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Buying a TV while Black
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None of that makes any sense. I did like the product placement for Sony and Lexus, though.
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Arrested for resisting arrest with no other actual crime alleged. The tell-tale sign of honest police work.
What crime could they have been investigating? The cops had already falsely accused the man of theft and been corrected by the store employees. Yet they become involved when the same man is back with the same TV attempting to get a refund in protest of their poor treatment. Sounds like their real crime was "contempt of cop". Side note, I've never seen cops on detail at a Costco. Sam's Club sounds like an awful place. |
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Let me guess: the store employee who intervened was black?
Because why else would they not concede at that point? |
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I'd like to see this as racism, but apparently that's not allowed and we have to examine Marvia Grey's history until we find out that she ran a stop sign in 1978 and is therefore a clear and present danger to society.
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How does it not make sense?
My ex and I bought a 60" (brand irrelevant) from Visions Electronics in Okotoks Alberta and when we couldn't get it to fit in her little SUV, we went and got my truck....the similarities end there since I'm a) white and b) not in America. If you meant it makes no sense to be beaten for the reason of being human and doing human things while black, I agree. |
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A police officer patrolling a supermarket parking lot in Missouri and accusing a black man of stealing the TV he's putting into his car makes some sense, but that just might be my bias talking.
Returning the TV to the store, out of protest over the cop, when the store took your side, doesn't make a lot of sense to me. You've got the TV, why not keep it? "Every time I turn on that TV, I'll remember how badly you were treated in the Sam's Club parking lot. I can't enjoy it now. Better return it." I guess? Four cops hanging out at the Sam's Club returns counter, waiting to throw a beating at the first black man to show up returning a TV, makes no sense at all. I assume the grievance claimed in the lawsuit is legitimate, but there seems to be a YUGE chunk of context missing from the story. At least, that's the way it seems to me, as I read the story on my Apple® MacBook Pro™ 15", while sipping the Folger's® Classic Roast™ coffee I brewed in my Mr. Coffee® Optimal Brew™ 10-Cup Programmable Coffee Maker with Thermal Carafe from my Kleen Kanteen® HydroFlask™, over my Xfinity® Performance Starter+™ high-speed Internet connection. |
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Why would you like to see it as racism? Why wouldn't you want to at least get some context to what happened?
Why would you have any preference at all, as to explanation, other than that it be an accurate explanation? I'd like to see this as a horrible misunderstanding, with everyone trying to do the right thing, and somehow ******* it all up horribly. But that doesn't seem very likely. Of course really I'd like to not see this at all, but that ship has sailed. Something happened, and whether I like it or not some people were probably being complete douchebags here. Hopefully not everybody, but no matter what I don't see a likeable viewpoint at all. The cops were being racist? I wouldn't like to see that. The customers were being jerks somehow? I wouldn't like to see that, either. It's all the store's fault? I wouldn't like to see that, either. Why is wanting to see this as racism your first reaction to the story? |
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It may simply be a case of stupid and racist cops, but I agree with TP on this one; there's something odd about the story here:
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And why would they return the TV due to the experience with the false allegations? The store has apparently done nothing wrong--an employee even helped out by intervening with the cop. |
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It's common practice for stores to pay police officers to work as security.
if the store was paying these cops to work as security for the store, it seems fair to hold the store partially culpable for the bad behavior of the police. Returning an item because the store invites cops to hassle their customers seems like a reasonable way to complain. Even if the police are not directly being paid by the store, if they are hanging out there, they do so tacit permission. |
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Why is this store letting these dumb cops loiter around if they are causing problems with the paying customers?
Dude bought a gigantic TV. Probably spent some real money only to get heckled by some meathead cop. I'd return the TV and never go back to a store that allows this to happen. |
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Exactly. It doesn't make sense that the store would do this. We're clearly missing an important part of the story. Specifically, the part that makes sense of what's been reported.
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You're taking the story at face value and assuming it's complete. I'm saying that at face value, the story is incomplete and doesn't make sense. I respect that you're trying to make sense of it, but I think that there's too much missing from the story for your efforts to have any hope of success. |
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Satire of the arguments and strawman positions typically proffered by racists when it's suggested that an incident might be racially motivated; firstly claim that the wimpy liberals want it to be racism, secondly attack the victim. Sorry if the sarcasm wasn't clear enough.
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Might be a while. The injured family has sued, the cops have clammed up and denied everything.
Like I said earlier, the hallmark of a BS arrest and cops covering their ass is the arrest charge for "resisting" with no underlying crime to justify the arrest. That alone is enough to imply that the cops aren't being totally earnest here. |
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Why would police arrest a guy hundreds of times for tresspassing while at work? That makes no sense clearly there must be some mysterious totally non racist explanation for everything in this case too.
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The first thing that came to my mind is that a 65in TV couldn’t fit in a Lexus SUV? I was able to fit a 75in one in my smaller Subaru SUV.
But that’s the only thing that doesn’t make sense. Harassment and assault of blacks doing nothing wrong by police, is SOP in the US. |
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How many teeth do you get broken when buying a TV? Clearly being assaulted by the police while buying a TV is a common place and unlike say being pulled over racially neutral act by them. If it was a traffic stop we of course would be able to prove it was racism with simple statistics.
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