Cont: ...knee to the back of the neck while black: until dead. Part 2

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Continuation thread, feel free to quote from and reference original thread. http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?p=13116928
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Thermal said:
"As a citizen concerned with waterway pollution..."
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You'll be glad to know then that Trump has done away with those anti-business regulations, you are now clear to pollute the waterways as you wish!



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ETA: And yes I know Trump isn't president of the UK, not until Johnson signs the deal anyway...
 
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Darat said:
Hard to claim he wasn’t. In fact pretty much impossible!

Reading the comments it is very apparent that the propaganda of the war years was more successful then its authors would ever have thought.
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Most of the population of the UK was rather explicitly racist back then. The same was true of the United States.
 
Darat said:
Hard to claim he wasn’t. In fact pretty much impossible!

Reading the comments it is very apparent that the propaganda of the war years was more successful then its authors would ever have thought.
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The entire British Empire was racist. The whole concept was racist. Churchill wanted to keep the empire. Of course he was racist. As was Rudyard Kiplling, and Her Majesty the Empress of India, and.....everyone. There may have been a very small handful of non-racists born in 19th century Britain, but it was a very small number indeed, and that goes for most people born in the first half of the 20th century as well.


Apparently, there was an explosion of virtue during the post war period, and the people born then were virtuous, good, and wholesome people, while all the people before them were rotten to the core. Maybe there was a fortuitous mutation that spread through the population increasing the virtuous behavior.

We should tear down all the statues of anyone born before 1950, prior to the onset of virtue in the population. That goes for America as well. That Lincoln fellow, on the pennies? That dude was one serious racist.
 
Meadmaker said:
The entire British Empire was racist. The whole concept was racist. Churchill wanted to keep the empire. Of course he was racist. As was Rudyard Kiplling, and Her Majesty the Empress of India, and.....everyone. There may have been a very small handful of non-racists born in 19th century Britain, but it was a very small number indeed, and that goes for most people born in the first half of the 20th century as well.


Apparently, there was an explosion of virtue during the post war period, and the people born then were virtuous, good, and wholesome people, while all the people before them were rotten to the core. Maybe there was a fortuitous mutation that spread through the population increasing the virtuous behavior.

We should tear down all the statues of anyone born before 1950, prior to the onset of virtue in the population. That goes for America as well. That Lincoln fellow, on the pennies? That dude was one serious racist.
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This.

Churchill also made quite a few anti-racist statements, something many of his contemporaries did not.
 
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Captain_Swoop said:
Men without badges pulling people into their unmarked civilian cars, not reading Miranda rights, not telloing what they are being arrested for, and telling friends if they follow the car, they will be shot?
Complete lawlessness.

https://twitter.com/DeepNotion2/status/1269171217946247168
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Yes, it is really difficult to pretend that the BLM protesters don't have a point when police departments throughout the US seem so happy to tear up the First Amendment
 
jimbob said:
Yes, it is really difficult to pretend that the BLM protesters don't have a point when police departments throughout the US seem so happy to tear up the First Amendment
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I don't think any reasonable person has ever made the argument that BLM activists don't have a point. At least I hope not.
 
Backing up the claim tear gas wasn't used outside the WH, Barr says "Pepper spray is not a chemical irritant. It's not chemical"
 
And do we know yet how the cops knew what was in the boxes being shipped:

HuffPo: Law Enforcement Seized Masks Meant To Protect Anti-Racist Protesters From COVID-19
Now he’s wondering if the government is watching him or watching the Black Lives Matter movement. “I just don’t understand it. It’s just really blowing my mind,” he said.

It’s not entirely clear what law enforcement entity seized the masks or why. But the Justice Department, led by Attorney General William Barr, has taken an aggressive posture against demonstrations and on Thursday expressed concern about “extremist agitators” who are “hijacking the protests to pursue their own separate and violent agenda.”
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Spying on the recipients? Or the senders?
 
trustbutverify said:
Stop lying. He couldn't possibly have said that.
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evidence

Brennan again pressed the attorney general on whether he thought it was appropriate for police to use tear gas and other munitions to disperse the crowd, causing Barr to try to play a semantics game.

“No, there were not chemical irritants,” he falsely proclaimed. “Pepper spray is not a chemical irritant. It’s not chemical.”
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Said it on Face the Nation this morning. I was watching.

WaPo says so too (behind paywall) and numerous other sources.

You could have just googled it instead of calling Captain Swoop a liar. You can apologize now.

Edited to add: I should have known that TBF was being sarcastic. I offer a most sincere and humble apology.
 
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shemp said:
I'm sure all those slaves are looking down now and, like George Floyd, are appreciative of the employment numbers. :rolleyes:
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I doubt they'll be impressed. After all, their rate of unemployment was 0.0%.
 
Garrison said:
Trying to buy his way into heaven more likely.
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I too doubt very much that his conscience was bothered. In that era, many white people did not even see black people as being human. They considered them to be animals, and therefore fit to be bought and sold for labor.

Unfortunately, some still feel that way today.
 
Darat said:
ETA: And yes I know Trump isn't president of the UK, not until Johnson signs the deal anyway...
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If they go any further to the right we'll trying to give ourselves back to England.

This is from a bump sticker I saw in the 1970's. :)

Ranb
 
Kestrel said:
Most of the population of the UK was rather explicitly racist back then. The same was true of the United States.
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Actually not the case, look into the issues the British public caused the USA military as they didn’t follow USA views about segregation. That is not to say that people weren’t racist at all but it was very different to the racism in the USA and was very much classed based. You would have found in mainland UK the Irish being the butt of most racism and of course Jewish people.
 
Meadmaker said:
The entire British Empire was racist. The whole concept was racist. Churchill wanted to keep the empire. Of course he was racist. As was Rudyard Kiplling, and Her Majesty the Empress of India, and.....everyone. There may have been a very small handful of non-racists born in 19th century Britain, but it was a very small number indeed, and that goes for most people born in the first half of the 20th century as well.


Apparently, there was an explosion of virtue during the post war period, and the people born then were virtuous, good, and wholesome people, while all the people before them were rotten to the core. Maybe there was a fortuitous mutation that spread through the population increasing the virtuous behavior.

We should tear down all the statues of anyone born before 1950, prior to the onset of virtue in the population. That goes for America as well. That Lincoln fellow, on the pennies? That dude was one serious racist.
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What a strange response.
 
Checkmite said:
"Pepper spray is not a chemical irritant." - Attorney-General Barr on CBS today.
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What I'd like to see next is a huge cadre of protest marchers, bearing that quotation on a sign, carrying pepper spray.

Of course that would probably be suicide, but maybe just maybe someone might notice the disconnect. Maybe on second thought they'd better just carry the signs and show as openly as possible that they're carrying nothing else.

Of course I'm probably way over-optimistic, as few seem to have noticed the disconnect between the cops' indiscriminate use of tear gas against crowds while it's common to declare that throwing it back is punishable as attack with a lethal weapon. Duh.
 
Meadmaker said:
That one I agree with.

At least somewhat seriously.

My opinion of all these people who are declared to be bad men because they were racists is that we cannot judge people based on standards of today. If they did great things, and they were racists, I'm not going to say that they were bad people if the entire culture in which they lived consisted of bad people. I can honor them for what they did, if they did something worthy of honor, even if not everything they did was worthy of honor.

I had to look up Edward Colston, and everything I know about the man is from one Wikipedia article, but it seems to me that he started a bunch of charities, and some of the charities he founded still existed at the time the statue was erected, and still exist today. That's worthy of praise. That remains true even if the source of the funds was a profession which today we find reprehensible. Reprehensible or not as we see it today, at the time it was a perfectly respectable profession, and had he stopped doing it, the same money for the same "goods" would have gone to people who would not have founded a hospital with it. He did good, even in the midst of a society that was rotten to the core, and even if he shared some of the rot.

As for Leopold of Belgium, I don't know too much about the man, but from my understaning, pretty much all he did was to grab a colony for Belgium, and to do so with incredible cruelty and bloodshed. In other words, I don't know of any great thing he did. The only thing he is remembered for was something that today we would find to be evil. So, very well, take down the statue.

So, if someone is honored for doing something evil, even if he did it very well, and the people of his day did not consider it evil, then take down the statues. If, on the other hand, someone did something that we consider great, but they lived in a time where evil was considered acceptable, and they participated in the evil, leave it up.

Churchill, Lincoln, Washington, apparently some fellow named Colston are not being honored for being racists or being slave owners or slave traders, even though they may have been those things. They are, and ought to be, honored for the good that they did.

In the case of Leopold II of Belgium, I'm not aware of anything worthy of honor. Maybe there was something and I'm just not aware of it.
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Good to know you are the objective arbiter of how we have to view the past. Is it an elected post?
 
cullennz said:
As an outsider I find it odd US people thinking police violence against blacks disappears when there is a dem president and reappears when there is a rep one.
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As an outsider you are evidently ignorant of the significant protests over Michael Brown and Freddie Gray while Obama was president. As an outsider you are evidently ignorant of the fact that BLM began while Obama was president. As an outsider, do all of us (including yourself) a flavor and learn more about US society if you're gonna insist on commenting on US society. Thanks.
 
Kestrel said:
Most of the population of the UK was rather explicitly racist back then. The same was true of the United States.
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That's correct.

Britain amongst them created a hierarchy with white Europeans at the top and Africans and Asians at the bottom. Racism became embedded into the nation's structures of power, culture, education and identity.
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In 1919, there were large-scale racist attacks on 'coloured' communities in London, Manchester, Liverpool, Hull, South Shields as well as parts of Scotland and Wales. There were other large-scale attacks in Liverpool in 1948, in Nottingham and Notting Hill in 1958 and at other times and places throughout the century since 1918.
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Google Doc spreadsheet of police violence incidents complete with links to videos.

Minneapolis City Council announces intent to disband police department
MINNEAPOLIS — A veto-proof majority of Minneapolis City Council members announced Sunday during a rally at Powderhorn that they are planning to disband the police department.

City Council members said they will invest in community-led safety initiatives instead of the police department.

"Our commitment is to end our city’s toxic relationship with the Minneapolis Police Department, to end policing as we know it, and to re-create systems of public safety that actually keep us safe," Minneapolis City Council President Lisa Bender said at Sunday’s community meeting.
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Captain_Swoop said:
Men without badges pulling people into their unmarked civilian cars, not reading Miranda rights, not telloing what they are being arrested for, and telling friends if they follow the car, they will be shot?
Complete lawlessness.

https://twitter.com/DeepNotion2/status/1269171217946247168
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Holy ****.

ETA: Ok seems like it was the actual police, and she was released later on, but this is ridiculous. Are there no rules to how these things are done? Sensible rules, I mean?
 
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Mitt Romney marches in the Black Lives Matters protest in Washington today.
 
Cabbage said:
As an outsider you are evidently ignorant of the significant protests over Michael Brown and Freddie Gray while Obama was president. As an outsider you are evidently ignorant of the fact that BLM began while Obama was president. As an outsider, do all of us (including yourself) a flavor and learn more about US society if you're gonna insist on commenting on US society. Thanks.
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THIS!
 
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