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Old 15th April 2020, 11:00 AM   #121
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Originally Posted by rockysmith76 View Post
beats Communism or PC Dystopianism
Another great Trump campaign slogan.

The actual horror show we’re all living in now is better than the one in your paranoid fantasies!

Trump/Pence 2020
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Old 15th April 2020, 11:09 AM   #122
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Originally Posted by Lurch View Post
I may be mistaken, but is it not the case that Nature (read: God for the believers) terminates more pregnancies than does Man?

Absolutely true. Nature/God is the biggest abortionist. I suggest we close down churches that worship this murderer of children:
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New Research Shows Most Human Pregnancies End in Miscarriage

It's treated as a taboo subject, but miscarriages of pregnancy happen a lot.

Well according to a new paper, they happen a lot more than any of us may realise - even the women having them. The research has found that more than half of successful fertilisations will end in miscarriage.

The research, which has yet to be peer reviewed, was penned by evolutionary geneticist William Richard Rice of the University of California, Santa Barbara, and draws upon many previously conducted studies and health databases for a meta-analysis.

Previous research has found that somewhere between 10 and 20 percent, or as many as 1 in 4 known pregnancies end in miscarriage, also known medically as spontaneous abortion.

One study in Denmark, which included 1,221,546 pregnancies between 1978 and 1992, found the overall miscarriage rate was 13.5 percent.

Obviously that's going to vary by region and socioeconomic status, and the risk sharply increases by age.

But there's one other very important qualifier to note: Many women don't even know they're pregnant initially; and, since most miscarriages happen in the first 12 weeks of pregnancy, many miscarry without even knowing it's happening.
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Old 15th April 2020, 11:12 AM   #123
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Originally Posted by rockysmith76 View Post
beats Communism or PC Dystopianism
A rich fop doesn't need $1.7 mil that he'll just salt away anyway. But spread that out to 1,700 lower income people getting a grand apiece, and that's far better for the economy. Not to mention more humane. And more efficient in terms of spreading the love, so to speak. And better for fostering goodwill among the populace, which is generally a good thing when seeking re-election.

But nope. The powers that be prefer to dole out the 'charity for the rich'; that's the Republican version of socialism. Screw the little people.
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Old 15th April 2020, 11:13 AM   #124
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Wake me up when we get to the gun store debate and why gun stores are open.
Because, like the WWE, they're essential.

How else am I going to protect myself from the roving TP stealing hordes while drinking my beer and watching WWE?
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Old 15th April 2020, 11:22 AM   #125
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Originally Posted by Lurch View Post
A rich fop doesn't need $1.7 mil that he'll just salt away anyway. But spread that out to 1,700 lower income people getting a grand apiece,
Noooo! Giving away money to poor people in need is communism.

Apparently giving away money to rich people isn't.

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and that's far better for the economy. Not to mention more humane. And more efficient in terms of spreading the love, so to speak. And better for fostering goodwill among the populace, which is generally a good thing when seeking re-election.

But nope. The powers that be prefer to dole out the 'charity for the rich'; that's the Republican version of socialism. Screw the little people.

Social welfare is communism and therefore evil. Even if those most scared of Mccarthy's bogieman don't actually know what it is. They know it's bad though. Very very bad. (I imagine these people don't use roads, the fire service, DEA approved drugs, the police and other nasty, communist stuff. To do otherwise would be grossly hypocritical)
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Old 15th April 2020, 11:23 AM   #126
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Originally Posted by Stacyhs View Post
Because, like the WWE, they're essential.
Isn't 'essential' calculated on the basis of how much money one's given the Republican party?
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Old 15th April 2020, 11:45 AM   #127
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Nobody is going to be using those clinics for COVID19 patients.

Most abortion clinics don't even have many beds to begin with. Its mostly an outpatient procedure. Or do you think examination tables or gynocology exam chairs can be repurposed into critical care beds?
COVID patients in stirrups...

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Did you even think this through before you went on this rant? Or do you honestly think that one medical resource is as the same as another?
Of course not. This has nothing to do with COVID. It's all about stopping abortion with any excuse possible. It's not like they would be supporting abortion clinics being open if there weren't a COVID crisis.
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Old 15th April 2020, 11:54 AM   #128
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Originally Posted by 3point14 View Post
Isn't 'essential' calculated on the basis of how much money one's given the Republican party?
Or raising for Trump's re-election campaign. As in one Linda McMahon.
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Old 15th April 2020, 11:58 AM   #129
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Originally Posted by Lurch View Post
A rich fop doesn't need $1.7 mil that he'll just salt away anyway. But spread that out to 1,700 lower income people getting a grand apiece, and that's far better for the economy. Not to mention more humane. And more efficient in terms of spreading the love, so to speak. And better for fostering goodwill among the populace, which is generally a good thing when seeking re-election.

But nope. The powers that be prefer to dole out the 'charity for the rich'; that's the Republican version of socialism. Screw the little people.
I never said that, false nazification fallacy
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Old 15th April 2020, 12:34 PM   #130
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COVID patients in stirrups...



Of course not. This has nothing to do with COVID. It's all about stopping abortion with any excuse possible. It's not like they would be supporting abortion clinics being open if there weren't a COVID crisis.
Oh, I know. THe GOP figured out decades ago that they weren't going to change enough opinions about abortion to get anything resembling a majority, so they have been working steadily since to whittle away at limiting access and putting in restrictions.

Of late, they've been straight up 'as-good-as-banned' methods to their restrictions. Even worse is they often disguise the bills with Orwellian names like "Women's Health Care Initiative" and other creative doublespeak names. COVID19 is just another opportunity.

The fact that RockySmith acts like there is a legitimate medical use for these facilities in the fight against COVID19 shows either pig-ignorance of medical facilities or blind allegiance to a right-wing cause. Given his telling "keep your legs shut, whore!" comment earlier I'm gonna assume the latter.
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Old 15th April 2020, 02:10 PM   #131
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which has nothing to do with why abortion should be singled out and made special during an outbreak?
I really have no idea why you think abortion should be singled out and made special during an outbreak. Except you have hinted at pregnancies being punishment on women for having sex, and apparently think that telling pregnant women to not have gotten pregnant in the first place is in any way useful instructions. How about you answer the question about why a time-limited procedure that greatly reduces an individual's risk in a full-blown pandemic is actually non-essential and can wait for six months to a year?

People, please stop talking about abortion clinics. There are no abortion clinics. What Republicans are foaming at the mouth over are medical clinics aimed at protecting the reproductive health of low income men and women. Prenatal care, STD testing, routine checkups, treatment that people aren't going to be able to afford at a dermatology clinic and not enough of an emergency for urgent care. One of the Planned Parenthood shops protested and shuttered never performed a single abortion but that wasn't good enough.
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Old 15th April 2020, 02:24 PM   #132
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-epidemic.html

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Kellyanne Conway, during an appearance on Fox News Wednesday, suggested there were 18 previous viruses ahead of the coronavirus that could have become pandemics and that the World Health Organization was acting irresponsible when it came to global well-being.

'This is COVID-19, not COVID-1 folks, and so you would think the people in charge of the World Health Organization, facts and figures, would be on top of that,' Conway, who serves as White House counselor, charged during an appearance on 'Fox & Friends.'

The disease was named COVID-19 because it's from the coronavirus family - which can include strains that mimic the common cold - and was first detected in the year 2019.
Is she this stupid, or does she think her target audience is that stupid? Or both?
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-epidemic.html



Is she this stupid, or does she think her target audience is that stupid? Or both?
She and her husband get together at night and laugh.

She KNOWS her target audience is that stupid.
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Old 15th April 2020, 02:52 PM   #134
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She and her husband get together at night and laugh.



She KNOWS her target audience is that stupid.
I checked his Twitter a couple of hours ago; he wasn't saying anything about it.
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Old 15th April 2020, 03:06 PM   #135
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Is she this stupid, or does she think her target audience is that stupid? Or both?
I noticed that not a single one of the Fox & Friends hosts corrected Conway on her stupid and false claim. I did a quick Twitter search and found a couple definitely pro-Trump; not a word about Conway's covid 19 remark.
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I noticed that not a single one of the Fox & Friends hosts corrected Conway on her stupid and false claim. I did a quick Twitter search and found a couple definitely pro-Trump; not a word about Conway's covid 19 remark.
You think any of the cast of Fox and Friends actually know the naming convention behind COVID-19? Besides being Trump lovers who would be first in line to lick his dirty *******, they frequently demonstrate that they're just abysmally dumb.
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You think any of the cast of Fox and Friends actually know the naming convention behind COVID-19? Besides being Trump lovers who would be first in line to lick his dirty *******, they frequently demonstrate that they're just abysmally dumb.
Good point. I forgot about whom we're talking here.

Steve Doocy: Trump gave him a 12 out of 10 for loyalty. He was also accused by Gretchen Carlson in her lawsuit against Roger: "Doocy engaged in a pattern and practice of severe and pervasive sexual harassment of Carlson, including, but not limited to, mocking her during commercial breaks, shunning her off air, refusing to engage with her on air, belittling her contributions to the show, and generally attempting to put her in her place by refusing to accept and treat her as an intelligent and insightful female journalist rather than a blond female prop."
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"[In the United States] we keep marrying other species and other ethnics..." See, the problem is the Swedes have pure genes. Because they marry other Swedes... Finns marry other Finns, so they have a pure society. In America we marry everybody, we marry Italians and Irish."
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bullsh****, when theres a shortage of beds theirs are as good as any for helping to stem the curve. Nothing absurd about it. Whats absurd is the obsession of one type treatment when all could be potentially impacted by the pandemic. Never mind there's a rising number of Covid patients each day, just keep flushing fetuses. That's absurd.
But it was already explained and you apparently chose to ignore that non surgical (requiring an actual bed etc) were included. Why would you stop that?

And flushing foetuses happens on a regular basis with or without abortion so why the outrage?
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Or maybe just keep ones legs shut. Seems simpler.
Or, you know, the guy could use a condom. Don't put this all on the woman. It's not like conception is immaculate here.
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So is this the anything re US politics and if relevant to coronavirus that's a bonus thread? Because I don't want to post off-topic.

Originally Posted by Resume View Post
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-epidemic.html

Is she this stupid, or does she think her target audience is that stupid? Or both?
I was annoyed the news media isn't addressing this issue so I went looking for the answer myself. No surprises found.

Fact check: President Donald Trump vs. the World Health Organization
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Claim: WHO was slow to respond...
Ruling: False

Claim: WHO is too friendly to China...
Ruling: No clear evidence either way

Claim: WHO advised the U.S. against banning travel from China...
Ruling: Mostly false...

...However, there is no public record of WHO at any point actively criticizing the U.S. or any other country for deciding to implement a coronavirus-related travel ban.

In fact, WHO has a longstanding objection to travel bans when it comes to infectious disease because it does not believe they necessarily work based on its experience combating Ebola, SARS, HIV, Tuberculosis and other communicable disease, and has been concerned such bans can aggravate an outbreak by creating a false sense of security. ...

WHO, in short, opposes all travel bans during a pandemic, not just Trump's, and not just related to COVID-19. Trump's assertion that the WHO "was wrong" can't be fact-checked because there is no alternative benchmark or denominator to match it against. In other words, we can't assess what the result would have been had a travel ban not been imposed. ...
Details can be read at the link.

These are the sources they cited:

White House media briefings
World Health Organization statements
U.S. Centers for Disease Control
Thomas J. Bollyky, Council on Foreign Relations
Think Global Health, a unit of Council on Foreign Relations
Yanzhong Huang, Seton Hall University
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If you consider that the answer and it is a reasonable standard for anyone to follow do you really want someone who couldn’t even manage that to be raising a child?
That might be the most considerate and reasonable response to such a sentiment that I've seen.
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Or, you know, the guy could use a condom. Don't put this all on the woman. It's not like conception is immaculate here.
[nitpick]I know this forum is less open to theological pedantry than most, but the purported Immaculate Conception was the conception of Mary, not Jesus. The biological mechanics were the same as for everyone else because Mary's parents were both humans, the magical bit was that somehow they didn't pass Original Sin to Mary.[/nitpick]
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[nitpick]I know this forum is less open to theological pedantry than most, but the purported Immaculate Conception was the conception of Mary, not Jesus. The biological mechanics were the same as for everyone else because Mary's parents were both humans, the magical bit was that somehow they didn't pass Original Sin to Mary.[/nitpick]
TM, I've read this three times and I'm still confused. I know I'm not the most versed when it comes to christian mythology... but I thought the whole thing was that Mary was a virgin untouched by man, but still managed to get knocked up by god. Your post reads like it's something totally different?
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TM, I've read this three times and I'm still confused. I know I'm not the most versed when it comes to christian mythology... but I thought the whole thing was that Mary was a virgin untouched by man, but still managed to get knocked up by god. Your post reads like it's something totally different?
It is. Separate event. Mary's parents, Sts Joachim and Anne, were normal humans. They banged in the normal fashion. However, Mary, being the future mother of the messiah, couldn't inherit Original Sin from them because then she'd pass it on to Jesus. So God miraculously intervened in Mary's conception, so she was the only human born free of Original Sin. That made her sufficiently "pure" to eventually serve as the human incubator for God's son/other personality/clone that was Jesus.

This is a purely Catholic doctrine, by the way, and it's only official since the 1850s. It was invented to get Catholic theology out of the corner of how Mary could be human and yet her kid not inherit Original Sin, which was supposed to be inherent to all humans after Adam and Eve. It's pretty much akin to just saying "magic happened!" but that's kind of par for the course for theology. It's asking too much for theology to maintain logical consistency when it's all wacky craziness in the first place.
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TM, I've read this three times and I'm still confused. I know I'm not the most versed when it comes to christian mythology... but I thought the whole thing was that Mary was a virgin untouched by man, but still managed to get knocked up by god. Your post reads like it's something totally different?
The immaculate conception was Mary. She was born without original sin, and thus worthy to bear the son of god. Or something like that.
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Originally Posted by Emily's Cat View Post
TM, I've read this three times and I'm still confused. I know I'm not the most versed when it comes to christian mythology... but I thought the whole thing was that Mary was a virgin untouched by man, but still managed to get knocked up by god. Your post reads like it's something totally different?
When many people hear the term "Immaculate Conception," they think it refers to the conception of Jesus. It doesn't—it refers to the conception of his mother Mary. Christian theology states every person is born with what's referred to as "original sin," which could be problematic for a young woman who is supposed to be carrying the Son of God. So Roman Catholic (and others? don't know) theology states that Mary herself was immaculately conceived, and thus did not carry the burden of original sin, and therefore was a pure vessel for the Son of God.

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Yep, it's surprising how many confuse the Immaculate Conception with the Virgin Birth ( birth of Jesus to the Virgin Mary).

I'm an atheist but I knew that.
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Remember that anti-Malarial drug Trump kept pushing as some sort of miracle cure? "How can it hurt" he said.

From: https://nationalpost.com/news/world/...1-patients-die
A possible treatment for COVID-19, heavily touted by U.S. President Donald Trump in recent weeks, has been withdrawn from high-dose use in a Brazilian trial because it was feared to be having adverse effects on patients’ hearts. Chloroquine...has inspired hope in some medical circles amid reports that it can help to offset the symptoms of the deadly virus. But the New York Times reports that a recent clinical trial saw patients develop irregular heartbeats, a number of whom developed heart arrhythmias and later died.

(I think someone else posted in another thread about other studies from Europe that wer likewise canceled amid problems.)

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Early reports are coming in, Trump's wishful thinking silver bullet isn't.

No evidence of clinical efficacy of hydroxychloroquine in patients hospitalized for COVID-19 infection with oxygen requirement: results of a study using routinely collected data to emulate a target trial
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... We used data collected from routine care of all adults in 4 French hospitals with documented SARS-CoV-2 pneumonia and requiring oxygen ≥ 2 L/min to emulate a target trial aimed at assessing the effectiveness of HCQ at 600 mg/day. The composite primary endpoint was transfer to intensive care unit (ICU) within 7 days from inclusion and/or death from any cause. Analyses were adjusted for confounding factors by inverse probability of treatment weighting. Results This study included 181 patients with SARS-CoV-2 pneumonia; 84 received HCQ within 48 hours of admission (HCQ group) and 97 did not (no-HCQ group). Initial severity was well balanced between the groups. In the weighted analysis, 20.2% patients in the HCQ group were transferred to the ICU or died within 7 days vs 22.1% in the no-HCQ group (16 vs 21 events, relative risk [RR] 0.91, 95% CI 0.47-1.80). In the HCQ group, 2.8% of the patients died within 7 days vs 4.6% in the no-HCQ group (3 vs 4 events, RR 0.61, 95% CI 0.13-2.89), and 27.4% and 24.1%, respectively, developed acute respiratory distress syndrome within 7 days (24 vs 23 events, RR 1.14, 95% CI 0.65-2.00). Eight patients receiving HCQ (9.5%) experienced electrocardiogram modifications requiring HCQ discontinuation. Interpretation These results do not support the use of HCQ in patients hospitalised for documented SARS-CoV-2-positive hypoxic pneumonia.
Same study, little different description of the study and results:
French study finds hydroxychloroquine doesn't help patients with coronavirus
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In the French study, doctors looked back at medical records for 181 patients with Covid-19 who had pneumonia and required supplemental oxygen. About half had taken hydroxychloroquine within 48 hours of being admitted to the hospital, and the other half had not.

The doctors followed the patients and found there was no statistically significant difference in the death rates of the two groups, or their chances of being admitted to the intensive care unit.
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Are you trying to tell us that (not a )Dr. Trump was blowing it out of his ****?
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Are you trying to tell us that (not a )Dr. Trump was blowing it out of his ****?



I would have been happy if it worked. But we all know how valid a couple anecdotal stories are to draw a conclusion from. I have already said, with as many people using this drug we would have known by now if it was working even without controlled trials. Such reports of success are not forthcoming.
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I would have been happy if it worked. But we all know how valid a couple anecdotal stories are to draw a conclusion from. I have already said, with as many people using this drug we would have known by now if it was working even without controlled trials. Such reports of success are not forthcoming.
Of course, it was silly to think it was going to be the silver bullet that people claimed. As a viral illness, wouldn't you think that, at best, it might work something like Tamiflu? I mean, we know Tamiflu works and stuff, but still tens of thousands of people die each year from the flu.

And think about cold medications. You might get some help with symptoms, but it's not like there are cures. Unless you can use a anti-histamine to dry things up, but that's a completely different situation.

Why should we expect anything dramatic with a COVID medication?
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TM, I've read this three times and I'm still confused. I know I'm not the most versed when it comes to christian mythology... but I thought the whole thing was that Mary was a virgin untouched by man, but still managed to get knocked up by god. Your post reads like it's something totally different?
A lot of people think that, but TragicMonkey is absolutely correct. The Immaculate Conception was the conception of Mary, not Jesus.

ETA: I suppose I should read to the end of the thread before responding, just to see if one or six other people have already responded.

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Of course, it was silly to think it was going to be the silver bullet that people claimed. As a viral illness, wouldn't you think that, at best, it might work something like Tamiflu? I mean, we know Tamiflu works and stuff, but still tens of thousands of people die each year from the flu.

And think about cold medications. You might get some help with symptoms, but it's not like there are cures. Unless you can use a anti-histamine to dry things up, but that's a completely different situation.

Why should we expect anything dramatic with a COVID medication?
I should think, we'd expect *something*. There wasn't even one more treated vs untreated person who had a better outcome. The drug hasn't helped at all.
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Going back to Kellyanne Conway's stupid "covid 19" statement, you know who made the same stupid statement? That (completely unearned) receiver of the Medal of Freedom recipient Rush Limbaugh:
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We're shutting down our country because of the --cold virus, which is what coronaviruses are. This is COVID-19, the 19th version of the coronavirus.
The Rush Limbaugh Show, March 13

If I were a recipient of the Medal of Freedom, I'd return it to Trump with a note saying "You've negated any meaning this once had."
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How anyone thinks the WWE is an essential service is beyond me. Keeping the WWE 'happy' is about as unimportant as it gets.
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So now Trump has announced that he will stop US funding to the WHO.

Though what they need with it, I don't know. Roger Daltrey's got a trout farm, for God's sake.
No to WHO, yes to WWE.

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Speaking of the WWE, Trump has appointed Vince McMahon to an advisory group dedicated to re-starting the economy

In the mean time, Vince's response to the pandemic has been to fire a bunch of employees.
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A bit of a loose fit for this thread, but probably better here than anywhere else: 60,000 protest Michigan stay-at-home order with a rally. Many were armed, and all were ignoring social distancing.

Two things the article doesn't mention that I've seen reported elsewhere: People were actually travelling from different states to join in, and the "causing gridlock" part of the protest blocked ambulances from getting in to hospitals.

I hope there are criminal charges for as many people involved as possible.
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I really have no idea why you think abortion should be singled out and made special during an outbreak.

His chosen news outlet told him to.
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It is. Separate event. Mary's parents, Sts Joachim and Anne, were normal humans. They banged in the normal fashion. However, Mary, being the future mother of the messiah, couldn't inherit Original Sin from them because then she'd pass it on to Jesus. So God miraculously intervened in Mary's conception, so she was the only human born free of Original Sin. That made her sufficiently "pure" to eventually serve as the human incubator for God's son/other personality/clone that was Jesus.

This is a purely Catholic doctrine, by the way, and it's only official since the 1850s. It was invented to get Catholic theology out of the corner of how Mary could be human and yet her kid not inherit Original Sin, which was supposed to be inherent to all humans after Adam and Eve. It's pretty much akin to just saying "magic happened!" but that's kind of par for the course for theology. It's asking too much for theology to maintain logical consistency when it's all wacky craziness in the first place.
Surely simpler to just say 'He's Jesus, therefore he didn't inherit 'cos he's special - he is the Messiah after all.' Religion is nuts...
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