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That was Eric Trump's claim last month, that the virus will magically disappear after the election, since it's a hoax orchestrated by the Democrats to make his father look bad. |
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I agree with your assessment, but I have to admit I wish reporters didn't ask about Trump at all. I just think it would have been so cool if they had completely ignored him. Stick to questions about the work of the coronavirus task force. If they really, really, really, felt like asking about Trump, ask, "Mr. Vice President, does the task force have any recommendations about holding large public gatherings, such as indoor sporting events, theater performances, or other events that are held indoors with auditorium style seating?"
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I think the point was... Force pence to give an answer that contradicts Trump's actions. A question about "does the corona virus task force recommend large gatherings" means he will have to say something potentially embarrassing. Bringing trump into it allowed pence to weasel out of the question
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That's a big part of it.
Aside from that, though, I would love to see questions about coronavirus, instead of Trump. Will schools be able to open in the Fall? What will it take to make that happen? How many tests per day? How many do we have? What's the plan to close the gap between need and have? And if Pence can't give an answer to those questions, that's a lot more damning than offering an opinion about a handful of rallies with a couple of thousand people. |
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On Wednesday trump renewed claims the Covid-19 epidemic is ending.
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Okay, so trump wants the virus to 'fade away' -- I guess everyone does, don't we? -- but yesterday the U.S. reported the highest number of new cases ever. Has trump walked back his statements of three days ago or at least modified them? The virus is 'dying out,' that it is 'fading away?' No he has not. As many people have said, compared to trump's getting reelected, the health and safety of American citizens are a distant second. It really seems that way, that trump -- our president! -- doesn't care whether the average American lives or dies. Last year I would have closed this message by writing, "Sad!" but this has become too much. The lack of leadership from the top, the constant misinformation, he's literally killing people. People are getting sick in record numbers and trump is pretty much done with the Covid-19 outbreak. As newscasters have reported, for the most part it no longer has his attention. Unbelievable. ![]() |
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Even though the number of new cases is at a record high, deaths are currently on a downward curve so President Trump and Vice President Pence can get away with saying that Coronavirus is on the way out.
Deaths are a lagging indicator so they may not be able to get away with it much longer. Then again, more testing may mean a lower proportion of fatalities as at the start you had to be very ill just to get a test. I fear however that the US may not even be halfway through the first wave of infection with only mid-single digits percent infected to date ![]() |
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Don't worry. Virus will be dying, fading away and it's embers stomped out all way into November.
After January it will suddenly be most murderous calamity known to human and only Biden will be to blame. Okay, Obama too. |
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Vice President Pence postponed planned campaign events in Arizona and Florida next week “out of an abundance of caution” amid spikes in coronavirus cases in those states, a Trump-Pence reelection campaign official said Saturday.
Meanwhile, the grim reality of the virus continued to batter states facing rising infections, with Florida, Georgia, South Carolina and Nevada hitting new highs in daily cases reported, while Arizona set a record on current hospitalizations. More than 42,000 new cases have been reported nationally as of late Saturday afternoon, the second day in a row that new cases have risen above 40,000. https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...ve-updates-us/ |
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This past Wednesday New York, New Jersey and Connecticut announced they would be requiring visitors or local residents returning from Alabama, Arizona, Arkansas, Florida, North Carolina, South Carolina, Texas and Utah to self-quarantine for 14-days.
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Haven't you all heard? Trump says the Coronavirus is a phony issue.
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More bad news. This is from CNN.
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Yet here we are at the end of June and new cases in many states, and in the U.S. as a whole, are at 'highest ever' levels. Google/Wiki tracker for Florida |
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Florida is really having a bad time. New cases are rising sharply, having nearly doubled in two days. Positive testing rates have almost tripled since early June, rising from under 5% to 13%. Incredibly, Florida governor DeSantis continues to downplay the outbreak. DeSantis even seems to be trying to shift some of the 'blame' to the news media. Below is a quote from a news story yesterday from a local newspaper, the Tampa Bay Times.
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By the way, as for states reclosing, I'm not sure there are any guidelines. Among others, Dr. Anthony Fauci has said, he doesn't see that happening. Below is a quote from Fauci's Congressional testimony last week.
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You can't make this stuff up. And I'm saying it!
![]() Think trump cares whether his supporters live or die as long as they survive long enough to vote for him? Before the trump rally at Bank of Oklahoma arena in Tulsa, trump campaign workers removed social distancing stickers that arena staff had put on every-other-seat. From a CNN report
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The "six to 24 times greater" number seems to me to be actually incredibly good news. It would mean that at least 5 out of 6 infected people did not even know they were infected, ever.
As for the huge numbers in Florida et. al, that's pretty bad news, but there might be a silver lining there, too. If they aren't accompanied by huge numbers of hospitalizations and deaths, then there would be some truth to the belief that increased testing is responsible for the high numbers. From what I have seen, hospitalizations are in fact way up, but we aren't seeing the kind of horror stories that we saw in New York when then were reporting comparable case loads. We aren't seeing stories about refrigerator trucks being used as makeshift morgues because the hospital morgues were overflowing. It's still bad, but maybe not quite as bad as it seems. ETA: My biggest fear is that there are so many new cases in Florida, circulating among a non-locked down population, that we are about to see a huge, huge, increase. Stay tuned. |
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That seems likely, but I'm trying to be optimistic. I hope it doesn't get as bad as New York did. I'm hoping that part of the huge numbers are because we know about a lot more asymptomatic cases.
My fear is that the asymptomatic cases are spreading like wildfire, and we'll see 20,000 new cases a day in Florida, and the number of symptomatic cases will follow the trend. |
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It is also likely that deaths after hospitalizations will drop a fair amount because doctors now have a couple more tools in their toolbox than they did back in march.
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The discourse on, well, every social issue in the States these days has become so politicized and polarized that I don't think Trump dares take Covid-19 seriously, out of fear of alienating his base. I don't know if it is that he doesn't care per se, but that he's worked so hard on his strongman image and his the-virus-isn't-dangerous shtick that he doesn't dare depart from it. After all, his a significant part of his supporters are the type who sees it as a grave violation of their rights to... something if you ask them to socially distance or put on a mask.
Or... what do I know. Trump works in mysterious days, xD chess, etc. |
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