, now, Smartcooky. Don't piss on their fantasies of rampaging murderers, rapists and drug dealers! It gives them a justification to be racists and bigots.
 
Stacyhs said:
If you're referring to Rene Hollan, that's the male form of the name. The feminine form is Renée as in Zellwigger. Think of René Auberjonois or René Descartes.
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In the UK we think of this Rene

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smartcooky said:
Of course Trump supporters, Trump apologists and racists (which are all words for the same thing IMO) don't want you to know the truth - that illegal immigrants commit proportionally less crimes than native born Americans, and that legal immigrants commit even less crime.

"Alex Nowrasteh, with the libertarian Cato Institute, analyzed the Texas data to make a comparison of immigrants in the country illegally and native-born residents. In a recent post he noted that in 2015 Texas police made 815,689 arrests of native-born Americans, 37,776 arrests of immigrants in the country illegally and 20,323 arrests of legal immigrants. Given the relative populations for each group, he wrote, “The arrest rate for illegal immigrants was 40 percent below that of native-born Americans.”
In addition, he wrote, the homicide arrest rate for native-born Americans was “about 46 percent higher than the illegal immigrant homicide arrest rate.”
Other research from the Cato Institute attempted to provide national estimates. A study published on June 4 used data from the Census Bureau’s American Community Survey for 2016 and applied statistical modelling to estimate the number of incarcerated immigrants in the country illegally. It filtered the data using characteristics correlated with being an immigrant in the country illegally, such as whether someone is a non-citizen but has not served in the military or received Social Security income. The research concluded: “Illegal immigrants are 47 percent less likely to be incarcerated than natives.” (And legal immigrants are even less likely to be in jail or prison.)​
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https://www.factcheck.org/2018/06/is-illegal-immigration-linked-to-more-or-less-crime/
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Take a little closer look at those number there smartcooky, and you'll see you are repeating the exact same talking points as white supremacists.


From smartcooky's alt-right source:
There is, however, one study that backs the president’s claim. John Lott, president of the Crime Prevention Research Center, looked at data on prisoners in Arizona state prison between the beginning of 1985 and June 2017 and concluded that “undocumented immigrants are at least 146% more likely to be convicted of crime than other Arizonans.” They also tend to commit more serious crimes, and have significantly higher rates for such crimes as murder, manslaughter, sexual assault and armed robbery, Lott concluded, and are more likely to be gang members.
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So we have two results from two different states. Why do you think that is, not white supremacist?

Black population of Texas: 12.3%
Black population of Arizona: 4.1%

So smartcooky admits that blacks commit a lot of crime, Latino immigrants a little less, and white people far less. I agree with luchdog, this place is becoming indistinguishable from any alt-right cess pool.
 
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Baylor said:
Take a little closer look at those number there smartcooky, and you'll see you are repeating the exact same talking points as white supremacists.


From smartcooky's alt-right source:


So we have two results from two different states. Why do you think that is, not white supremacist?

Black population of Texas: 12.3%
Black population of Arizona: 4.1%

So smartcooky admits that blacks commit a lot of crime, Latino immigrants a little less, and white people far less. I agree with luchdog, this place is becoming indistinguishable from any alt-right cess pool.
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The John Lott who believes that more guns = less cirme? The John Lott who has zero credibility due to misrepresenting statistics, mischaracterizing his own research and downright lying? THAT John Lott?

A little over a decade ago, he was disgraced and his career was in tatters. Not only was Lott’s assertion that more guns leads to more safety formally repudiated by a National Research Council panel, but he had also been caught pushing studies with severe statistical errors on numerous occasions. An investigation uncovered that he had almost certainly fabricated an entire survey on defensive gun use. And a blogger revealed that Mary Rosh, an online commentator claiming to be a former student of Lott’s who would frequently post about how amazing he was, was in fact John Lott himself. He was all but excommunicated from academia.
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Perhaps unaware of Lott’s previous transgressions, or believing he had turned a new page by founding the Crime Prevention Research Center (CPRC), many in the media who were desperate for an authoritative, pro-gun academic voice seized on Lott’s credentials and provided him with a new platform.
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Last fall, Lott’s website proudly declared it published a study in a peer-reviewed journal. “CPRC Has New Refereed Publication in Econ Journal Watch: Explaining a Bias in Recent Studies on Right-to-Carry Laws” blared the headline on his website. A link to a downloadable copy of the paper also touts its place in the economic journal.
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The only problem? The paper was never actually published in the Econ Journal Watch.
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Lott often claims that there is no difference between the frequency of public shootings in Europe and the United States. This is unabashedly false — but he continues to spread the falsehood anyway.
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This isn’t the first time that Lott and his allies have pushed studies with convenient errors that make the results appear to fit their more guns, less crime hypothesis
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https://thinkprogress.org/debunking-john-lott-5456e83cf326/

There are more examples in the above article that show John Lott is far from credible in anything he reports.
 
Baylor said:
Take a little closer look at those number there smartcooky, and you'll see you are repeating the exact same talking points as white supremacists.

From smartcooky's alt-right source:
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One of the most frustrating things about dealing to you is that you seem unafraid of simply straight out lying about what other people post. Did your Dear Leader teach you do that, or does it just come naturally to you?

Factcheck.org is not an "alt-right" source, it is politically centre...

https://www.allsides.com/news-source/factcheckorg-media-bias

...but don't let me stop you lying about my sources - you are the only one whose credibility is damaged (if indeed you have any left)

Baylor said:
So we have two results from two different states. Why do you think that is, not white supremacist?

Black population of Texas: 12.3%
Black population of Arizona: 4.1%

So smartcooky admits that blacks commit a lot of crime, Latino immigrants a little less, and white people far less. I agree with luchdog, this place is becoming indistinguishable from any alt-right cess pool.
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Because, as usual, you fail to understand that the figures are not absolute they are pro-rata.

On the face of it, 1000 apples sounds bigger than 100 oranges, but if I tell you that the 1000, is out of 1 million apples, and the 100 is out of 1000 oranges, you need to understand that the 100 represents greater proportion of the oranges than the 1000 does of the apples.

A third grader can understand this, but you seem incapable of it.
 
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smartcooky said:
Because, as usual, you fail to understand that the figures are not absolute they are pro-rata.

On the face of it, 1000 apples sounds bigger than 100 oranges, but if I tell you that the 1000, is out of 1 million apples, and the 100 is out of 1000 oranges, you need to understand that the 100 represents greater proportion of the oranges than the 1000 does of the apples.

A third grader can understand this, but you seem incapable of it.
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This has nothing to do with anything.

Smartcooky's claim, backed by his alt-right source:

"Native born Americans" in Texas commit more crime than illegal aliens because Texas has a lot of black people. But in states that don't have a lot of black people, "Native born Americans" commit less crimes than illegal aliens. From YOUR OWN SOURCE.

You walked into yet another mess echoing alt-right white supremacists when they say blacks commit a lot of crime. This isn't the first time you've done this. It's almost as if you've never been to the US, know nothing about it, or are a white supremacist. One of those things has to be true.
 
Baylor said:
This has nothing to do with anything.

Smartcooky's claim, backed by his alt-right source:

"Native born Americans" in Texas commit more crime than illegal aliens because Texas has a lot of black people. But in states that don't have a lot of black people, "Native born Americans" commit less crimes than illegal aliens. From YOUR OWN SOURCE.

You walked into yet another mess echoing alt-right white supremacists when they say blacks commit a lot of crime. This isn't the first time you've done this. It's almost as if you've never been to the US, know nothing about it, or are a white supremacist. One of those things has to be true.
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STOP LYING!

Nowhere, literally NOWHERE in that link does it say what you are quoting. The word "black" does not even appear at all (and nor does "African")

You are also lying about what you are lying about....

"Native born Americans" in Texas commit more crime than illegal aliens because Texas has a lot of black people."

According to the 2018 US Census Bureau estimates, the population of Texas was...
73.5% White (including both Hispanic and non-Hispanic White)
11.8% Black or African American14.7% Other races (incl Asian, NA, Pacific Islander and people of two or more races)
https://data.census.gov/cedsci/tabl...18&layer=county&cid=B03002_001E&g=0400000US48


According to the 2018 US Census Bureau, the population of the USA as a whole was...
76.5% White (including both Hispanic and non-Hispanic White)
13.4% Black or African American10.1% Other races (incl Asian, NA, Pacific Islander and people of two or more races)
https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/US/PST045219

This drives a Mack truck hauling a 50 ton trailer right through your bull-****! Texas has, in fact, a lower % population of African Americans than the US average.... you've been caught lying... again!
 
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smartcooky said:
STOP LYING!

Nowhere, literally NOWHERE in that link does it say what you are quoting. The word "black" does not even appear at all (and nor does "African")
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BUT WE KNOW WHO COMMITS THE MAJORITY OF HOMICIDES IN THE US.

smartcooky said:
You are also lying about what you are lying about....

"Native born Americans" in Texas commit more crime than illegal aliens because Texas has a lot of black people."

According to the 2018 US Census Bureau estimates, the population of Texas was...
73.5% White (including both Hispanic and non-Hispanic White)
11.8% Black or African American14.7% Other races (incl Asian, NA, Pacific Islander and people of two or more races)
https://data.census.gov/cedsci/tabl...18&layer=county&cid=B03002_001E&g=0400000US48


According to the 2018 US Census Bureau, the population of the USA as a whole was...
76.5% White (including both Hispanic and non-Hispanic White)
13.4% Black or African American10.1% Other races (incl Asian, NA, Pacific Islander and people of two or more races)
https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/US/PST045219

This drives a Mack truck hauling a 50 ton trailer right through your bull-****! Texas has, in fact, a lower % population of African Americans than the US average.... you've been caught lying... again!
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This actually has nothing to do with anything. We know who commits the crime in the US (the people you don't like but try to obfuscate this with red herrings). The article you linked to can be summarized as "illegal aliens commit less crime than 'native born Americans' because black people commit so much crime." This is your argument. Your talking point. You were more than happy to gloat about how much crimes Americans commit, now you're running away. Own up.
 
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Baylor said:
This has nothing to do with anything.

Smartcooky's claim, backed by his alt-right source:

"Native born Americans" in Texas commit more crime than illegal aliens because Texas has a lot of black people. But in states that don't have a lot of black people, "Native born Americans" commit less crimes than illegal aliens. From YOUR OWN SOURCE.

You walked into yet another mess echoing alt-right white supremacists when they say blacks commit a lot of crime. This isn't the first time you've done this. It's almost as if you've never been to the US, know nothing about it, or are a white supremacist. One of those things has to be true.
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Gee, ever since you've revealed yourself to be a white nationalist, your posts have gotten far less subtle.
 
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