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Old 10th January 2021, 07:08 AM   #3201
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UK ‘rejected offer’ of visa-free tours by musicians in EU, despite blaming Brussels it appears the stumbling block was Priti Patel’s immigration crackdown which has introduced tough restrictions on tours by EU musicians.
Also pretty tough from a customs POV. Musicians from the EU used to have tariff free access for their kit. Now they’ll most likely need to pay a guarantee up front that they’ll re-export the kit, then claim it back.
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Old 10th January 2021, 07:19 AM   #3202
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I wonder, would UK businesses have a case suing all those involved in the Brexit referendum like Farage for lost moneys now that it's starting to turn out that the promises were all lies and their actions are now causing those companies a loss?
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Old 10th January 2021, 09:01 AM   #3203
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Government to let farmers use bee-killing pesticide banned in EU

A bee-killing pesticide so poisonous that it is banned by the EU may be used on sugar beet in England, the government has announced.
The decision prompted fury from nature-lovers and environmentalists, who accused ministers of bowing to pressure from farmers.
They said during the biodiversity crisis, when at least half the world’s insects have disappeared, the government should be doing everything it could to save bees, not allow them to be killed.

Environment secretary George Eustice has agreed to let a product containing the neonicotinoid thiamethoxam to treat sugar beet seed this year in an effort to protect the crop from a virus.


https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-b1784693.html
The 'race to the bottom' has begun; neonics are banned in most places, except the US and now the UK.

Weren't the Brexiteers busily claiming that the post-EU UK could improve environmental laws? Where are they now?
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Old 10th January 2021, 09:12 AM   #3204
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The 'race to the bottom' has begun; neonics are banned in most places, except the US and now the UK.

Weren't the Brexiteers busily claiming that the post-EU UK could improve environmental laws? Where are they now?
Nonsense! It’s just sensible good old British Bulldog common sense, we don’t eat bees so what harm does it do!

Also an entirely unsurprising “let them eat cake”

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-b1783331.html

Quote:
...snip...

A leading Tory credited with inspiring Brexit has urged Boris Johnson to cull a raft of EU consumer and worker protections, now the UK has the freedom to act.

...snip...

* the Temporary Workers’ Directive – which guarantees agency staff receive equal pay and conditions with employees in the same business.

* the General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR) – that gives individuals control over their personal data and limits its transfer to other countries.

* the ban on products made from genetically modified (GM) crops – potentially allowing US food derived that way into the UK, as part of a future trade deal.

* the REACH Directive – to outlaw chemicals linked to health problems including cancer, thyroid disease, hormone disruption and slow development.

* the End of Life Vehicles Directive – to achieve environmentally-friendly dismantling and recycling, with targets for the reuse of vehicles and their components.

* the Alternative Investment Fund Managers Directive (AIFMD) – introduced to regulate hedge funds and private equity following the 2008 financial crash.

* the ‘Droit de suite’ rules – that pay artists a fee on the resale of their works of art, instead of the American ‘first-sale doctrine’ that removes rights from subsequent sales.

* “chunks of” the Markets in Financial Instruments Directive (MiFID II) – the legal framework to harmonise regulation of securities markets and trading venues.



...snip....
His article itself if you want the full details: https://www.conservativehome.com/the...this-mess.html


Oh and one other little thing that I will watch eagerly to see how it plays out - apparently there isn’t a way for EU au pairs to come to the UK now... expect that one to be “sorted out” pretty quickly.
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Old 10th January 2021, 09:13 AM   #3205
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Why does the phrase “death by a thousand cuts” keep passing through my mind?
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Old 11th January 2021, 05:20 AM   #3206
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https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-b1784312.html

“ UK fishermen halting exports to EU as ‘catastrophe’ Brexit bureaucracy renders business unviable”
British fish for British people.
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Old 11th January 2021, 06:33 AM   #3207
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There are big opportunities for U.K. business in import substitution. Let’s cut the food miles by growing more at home. We need to increase the amount of U.K. value added in manufactures by making more components here, simplifying supply chains and creating more jobs.
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Old 11th January 2021, 06:38 AM   #3208
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Vegetable plots in your backyard, your children manufacturing stuff at home during lockdown, back to the Blitz!
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Old 11th January 2021, 06:39 AM   #3209
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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop View Post
John Redwood tweets

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There are big opportunities for U.K. business in import substitution. Let’s cut the food miles by growing more at home. We need to increase the amount of U.K. value added in manufactures by making more components here, simplifying supply chains and creating more jobs.
I wonder why we haven't done that before now.

Could it be that it couldn't be done, or that it couldn't be done cost effectively ?

Another Brexit "benefit", higher consumer prices.
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Old 11th January 2021, 06:44 AM   #3210
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We did it during a word war - our parents/grandparents 'dug for victory'. Our manufacturing soared, so I can't see a reason why we can't do this.
Let's relaunch I'm backing Britain

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I'm growing my own lemons. We should be sticking more British produce in our supermarkets, and if affordable use our butchers, farm shops etc.

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We could grow and manufacture the foods items that we can, the obtain others from elsewhere.
Not the amount that we have done from 1970 onwards. People will HAVE to work or be hungry

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Yes. BRITISH PRODUCE IS THE BEST WE CAN BUY. BRITISH CHEESE IS BETTER THAN FRENCH BUY BRITISH AND SAVE BRITISH JOBS. PLS RT
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Old 11th January 2021, 07:08 AM   #3211
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I wonder why we haven't done that before now.
All my attempts to grow bananas, oranges and peaches to substitute imports have so far failed. But I'm sure now we are out of the EU and not constrained by EU rules I will have 400 days a year of sun.
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Old 11th January 2021, 07:16 AM   #3212
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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop View Post
John Redwood tweets

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There are big opportunities for U.K. business in import substitution. Let’s cut the food miles by growing more at home. We need to increase the amount of U.K. value added in manufactures by making more components here, simplifying supply chains and creating more jobs.
Wow. Bloody hell, what a fantastic idea, businesses should operate as businesses, if we hadn't had the keen intellect of Redwood to point this out no one in business would ever have thought of this.
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Old 11th January 2021, 07:20 AM   #3213
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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop View Post
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We did it during a word war - our parents/grandparents 'dug for victory'. Our manufacturing soared, so I can't see a reason why we can't do this.
Let's relaunch I'm backing Britain
Of course there was food rationing until the mid-50's and despite all the efforts of "dig for victory" the Atlantic convoys were still important for supplying the UK with food. Then again Brexit has always been fuelled by a constant stream of lies so why should it be any different this time around.


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I'm growing my own lemons. We should be sticking more British produce in our supermarkets, and if affordable use our butchers, farm shops etc.
Good for you.

Of course not everyone has the resources to grow their own lemons and not all year around.

It's not affordable for many to use butchers and farm shops which is why supermarkets and discount retailers exist. It's also pretty difficult to get to a farm shop if you live in and inner city sink estate.

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We could grow and manufacture the foods items that we can, the obtain others from elsewhere.
Not the amount that we have done from 1970 onwards. People will HAVE to work or be hungry
Ah yes, the golden days of the 1970s where British was a byword for quality and affordability

Remind me again how the far Eastern manufacturers managed to thrive ?

I wonder if she will change her tune if she is forced to work for under-subsistence wages.


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Absolutely it's a no brainer hurrah for common sense!
I guess having no brain does assist significantly in agreeing with John Redwood.

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Yes. BRITISH PRODUCE IS THE BEST WE CAN BUY. BRITISH CHEESE IS BETTER THAN FRENCH BUY BRITISH AND SAVE BRITISH JOBS. PLS RT
In some cases it is, it's often also very expensive.
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Old 11th January 2021, 07:21 AM   #3214
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All my attempts to grow bananas, oranges and peaches to substitute imports have so far failed. But I'm sure now we are out of the EU and not constrained by EU rules I will have 400 days a year of sun.
tbh if the likes of John Redwood get their way they climate change would spiral out of control and we'll either be able to grow bananas here or the Atlantic conveyor will change course and we'll become an arctic wasteland.
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Old 11th January 2021, 09:50 AM   #3215
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He hassupporters
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We did it during a word war - our parents/grandparents 'dug for victory'. Our manufacturing soared, so I can't see a reason why we can't do this.
Let's relaunch I'm backing Britain

Bernadette Packer
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I'm growing my own lemons. We should be sticking more British produce in our supermarkets, and if affordable use our butchers, farm shops etc.

Martha Ella
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We could grow and manufacture the foods items that we can, the obtain others from elsewhere.
Not the amount that we have done from 1970 onwards. People will HAVE to work or be hungry

Margot Parker
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Absolutely it's a no brainer hurrah for common sense!

justthetruthpls
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Yes. BRITISH PRODUCE IS THE BEST WE CAN BUY. BRITISH CHEESE IS BETTER THAN FRENCH BUY BRITISH AND SAVE BRITISH JOBS. PLS RT


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Old 11th January 2021, 10:17 AM   #3216
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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop View Post
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I'm growing my own lemons. We should be sticking more British produce in our supermarkets, and if affordable use our butchers, farm shops etc.
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Whoopee. We'll be growing our own parsley soon, too. That'll show the EU!

It takes about 2 acres to keep a family of 4 in veg and ground fruits alone for a year. The typical household patch of a garden makes sod all difference to food requirements. It can be rewarding to grow stuff, but it's little more than a hobby.

******* morons.
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Old 11th January 2021, 10:28 AM   #3217
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Farage has recruited an ex-Tory MSP to lead his new party in Scotland.

https://news.stv.tv/politics/msp-to-...n-scotland?top

Apparently unions of countries are now a good thing.
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Old 11th January 2021, 11:36 AM   #3218
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"If you caught a fish, then whoever you sold it to, they wouldn't have to pay for it, and the profits would go to the fish."
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Farage has recruited an ex-Tory MSP to lead his new party in Scotland.

https://news.stv.tv/politics/msp-to-...n-scotland?top

Apparently unions of countries are now a good thing.
So not for Scottxit?
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Vegetable plots in your backyard, your children manufacturing stuff at home during lockdown, back to the Blitz!
I think I got a 3D printer at the right time, I can become a god among men printing plastic widgets for my neighbours and lord it over them by eating twice a week!
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All my attempts to grow bananas, oranges and peaches to substitute imports have so far failed. But I'm sure now we are out of the EU and not constrained by EU rules I will have 400 days a year of sun.
I have an eight month old lime tree on my windowsill that I'm tending obsessively in anticipation of cocktails to come. I'm not convinced it's a suitable basis for a commercial venture though.
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Originally Posted by Archie Gemmill Goal View Post
All my attempts to grow bananas, oranges and peaches to substitute imports have so far failed. But I'm sure now we are out of the EU and not constrained by EU rules I will have 400 days a year of sun.
We can grow bananas and coffee beans in Ireland....
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Dutch officials seize ham sandwiches from British drivers

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Does this mean any gammons attempting to enter Europe are going to be impounded?
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Why would they leave the UK in the first place? Now that the EU is gone they live in the land of milk and honey with unlimited resources that needs not trade with anyone eve5 right?
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Why would they leave the UK in the first place? Now that the EU is gone they live in the land of milk and honey with unlimited resources that needs not trade with anyone eve5 right?
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Why would they leave the UK in the first place? Now that the EU is gone they live in the land of milk and honey with unlimited resources that needs not trade with anyone eve5 right?
I left the UK 23 years ago but as soon as Covid restrictions are lifted I'm heading right back. Can't wait to feel that sovereignty.
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I left the UK 23 years ago but as soon as Covid restrictions are lifted I'm heading right back. Can't wait to feel that sovereignty.
You can proudly show off your new Blue passport as you triumphantly return home. You can pick it up from the French manufacturer 'en route' as we say in England. Of course after so long away you will have to familiarise yourself with the mother tongue vis-à-vis the foreign phrases other lesser languages import.

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Noooooooooooooooooooo !!!!!!!!!!!!!! NOT PERCY PIG



https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-55583244
What about Colin the Caterpillar..?
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*brexiteer mode on*
The food parcels WERE so bad because of EU rules forbidding a better package
The food parcels ARE so bad because of EU rules preventing the needed stuff entering.
*brexiteer mode off*

It's really easy
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This is a Brexit related comment in the twitter thread

"That’s because there’s to many mouths to feed with all the invaders coming over in dingys theres not enough to go round!"
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This is a Brexit related comment in the twitter thread

"That’s because there’s to many mouths to feed with all the invaders coming over in dingys theres not enough to go round!"
Coming over in dingy whats though? At this time of year everything will be a bit drab.
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This is a Brexit related comment in the twitter thread

"That’s because there’s to many mouths to feed with all the invaders coming over in dingys theres not enough to go round!"
"We just came for the English food".
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Just had a notification from UPS that there is a parcel for me. Because it is from the UK unless I have a Finnish ID I will have to pay €17.85 per diem after three days. This never happened before. They are calling it 'Customs Clearance'.

I hope they deliver to my door as my car is underneath a whole pile of snow and the oil light is flashing.

I don't really understand why a non-Finn would have to pay customs clearance from the UK. That doesn't quite make sense.
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Old 13th January 2021, 05:36 AM   #3235
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Originally Posted by Vixen View Post
Just had a notification from UPS that there is a parcel for me. Because it is from the UK unless I have a Finnish ID I will have to pay €17.85 per diem after three days. This never happened before. They are calling it 'Customs Clearance'.

I hope they deliver to my door as my car is underneath a whole pile of snow and the oil light is flashing.

I don't really understand why a non-Finn would have to pay customs clearance from the UK. That doesn't quite make sense.
It is down to where the goods are going from and to not the nationality of the recipient.
Although there is no customs duty between the UK and the EU there may be import taxes (VAT) there will also need to be a customs declaration. I suspect companies like UPS will offer to do the customs declaration for sellers giving them the choice to pay UPS for completing the declaration or passing on UPS's cost to the customer.

As all of this is new for trade between the UK and EU I expect rampant profiteering until people get used to the charges and we get proper competition. I suspect the Finnish ID is part of that profiteering.
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Fresh seafood exports from Scotland to EU halted until 18 January
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Ha that will finally bring the EU to its knees!
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Originally Posted by Mojo View Post
World beating export delays!

What a win for the fishing industry. The fish they can catch they don't have a local market and can't export. The fish they can sell locally they can no longer catch because they can't do quota exchanges and no longer have access to EU waters or waters off countries like Norway that have deals with the EU.


This super-trawler has been sitting in port since Dec because it has no rights to catch fish anywhere.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-humber-55621259

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The 81m (266ft) vessel, which has been moored in Hull since December, catches up to 2.3m fish in each week-long trip, in waters off the coasts of Norway, Greenland and the Faroe Islands.

Its owners, UK Fisheries, said Kirkella supplied between 8-12% of all fish sold in UK fish and chip shops
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Originally Posted by lomiller View Post
World beating export delays!

What a win for the fishing industry. The fish they can catch they don't have a local market and can't export. The fish they can sell locally they can no longer catch because they can't do quota exchanges and no longer have access to EU waters or waters off countries like Norway that have deals with the EU.


This super-trawler has been sitting in port since Dec because it has no rights to catch fish anywhere.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-humber-55621259
"Downing Street has said Boris Johnson maintains confidence in the fisheries minister after she admitted not reading the post-Brexit trade deal with Brussels when it was agreed because she was busy organising a nativity trail."

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"Downing Street has said Boris Johnson maintains confidence in the fisheries minister after she admitted not reading the post-Brexit trade deal with Brussels when it was agreed because she was busy organising a nativity trail."

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Ye gods, the EU really dropped the ball there. They could have put in a clause that a part of the agreement is that the UK starts using the Euro and it would have been signed.
Good thing the UK elected such competent leaders to return them to Imperial Glory.
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