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If you need other international examples: Denmark reopened schools after the lockdown had managed to hammer down the contagion, but at a local flare up recently, which started with two minkfarms and a nursing home, the infection immediately spread to three schools:
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The Bagterp School, the Lundergård School as well as the Højene School in Hjørring all had cases of corona in recent weeks. The three schools now report that they have had no new cases. No more active cases at schools in Hjørring: - It's going really well I haven't heard about anybody, teachers or students, from the three schools getting seriously ill. I assume that the cases were discovered because they ramped up testing when the local flare up started. In Sweden, where hardly anybody was tested for the first couple of months unless they were hospitalized, there weren't many reports about outbreaks at schools - unless people got ill and died. |
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‘STOP GETTING TESTED’: GOP lawmaker gives Ohio residents dangerous COVID-19 advice
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Given that 3 of the top 10 areas with highest infection rates are in Wales, where Health is a devolved matter...
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It's very early days but sadly it looks like the US death rate is starting to climb again
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...and two of those were among the earliest areas to be hit before the UK government even tried to put into place any kind of testing, tracking or lockdown.
Then again, even though the infection rates were very high, the death rates were proportionally lower so perhaps the devolved Welsh NHS did a good job. |
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/dann "Stupidity renders itself invisible by assuming very large proportions. Completely unreasonable claims are irrefutable. Ni-en-leh pointed out that a philosopher might get into trouble by claiming that two times two makes five, but he does not risk much by claiming that two times two makes shoe polish." B. Brecht "The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is required for their real happiness. The demand to give up the illusion about its condition is the demand to give up a condition which needs illusions." K. Marx |
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You know he's not doing that kind of arithmetic. He's claiming any outcome short of death is "totally harmless." Hospitalization, ventilators, long-term heart, lung and brain damage don't matter in his world. And even "mild" cases are proving to have long-term consequences. https://journaltimes.com/lifestyles/...cdf75cb3c.html |
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"Wearing a mask during a pandemic is an IQ test, and you are failing!"
'InRangeTV one of my' favourite shooting channel hits it on the head. Karl departs from the usual content to explain why people should be wearing masks. He starts it as though it is going to be a general 'personal protection' video dealing with first aid kits and 'concealed carry' and pivots it on to the idiots that have been attacking him in the comments of earlier videos where he has worn a mask. PPE in the year 2020
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Will this change the way people look at the pandemic? Or will it only affect the people who are denied care and their relatives who have to watch them die?
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/dann "Stupidity renders itself invisible by assuming very large proportions. Completely unreasonable claims are irrefutable. Ni-en-leh pointed out that a philosopher might get into trouble by claiming that two times two makes five, but he does not risk much by claiming that two times two makes shoe polish." B. Brecht "The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is required for their real happiness. The demand to give up the illusion about its condition is the demand to give up a condition which needs illusions." K. Marx |
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Is it just me who thought this?
That the Coronavirus for even a moderately competent administration and President would have easily locked up reelection in a landslide? Crises provide opportunities to unite a country and at least appear as a leader. But this is where Trump is deficient. He only knows how to be divisive. |
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Trump has never been a leader in his life. He's only ever been a boss, and a mediocre one at that. There was a comic posted in one of the other threads. Panel 1: Leader A group of people pulling a cart. The leader is in the front, directing them as he helps them pull. Panel 2: Boss A group of people pulling a cart. The boss is sitting on the cart, giving orders. Panel 3: Trump A group of people pulling a cart. Trump is behind the cart, pulling in the opposite direction. |
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Michael Cohen ordered back to jail after photographed eating at restaurant. He had successfully argued for his sentence to be changed to home detention to avoid Covid in jail, but got it yanked for violating the conditions. Womp womp.
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True. But in this case, it would have meant listening to experts and imploring the people to work together. Showing compassion even if he had none. Trump didn't just mangle this from a governing perspective, he botched it from a political perspective.
What it took was letting the scientists take the lead. Instead as always Trump thinks he is smarter than the real experts. The problem for Trump now is he can't change this narrative. People are dying and he's directly responsible. |
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I can most certainly say the the phony pulled-from-his-ass 99 percent is complete ******** as we are only just discovering disturbing new health problems resulting from only mild cases of this virus.
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You mean how deeply unpopular leaders like Scott Morrison (Australia) and Justin Trudeau have gone from well negative to overwhelmingly positive public perception?
______________________________ Meanwhile, after having enabled the president and denied the crisis, disgusting ***** like McConnell are going to avoid the RNC in fear of infection. https://www.huffpost.com/entry/mitch...b67a80bc04aedd They should be forced to attend and greet every attendee at the door. |
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Rats leaving a sinking ship? Let's hope.
I thought that in October of 2016, though. Eleven incumbent Republican senators, I can't remember which ones, withdrew their support from him publicly. I thought he could not possibly win with so many in his own party willing to denounce him like that. So, I lost a lot of confidence about my prognostication abilities. Take nothing for granted, Joe. Especially Wisconsin. |
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It's not a matter of any kind of arithmetic.
His pathologic personality disorder leaves him in a fantasy world until the bubble bursts then he moves on to the next fantasy. Bankruptcy becomes a great business deal. No US banks willing to loan the Trumps any more money becomes a great and profitable relationship with the Russian oligarchs who want to invest in Trump golf resorts. The fact there's a little money laundering on the side is just the art of the deal. You can trace that path throughout Trump's entire life. The piper is coming for his due. Are we passing peak Trump? Don't know but Trump is passing peak Trump. He's in the public eye and I'm not talking about People Magazine or whoever "Baron", Trump's faux publicist was calling with Trump's sexual conquests. Trump's base or not, there are GOP supporters who for the first time are not going to vote for Trump. There are a few states where Trump might pull off some EC points. Maybe there are some diehard Republicans willing to rig the election by suppressing votes. Maybe there are a few blacks who will stay home again, disillusioned with the whole political system. But I'm not buying in to all the naysayers who think we're going to see a repeat of 2016. We are 4 months from the election. Vaccine or no vaccine, it will not come soon enough. All of Trump's fair weather friends are not going to ride along on the fantasy unicorn when they see the hospitals spilling over their capacity. Trump promised them 99% of people would be fine. He imagined in his fantasy the economy simply going back to business as usual. It was a ******* fantasy. That just can't be sustained. |
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He's a one trick pony so to speak. He's trying his one trick and it won't work here.
I'm glad he hasn't failed by using a nuke because he has no concept of diplomacy. But I'm terribly sad over the thousands of deaths and especially the needless healthcare worker deaths because we have an incompetent POTUS during a national crisis. Trump's new marketing strategy is that he's a wartime POTUS and this is a China virus. |
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Saw a great mask yesterday. It said VOTE! on a rainbow background.
I'll ask the lady if it's commercially available. She said her sister sent it. |
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I would be tempted to get a Vote mask, but I would go with a red/white/blue flag or patriotic theme, myself.
It makes a wonderful statement. It's a case where, normally, some sort of "vote" button is just a statement of patriotism, saying that voting is a good, all-American thing to do. In this case, though, putting it on a mask would be a political statement all by itself, yet those who disagree with you might feel frustrated that they couldn't exactly call you on it. |
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How do you spell "Schadenfreude"? M-I-S-S-I-S-S-I-P-P-I.
More than two dozen Mississippi lawmakers have tested positive for coronavirus after refusing to wear masks.
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It's unbelievable that these Mississippi lawmakers not only couldn't effectively combat the spread of Covid-19 in their state, they couldn't even protect themselves.
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The flag motif paled for me somewhat through overuse, though I wanted to find a patch to embroider on my jeans after 9/11.
Every once in a while I pretend I am just coming back to Earth after having been away for several years, and I ask myself, what would surprise me? Early 2000s it was like - what, are we in a war? So many flags! (Often made in China). Anyway I'd like a "vote" mask no matter the color scheme. That's patriotic enough for me. |
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To do a bit of a cross-over from the science COVID-thread...
I think that we can safely be pretty sure about why assertions like that are being pushed as hard as they are and by who. Employer/Employee power dynamics - which matter quite a lot to, for example, the GOP's main donors, who tend to be a lot of fairly rich and powerful people. To borrow from a couple opinion pieces...
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The Colorado Sun runs a comic called "What'd I Miss?", about a woman who wakes up from a 30 year coma and learns about her new world with the help of her African-American neighbor. |
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On Friday Texas Gov. Greg Abbott warned Texans that if people continue to ignore his statewide mandate that makes wearing a face mask mandatory, the next step could be locking the state down again. NBC News reported, "His plea to Texans comes as nearly 80 Texas counties have opted out of the order , while others are refusing to enforce it." New cases, hospitalizations and deaths are at all-time highs in the Lone Star State.
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