Covid-19 and toilet paper hysteria - Page 6

zooterkin · 13th March 2020, 11:41 PM

Originally Posted by rjh01

Now the company [whogivesacrap] is out of stock of TP. Has been for a week or more.

Actually, they aren’t. They are not taking new subscribers, who are signing up to panic-buy, so they can continue to supply their existing customers.

dann · 13th March 2020, 11:55 PM

Ha! Now we can keep our borders closed forever!

Quote:

Tre kvinder er gået på jagt efter investorer til deres bæredygtige hygiejnebind. Da de ikke kunne finde produktet i butikkerne, gik de i gang med selv at udvikle det.
Studerende udvikler bæredygtige hygiejnebind af danske planter

Three women have started looking for investors for their sustainable sanitary napkins. Since they couldn't find the product in the shops, they began to develop it themselves.
Students develop sustainable sanitary napkins from Danish plants

AnonyMoose · 14th March 2020, 01:57 AM

Welp... it's official, the end of the world is nigh.

Watching my local news, apparently Canadians are now panic buying too. Hour-long lineups, pushing, shoving, and almost getting into fist fights at the stores. Interviewing people in the parking lots, they're all complaining about how rude people have gotten.

When Canadians start getting rude with each other, pushing and shoving their way into line.... you know it's truly the end of the world.

*sniffle*

Mike! · 14th March 2020, 06:39 AM

Originally Posted by AnonyMoose

Welp... it's official, the end of the world is nigh.

Watching my local news, apparently Canadians are now panic buying too. Hour-long lineups, pushing, shoving, and almost getting into fist fights at the stores. Interviewing people in the parking lots, they're all complaining about how rude people have gotten.

When Canadians start getting rude with each other, pushing and shoving their way into line.... you know it's truly the end of the world.

*sniffle*

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Myriad · 14th March 2020, 10:13 AM

Grocery stores now sold out of many items, in this area (where we have no official cases yet). Some people this morning were in there buying for relatives in New York where it's harder to find stuff.

The stuff people would hoard a whole shopping cart full (pasta, rice, some canned goods), and of course toilet paper, are sold out. Most shoppers' carts were moderately full with a variety of items. That is, they didn't look like panicked hoarders loading up on one thing or a few things, but instead people doing their weekly shopping early. Some of them were probably people who don't typically do "weekly" shopping but instead run in for what they need every couple days, but today they're making an exception.

There was a rumor, though, that a couple of customers at the nearby Walmart got into a fight over some item last night.

Yesterday afternoon it wasn't clear that the empty shelf sections at Aldi were due to them actually being short of items, rather than just being too busy to restock because of the large number of customers. But very few items were restocked (and those, only in small amounts) for this morning.

Stocking up on (not hoarding) food seems completely sensible to me, under the circumstances. There's no issue with the food supply, the shortages are short-term, and even in most places where "everything" is closed, grocery stores (along with drugstores and gas stations) stay open. But people are expecting to isolate themselves for two weeks or more in the near future, either because they get the disease and don't want to spread it, or to protect themselves from getting it. If everything is closed except grocery stores, guess where the disease is going to spread. People are stocking up now because they don't want to have to make grocery runs later, not because they think they won't be able to.

Elagabalus · 14th March 2020, 10:23 AM

Originally Posted by Myriad

Grocery stores now sold out of many items, in this area (where we have no official cases yet). Some people this morning were in there buying for relatives in New York where it's harder to find stuff.

The stuff people would hoard a whole shopping cart full (pasta, rice, some canned goods), and of course toilet paper, are sold out. Most shoppers' carts were moderately full with a variety of items. That is, they didn't look like panicked hoarders loading up on one thing or a few things, but instead people doing their weekly shopping early. Some of them were probably people who don't typically do "weekly" shopping but instead run in for what they need every couple days, but today they're making an exception.

There was a rumor, though, that a couple of customers at the nearby Walmart got into a fight over some item last night.

Yesterday afternoon it wasn't clear that the empty shelf sections at Aldi were due to them actually being short of items, rather than just being too busy to restock because of the large number of customers. But very few items were restocked (and those, only in small amounts) for this morning.

Stocking up on (not hoarding) food seems completely sensible to me, under the circumstances. There's no issue with the food supply, the shortages are short-term, and even in most places where "everything" is closed, grocery stores (along with drugstores and gas stations) stay open. But people are expecting to isolate themselves for two weeks or more in the near future, either because they get the disease and don't want to spread it, or to protect themselves from getting it. If everything is closed except grocery stores, guess where the disease is going to spread. People are stocking up now because they don't want to have to make grocery runs later, not because they think they won't be able to.

OK, Boomer Hoarder!

Myriad · 14th March 2020, 10:31 AM

Originally Posted by Elagabalus

OK, Boomer Hoarder!

Say what now? I never humored a border in my life.

Delphic Oracle · 14th March 2020, 10:38 AM

Water is the one that concerns me. That one brings a lot more visceral anxiety than a lot of the other "supplies" snagged as a "hedging my bets" move.

I certainly could see a lot of fist fights over that if tgere are big gaps in availability.

Steve · 14th March 2020, 10:43 AM

Originally Posted by Delphic Oracle

Water is the one that concerns me. That one brings a lot more visceral anxiety than a lot of the other "supplies" snagged as a "hedging my bets" move.

I certainly could see a lot of fist fights over that if tgere are big gaps in availability.

I can’t see a virus shutting down municipal water supplies.

Darat · 14th March 2020, 10:51 AM

Originally Posted by Delphic Oracle

Water is the one that concerns me. That one brings a lot more visceral anxiety than a lot of the other "supplies" snagged as a "hedging my bets" move.

I certainly could see a lot of fist fights over that if tgere are big gaps in availability.

If it got very bad it could result in water processing facilities shutting down, but I'm certain that if that happened the government would draft people in. Perhaps if you had a plumbing problem either in the street or internally you may find it takes much longer to get it resolved . But remember most people are going to get little to no symptoms so we wont see terrible disruption to essential services like power and water.

AnonyMoose · 14th March 2020, 11:35 AM

A Dutch toilet paper warehouse worker taunting and laughing at the TP hoarders:

Hardy har har

Priceless.

Delphic Oracle · 14th March 2020, 12:11 PM

Originally Posted by Steve

I can’t see a virus shutting down municipal water supplies.

Oh, I was assuming rationality would have nothing to do with it.

Rolfe · 14th March 2020, 12:39 PM

Originally Posted by Myriad

Stocking up on (not hoarding) food seems completely sensible to me, under the circumstances. There's no issue with the food supply, the shortages are short-term, and even in most places where "everything" is closed, grocery stores (along with drugstores and gas stations) stay open. But people are expecting to isolate themselves for two weeks or more in the near future, either because they get the disease and don't want to spread it, or to protect themselves from getting it. If everything is closed except grocery stores, guess where the disease is going to spread. People are stocking up now because they don't want to have to make grocery runs later, not because they think they won't be able to.

I couldn't agree more. Hoarding more than one can reasonably use is selfish and irresponsible, but making sure one can go a couple of weeks withoug going to the shop if necessary is simple common sense.

Rolfe · 14th March 2020, 12:45 PM

Originally Posted by Darat

If it got very bad it could result in water processing facilities shutting down, but I'm certain that if that happened the government would draft people in. Perhaps if you had a plumbing problem either in the street or internally you may find it takes much longer to get it resolved . But remember most people are going to get little to no symptoms so we wont see terrible disruption to essential services like power and water.

The only thing that would faze me would be a lack of electricity. I wouldn't be able to keep warm or heat food or water with only a gas fire in a large living room. And the food in my freezer would spoil. My emergency plan for no electricity in cold weather has been to go to neighbours who have a log-fuelled stove, but I'm not planning to go near people if I can help it if this lot gets bad. But I think electricity will be the main priority for keeping things going. At least we're heading into warmer weather. Today was horrible.

I don't think water will be an issue either but the emergency plan for that involves the river and a bucket. And electricity to boil the stuff if possible.

Elagabalus · 14th March 2020, 12:47 PM

Originally Posted by Armitage72

I just came from the grocery store. Western New York State, and sections looked like a set from a zombie apocalypse movie. The store was sold out of flour. Do people think that we're going to have to start baking our own bread?

Just made some of my award winning rye ciabatta so I can use it on my award winning Ruben sandwiches made with pastramized corn beef brisket that's been sitting in my freezer for a year which was on hellacious sale after St. Paddy's Day. I will stock up again this year once the St. Paddy's day celebrations are over.

Three weeks ago I bought a 20 pound bag of Jasmin rice and divvied it up into 7 freezer bags (like I always do) and I believe that I am currently on bag 6 of 7 so all good there. I was a bit concerned about my dried beans allotment but then I remembered last year when a local market was changing owners I scored a 6 lb 12 oz. (3 kg) can of black beans for some ridiculous price like $2.50! And I bought the same size can of corn which was right next to it because why not?

And this morning I snagged the last pack of Charmin Mega 16=64 Ultra Soft TP which makes me the King of the Hill in my town! You want anything done in this town, you better talk to me!!

Mwahahahahahahahahahahahahaha ... cough ...!

alfaniner · 14th March 2020, 01:19 PM

Originally Posted by Elagabalus

Just made some of my award winning rye ciabatta so I can use it on my award winning Ruben sandwiches made with pastramized corn beef brisket that's been sitting in my freezer for a year which was on hellacious sale after St. Paddy's Day. I will stock up again this year once the St. Paddy's day celebrations are over.

Three weeks ago I bought a 20 pound bag of Jasmin rice and divvied it up into 7 freezer bags (like I always do) and I believe that I am currently on bag 6 of 7 so all good there. I was a bit concerned about my dried beans allotment but then I remembered last year when a local market was changing owners I scored a 6 lb 12 oz. (3 kg) can of black beans for some ridiculous price like $2.50! And I bought the same size can of corn which was right next to it because why not?

And this morning I snagged the last pack of Charmin Mega 16=64 Ultra Soft TP which makes me the King of the Hill in my town! You want anything done in this town, you better talk to me!!

Mwahahahahahahahahahahahahaha ... cough ...!

We'll be right over.
snik-snik-chk-chk-click!

Steve · 14th March 2020, 01:30 PM

Originally Posted by Delphic Oracle

Oh, I was assuming rationality would have nothing to do with it.

Point accepted.

Wolrab · 14th March 2020, 01:47 PM

Originally Posted by Armitage72

My boss' brother drives delivery trucks for Wegmans, a regional supermarket chain. This morning, people were lining up to grab toilet paper before it could be unloaded from the shipping pallets.

I just got back from the Canandaigua, NY Wegmans. Idiots bought up all the bottles of Witch Hazel! Meats, vegetable, pasta, spaghetti sauces, TP, tissues, rice, butter, margarine all sold out.

People are still polite and joking but it won't be long till it turns ugly.

My mom is a hoarder. We have staples and TP supplies for months. Children of the Depression are in their glory.

Garrison · 14th March 2020, 02:37 PM

I work in a team that does request management for a major engineering firm, handling software and hardware requests. All week we've been snowed under with requests for laptops, remote access software and security tokens. Friday they slapped down new financial restrictions and told us to start rejecting hardware requests. So yeah shoppers at the supermarket not the only ones panic buying.

alfaniner · 14th March 2020, 03:04 PM

Originally Posted by Garrison

I work in a team that does request management for a major engineering firm, handling software and hardware requests. All week we've been snowed under with requests for laptops, remote access software and security tokens. Friday they slapped down new financial restrictions and told us to start rejecting hardware requests. So yeah shoppers at the supermarket not the only ones panic buying.

I don't think remote working requests are a function of panic buying so much as a necessity if many more people are suddenly expected to work from home. I expect to see many, many company hacks due to poor security from hastily set up systems.

theprestige · 14th March 2020, 03:20 PM

Originally Posted by Steve

I can’t see a virus shutting down municipal water supplies.

I can. But it would have to be a lot worse than this one.

alfaniner · 14th March 2020, 03:23 PM

Here's the reason for the whole TP hysteria. If we're going to be locked up in our homes, we might as well get some pleasure out of it.

TragicMonkey · 14th March 2020, 03:41 PM

Originally Posted by alfaniner

Here's the reason for the whole TP hysteria. If we're going to be locked up in our homes, we might as well get some pleasure out of it.

Always makes me think of this:

http://chainsawsuit.com/comic/2015/0...-in-the-woods/

novaphile · 14th March 2020, 03:52 PM

Water doesn't bother me.

I have about 7,000 gallons of rainwater.

(All I have to do is open one valve and my whole place switches to rain water.)

Cut off the gas and electricity? Then I guess I'll have to use my camping stoves and barbecues (lots of wood on my little block too).

I can run the water circulation on my solar hot water heater with a single 12 volt solar panel (100 gallons in the storage tank)

My biggest concern is that some clown will try to steal my chickens and partridges.

TragicMonkey · 14th March 2020, 04:10 PM

Originally Posted by novaphile

My biggest concern is that some clown will try to steal my chickens and partridges.

Really? My problem is that chickens and partridges keep flying in and stealing my clowns. They swoop down and snatch them right out of the exercise yard. They've even broken into the clown coop a couple of times. I'm considering moving them to more secure clown quarters, but then I won't be able to market them as free-range clowns.

Elagabalus · 14th March 2020, 04:42 PM

Originally Posted by TragicMonkey

Really? My problem is that chickens and partridges keep flying in and stealing my clowns. They swoop down and snatch them right out of the exercise yard. They've even broken into the clown coop a couple of times. I'm considering moving them to more secure clown quarters, but then I won't be able to market them as free-range clowns.

Just throw them into the clown car. They'll be OK.

casebro · 14th March 2020, 05:33 PM

Once I start running low on the 22 lbs of turkey I;ll have to go full Keto. There's a 50 lb block of beef shortening on the kitchen floor.

Serious advice: Don't be throwing any grease away if starvation is a real possibility. Garden trimmings are probably edible deep fat fried and with enough salt.

Can you do green Loquats like fried green tomatoes?

rjh01 · 14th March 2020, 06:34 PM

Went to our supermarket today. No TP and no tissues. A few other bare spots. Hope the problem is solved soon.

Steve · 14th March 2020, 07:00 PM

Went to Canadian tire today for light bulbs. There was a pallet of tp near the entrance. Limit one 12 pack per customer. We have a good supply at home but I bought one “just in case”.

a_unique_person · 14th March 2020, 08:38 PM

Reported!

Steve · 14th March 2020, 08:39 PM

Originally Posted by a_unique_person

Reported!

I was worried about that when I posted.

cullennz · 14th March 2020, 08:43 PM

Originally Posted by Steve

Went to Canadian tire today for light bulbs. There was a pallet of tp near the entrance. Limit one 12 pack per customer. We have a good supply at home but I bought one “just in case”.

Shocking. Truely shocking.

I for one haven't forgotten the true horror.

The world descending into hell in ten years.

People conveniently forget the carbon footprint of toilet paper makery.

I rush out and wipe against my neighbour's apple tree.

Slight chaffing, but it is an ends to the means

Steve · 14th March 2020, 08:50 PM

Originally Posted by cullennz

Shocking. Truely shocking.

I for one haven't forgotten the true horror.

The world descending into hell in ten years.

People conveniently forget the carbon footprint of toilet paper makery.

I rush out and wipe against my neighbour's apple tree.

Slight chaffing, but it is an ends to the means

My neighbour has no apple tree.

Sherkeu · 14th March 2020, 09:18 PM

TP is short supply, grocery had none, and we were down to 2 rolls so..

I went to the local convenience store and the Iranian man sold me 3 rolls of single wrap TP, made in Thailand.

Actually, after commiserating about how he had to argue a woman in the aisle of the supply store for the 'right' to buy (though there was supply left) and showing me a video, he just gave me the rolls...no charge.

casebro · 14th March 2020, 09:22 PM

We return you now to the days of yesteryear: Wash cloths and diaper pails.

bigred · 14th March 2020, 09:33 PM

Originally Posted by cullennz

Pretty weird.

Not sure about other places, but people are bulk buying the stuff.

It is getting a bit silly.

Replace "pretty weird" with "severely stupid" and "a bit silly" with "completely insane" and you're a lot closer to the mark.

A lot of people are morons and these are the same ones who seem to breed like cockroaches. This is news? These are the same village idiots who buy TP, milk and bread like a nuclear holocaust is about to happen when the weather calls for a snow storm, as if it's going to isolate them from the world for months.

But! I suspect the militia men and germaphobes are partying like it's 19....uhh 2020.

cullennz · 14th March 2020, 09:37 PM

Quite weird

No one will know where I am talking about so

Johnsonville and Newlands (wellington)

One small hill separates both. (About 5 minutes drive)

Johnsonville massive supermarkets out of bog roll. Empty shelves.

Newlands tiny one all is normal. Packed shelves.

Verdict. Newlands people are less dim the Johnsonville people.

Elagabalus · 14th March 2020, 09:40 PM

Originally Posted by Wolrab

...Children of the Depression are in their glory.

R U kidding? They're in the zone!*

*unlike the Boomers who could never deny themselves any bit of self-indulgence. But it was all to set us free!!

Nosi · 14th March 2020, 10:19 PM

Originally Posted by Darat

Strangely in the supermarket the rice aisle (with an a!) was stocked as usual.

All the large quantity rice and dry beans were gone in the grocery store, as were the toilet paper.

crackers · 14th March 2020, 10:38 PM

Same at my local grocery store. Milk and eggs gone too, and not much pasta left.

13th March 2020, 11:41 PM	#201
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13th March 2020, 11:55 PM	#202
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14th March 2020, 01:57 AM	#203
AnonyMoose Graduate Poster Join Date: May 2018 Location: Land of the Frozen Chosen Posts: 1,000	Welp... it's official, the end of the world is nigh. Watching my local news, apparently Canadians are now panic buying too. Hour-long lineups, pushing, shoving, and almost getting into fist fights at the stores. Interviewing people in the parking lots, they're all complaining about how rude people have gotten. When Canadians start getting rude with each other, pushing and shoving their way into line.... you know it's truly the end of the world. sniffle
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14th March 2020, 10:13 AM	#205
Myriad The Clarity Is Devastating Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Betwixt Posts: 17,293	Grocery stores now sold out of many items, in this area (where we have no official cases yet). Some people this morning were in there buying for relatives in New York where it's harder to find stuff. The stuff people would hoard a whole shopping cart full (pasta, rice, some canned goods), and of course toilet paper, are sold out. Most shoppers' carts were moderately full with a variety of items. That is, they didn't look like panicked hoarders loading up on one thing or a few things, but instead people doing their weekly shopping early. Some of them were probably people who don't typically do "weekly" shopping but instead run in for what they need every couple days, but today they're making an exception. There was a rumor, though, that a couple of customers at the nearby Walmart got into a fight over some item last night. Yesterday afternoon it wasn't clear that the empty shelf sections at Aldi were due to them actually being short of items, rather than just being too busy to restock because of the large number of customers. But very few items were restocked (and those, only in small amounts) for this morning. Stocking up on (not hoarding) food seems completely sensible to me, under the circumstances. There's no issue with the food supply, the shortages are short-term, and even in most places where "everything" is closed, grocery stores (along with drugstores and gas stations) stay open. But people are expecting to isolate themselves for two weeks or more in the near future, either because they get the disease and don't want to spread it, or to protect themselves from getting it. If everything is closed except grocery stores, guess where the disease is going to spread. People are stocking up now because they don't want to have to make grocery runs later, not because they think they won't be able to.
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14th March 2020, 10:23 AM	#206
Elagabalus Philosopher Join Date: Dec 2013 Posts: 6,906	Originally Posted by Myriad Grocery stores now sold out of many items, in this area (where we have no official cases yet). Some people this morning were in there buying for relatives in New York where it's harder to find stuff. The stuff people would hoard a whole shopping cart full (pasta, rice, some canned goods), and of course toilet paper, are sold out. Most shoppers' carts were moderately full with a variety of items. That is, they didn't look like panicked hoarders loading up on one thing or a few things, but instead people doing their weekly shopping early. Some of them were probably people who don't typically do "weekly" shopping but instead run in for what they need every couple days, but today they're making an exception. There was a rumor, though, that a couple of customers at the nearby Walmart got into a fight over some item last night. Yesterday afternoon it wasn't clear that the empty shelf sections at Aldi were due to them actually being short of items, rather than just being too busy to restock because of the large number of customers. But very few items were restocked (and those, only in small amounts) for this morning. Stocking up on (not hoarding) food seems completely sensible to me, under the circumstances. There's no issue with the food supply, the shortages are short-term, and even in most places where "everything" is closed, grocery stores (along with drugstores and gas stations) stay open. But people are expecting to isolate themselves for two weeks or more in the near future, either because they get the disease and don't want to spread it, or to protect themselves from getting it. If everything is closed except grocery stores, guess where the disease is going to spread. People are stocking up now because they don't want to have to make grocery runs later, not because they think they won't be able to. OK, Boomer Hoarder!
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14th March 2020, 10:31 AM	#207
Myriad The Clarity Is Devastating Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Betwixt Posts: 17,293	Originally Posted by Elagabalus OK, Boomer Hoarder! Say what now? I never humored a border in my life.
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14th March 2020, 10:38 AM	#208
Delphic Oracle Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2016 Posts: 5,294	Water is the one that concerns me. That one brings a lot more visceral anxiety than a lot of the other "supplies" snagged as a "hedging my bets" move. I certainly could see a lot of fist fights over that if tgere are big gaps in availability.

14th March 2020, 10:43 AM	#209
Steve Philosopher Join Date: May 2005 Location: Sydney Nova Scotia Posts: 8,075	Originally Posted by Delphic Oracle Water is the one that concerns me. That one brings a lot more visceral anxiety than a lot of the other "supplies" snagged as a "hedging my bets" move. I certainly could see a lot of fist fights over that if tgere are big gaps in availability. I can’t see a virus shutting down municipal water supplies.
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14th March 2020, 10:51 AM	#210
Darat Lackey Administrator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: South East, UK Posts: 96,145	Originally Posted by Delphic Oracle Water is the one that concerns me. That one brings a lot more visceral anxiety than a lot of the other "supplies" snagged as a "hedging my bets" move. I certainly could see a lot of fist fights over that if tgere are big gaps in availability. If it got very bad it could result in water processing facilities shutting down, but I'm certain that if that happened the government would draft people in. Perhaps if you had a plumbing problem either in the street or internally you may find it takes much longer to get it resolved . But remember most people are going to get little to no symptoms so we wont see terrible disruption to essential services like power and water.
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14th March 2020, 11:35 AM	#211
AnonyMoose Graduate Poster Join Date: May 2018 Location: Land of the Frozen Chosen Posts: 1,000	A Dutch toilet paper warehouse worker taunting and laughing at the TP hoarders: Hardy har har Priceless.
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14th March 2020, 12:11 PM	#212
Delphic Oracle Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2016 Posts: 5,294	Originally Posted by Steve I can’t see a virus shutting down municipal water supplies. Oh, I was assuming rationality would have nothing to do with it.

14th March 2020, 12:39 PM	#213
Rolfe Anti-homeopathy illuminati member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: NT 150 511 Posts: 46,405	Originally Posted by Myriad Stocking up on (not hoarding) food seems completely sensible to me, under the circumstances. There's no issue with the food supply, the shortages are short-term, and even in most places where "everything" is closed, grocery stores (along with drugstores and gas stations) stay open. But people are expecting to isolate themselves for two weeks or more in the near future, either because they get the disease and don't want to spread it, or to protect themselves from getting it. If everything is closed except grocery stores, guess where the disease is going to spread. People are stocking up now because they don't want to have to make grocery runs later, not because they think they won't be able to. I couldn't agree more. Hoarding more than one can reasonably use is selfish and irresponsible, but making sure one can go a couple of weeks withoug going to the shop if necessary is simple common sense.
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14th March 2020, 12:45 PM	#214
Rolfe Anti-homeopathy illuminati member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: NT 150 511 Posts: 46,405	Originally Posted by Darat If it got very bad it could result in water processing facilities shutting down, but I'm certain that if that happened the government would draft people in. Perhaps if you had a plumbing problem either in the street or internally you may find it takes much longer to get it resolved . But remember most people are going to get little to no symptoms so we wont see terrible disruption to essential services like power and water. The only thing that would faze me would be a lack of electricity. I wouldn't be able to keep warm or heat food or water with only a gas fire in a large living room. And the food in my freezer would spoil. My emergency plan for no electricity in cold weather has been to go to neighbours who have a log-fuelled stove, but I'm not planning to go near people if I can help it if this lot gets bad. But I think electricity will be the main priority for keeping things going. At least we're heading into warmer weather. Today was horrible. I don't think water will be an issue either but the emergency plan for that involves the river and a bucket. And electricity to boil the stuff if possible.
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14th March 2020, 12:47 PM	#215
Elagabalus Philosopher Join Date: Dec 2013 Posts: 6,906	Originally Posted by Armitage72 I just came from the grocery store. Western New York State, and sections looked like a set from a zombie apocalypse movie. The store was sold out of flour. Do people think that we're going to have to start baking our own bread? Just made some of my award winning rye ciabatta so I can use it on my award winning Ruben sandwiches made with pastramized corn beef brisket that's been sitting in my freezer for a year which was on hellacious sale after St. Paddy's Day. I will stock up again this year once the St. Paddy's day celebrations are over. Three weeks ago I bought a 20 pound bag of Jasmin rice and divvied it up into 7 freezer bags (like I always do) and I believe that I am currently on bag 6 of 7 so all good there. I was a bit concerned about my dried beans allotment but then I remembered last year when a local market was changing owners I scored a 6 lb 12 oz. (3 kg) can of black beans for some ridiculous price like $2.50! And I bought the same size can of corn which was right next to it because why not? And this morning I snagged the last pack of Charmin Mega 16=64 Ultra Soft TP which makes me the King of the Hill in my town! You want anything done in this town, you better talk to me!! Mwahahahahahahahahahahahahaha ... cough ...!
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14th March 2020, 01:19 PM	#216
alfaniner Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 24,626	Originally Posted by Elagabalus Just made some of my award winning rye ciabatta so I can use it on my award winning Ruben sandwiches made with pastramized corn beef brisket that's been sitting in my freezer for a year which was on hellacious sale after St. Paddy's Day. I will stock up again this year once the St. Paddy's day celebrations are over. Three weeks ago I bought a 20 pound bag of Jasmin rice and divvied it up into 7 freezer bags (like I always do) and I believe that I am currently on bag 6 of 7 so all good there. I was a bit concerned about my dried beans allotment but then I remembered last year when a local market was changing owners I scored a 6 lb 12 oz. (3 kg) can of black beans for some ridiculous price like $2.50! And I bought the same size can of corn which was right next to it because why not? And this morning I snagged the last pack of Charmin Mega 16=64 Ultra Soft TP which makes me the King of the Hill in my town! You want anything done in this town, you better talk to me!! Mwahahahahahahahahahahahahaha ... cough ...! We'll be right over. snik-snik-chk-chk-click!
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14th March 2020, 01:30 PM	#217
Steve Philosopher Join Date: May 2005 Location: Sydney Nova Scotia Posts: 8,075	Originally Posted by Delphic Oracle Oh, I was assuming rationality would have nothing to do with it. Point accepted.
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14th March 2020, 01:47 PM	#218
Wolrab Illuminator Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 4,747	Originally Posted by Armitage72 My boss' brother drives delivery trucks for Wegmans, a regional supermarket chain. This morning, people were lining up to grab toilet paper before it could be unloaded from the shipping pallets. I just got back from the Canandaigua, NY Wegmans. Idiots bought up all the bottles of Witch Hazel! Meats, vegetable, pasta, spaghetti sauces, TP, tissues, rice, butter, margarine all sold out. People are still polite and joking but it won't be long till it turns ugly. My mom is a hoarder. We have staples and TP supplies for months. Children of the Depression are in their glory.
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14th March 2020, 02:37 PM	#219
Garrison Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: UK Posts: 5,479	I work in a team that does request management for a major engineering firm, handling software and hardware requests. All week we've been snowed under with requests for laptops, remote access software and security tokens. Friday they slapped down new financial restrictions and told us to start rejecting hardware requests. So yeah shoppers at the supermarket not the only ones panic buying.
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14th March 2020, 03:04 PM	#220
alfaniner Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 24,626	Originally Posted by Garrison I work in a team that does request management for a major engineering firm, handling software and hardware requests. All week we've been snowed under with requests for laptops, remote access software and security tokens. Friday they slapped down new financial restrictions and told us to start rejecting hardware requests. So yeah shoppers at the supermarket not the only ones panic buying. I don't think remote working requests are a function of panic buying so much as a necessity if many more people are suddenly expected to work from home. I expect to see many, many company hacks due to poor security from hastily set up systems.
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14th March 2020, 03:20 PM	#221
theprestige Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 48,643	Originally Posted by Steve I can’t see a virus shutting down municipal water supplies. I can. But it would have to be a lot worse than this one.

14th March 2020, 03:41 PM	#223
TragicMonkey Poisoned Waffles Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Monkey Posts: 58,987	Originally Posted by alfaniner Here's the reason for the whole TP hysteria. If we're going to be locked up in our homes, we might as well get some pleasure out of it. Always makes me think of this: http://chainsawsuit.com/comic/2015/0...-in-the-woods/
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14th March 2020, 03:52 PM	#224
novaphile Quester of Doglets Moderator Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Sunny South Australia Posts: 2,931	Water doesn't bother me. I have about 7,000 gallons of rainwater. (All I have to do is open one valve and my whole place switches to rain water.) Cut off the gas and electricity? Then I guess I'll have to use my camping stoves and barbecues (lots of wood on my little block too). I can run the water circulation on my solar hot water heater with a single 12 volt solar panel (100 gallons in the storage tank) My biggest concern is that some clown will try to steal my chickens and partridges.
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14th March 2020, 04:10 PM	#225
TragicMonkey Poisoned Waffles Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Monkey Posts: 58,987	Originally Posted by novaphile My biggest concern is that some clown will try to steal my chickens and partridges. Really? My problem is that chickens and partridges keep flying in and stealing my clowns. They swoop down and snatch them right out of the exercise yard. They've even broken into the clown coop a couple of times. I'm considering moving them to more secure clown quarters, but then I won't be able to market them as free-range clowns.
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14th March 2020, 04:42 PM	#226
Elagabalus Philosopher Join Date: Dec 2013 Posts: 6,906	Originally Posted by TragicMonkey Really? My problem is that chickens and partridges keep flying in and stealing my clowns. They swoop down and snatch them right out of the exercise yard. They've even broken into the clown coop a couple of times. I'm considering moving them to more secure clown quarters, but then I won't be able to market them as free-range clowns. Just throw them into the clown car. They'll be OK.
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14th March 2020, 05:33 PM	#227
casebro Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 18,549	Once I start running low on the 22 lbs of turkey I;ll have to go full Keto. There's a 50 lb block of beef shortening on the kitchen floor. Serious advice: Don't be throwing any grease away if starvation is a real possibility. Garden trimmings are probably edible deep fat fried and with enough salt. Can you do green Loquats like fried green tomatoes?
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14th March 2020, 06:34 PM	#228
rjh01 Gentleman of leisure Tagger Join Date: May 2005 Location: Flying around in the sky Posts: 26,423	Went to our supermarket today. No TP and no tissues. A few other bare spots. Hope the problem is solved soon.
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14th March 2020, 07:00 PM	#229
Steve Philosopher Join Date: May 2005 Location: Sydney Nova Scotia Posts: 8,075	Went to Canadian tire today for light bulbs. There was a pallet of tp near the entrance. Limit one 12 pack per customer. We have a good supply at home but I bought one “just in case”.
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14th March 2020, 08:38 PM	#230
a_unique_person Director of Hatcheries and Conditioning Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Waiting for the pod bay door to open. Posts: 42,986	Reported!
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14th March 2020, 08:39 PM	#231
Steve Philosopher Join Date: May 2005 Location: Sydney Nova Scotia Posts: 8,075	Originally Posted by a_unique_person Reported! I was worried about that when I posted.
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14th March 2020, 08:43 PM	#232
cullennz Suspended Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 19,688	Originally Posted by Steve Went to Canadian tire today for light bulbs. There was a pallet of tp near the entrance. Limit one 12 pack per customer. We have a good supply at home but I bought one “just in case”. Shocking. Truely shocking. I for one haven't forgotten the true horror. The world descending into hell in ten years. People conveniently forget the carbon footprint of toilet paper makery. I rush out and wipe against my neighbour's apple tree. Slight chaffing, but it is an ends to the means
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14th March 2020, 08:50 PM	#233
Steve Philosopher Join Date: May 2005 Location: Sydney Nova Scotia Posts: 8,075	Originally Posted by cullennz Shocking. Truely shocking. I for one haven't forgotten the true horror. The world descending into hell in ten years. People conveniently forget the carbon footprint of toilet paper makery. I rush out and wipe against my neighbour's apple tree. Slight chaffing, but it is an ends to the means My neighbour has no apple tree.
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14th March 2020, 09:18 PM	#234
Sherkeu Master Poster Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Disneyland Posts: 2,023	TP is short supply, grocery had none, and we were down to 2 rolls so.. I went to the local convenience store and the Iranian man sold me 3 rolls of single wrap TP, made in Thailand. Actually, after commiserating about how he had to argue a woman in the aisle of the supply store for the 'right' to buy (though there was supply left) and showing me a video, he just gave me the rolls...no charge.

14th March 2020, 09:22 PM	#235
casebro Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 18,549	We return you now to the days of yesteryear: Wash cloths and diaper pails.
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14th March 2020, 09:33 PM	#236
bigred Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: USA Posts: 18,838	Originally Posted by cullennz Pretty weird. Not sure about other places, but people are bulk buying the stuff. It is getting a bit silly. Replace "pretty weird" with "severely stupid" and "a bit silly" with "completely insane" and you're a lot closer to the mark. A lot of people are morons and these are the same ones who seem to breed like cockroaches. This is news? These are the same village idiots who buy TP, milk and bread like a nuclear holocaust is about to happen when the weather calls for a snow storm, as if it's going to isolate them from the world for months. But! I suspect the militia men and germaphobes are partying like it's 19....uhh 2020.

14th March 2020, 09:37 PM	#237
cullennz Suspended Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 19,688	Quite weird No one will know where I am talking about so Johnsonville and Newlands (wellington) One small hill separates both. (About 5 minutes drive) Johnsonville massive supermarkets out of bog roll. Empty shelves. Newlands tiny one all is normal. Packed shelves. Verdict. Newlands people are less dim the Johnsonville people.
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