[Continuation] Covid-19 and Politics pt 2 - Page 7

The Don · 30th July 2020, 02:55 AM

The UK government are continuing their stellar job of making up policy on the fly. Nick Hancock has suggested that the 14 day quarantine period for international arrivals may be cut (presumably because it's unpopular) at the same time as the government increases the period of self-isolation for those with symptoms from 7 days to 10 days (until that proves unpopular and it's reduced again).

Darat · 30th July 2020, 02:57 AM

Originally Posted by The Don

The UK government are continuing their stellar job of making up policy on the fly. Nick Hancock has suggested that the 14 day quarantine period for international arrivals may be cut (presumably because it's unpopular) at the same time as the government increases the period of self-isolation for those with symptoms from 7 days to 10 days (until that proves unpopular and it's reduced again).

Scurrilous accusation that is totally untrue.

Policy is not made up on the fly but after a careful examination of all relevant data, i.e. the headlines and how Johnson is polling

Squeegee Beckenheim · 30th July 2020, 03:03 AM

I think this is the most shocking report to come out yet: A study has found that Dominic Cummings' trip to Durham undermined lockdown, and made people less trusting of politicians

I'm shocked. Are you shocked? I am. Shocked!

Darat · 30th July 2020, 03:22 AM

Originally Posted by Squeegee Beckenheim

I think this is the most shocking report to come out yet: A study has found that Dominic Cummings' trip to Durham undermined lockdown, and made people less trusting of politicians

I'm shocked. Are you shocked? I am. Shocked!

I've probably already mentioned it in this thread - but this was the first time I've ever been able to say I've seen such a thing happen. Usually people claim something like Ed Milliband "two kitchens" faux pa and we are told this had an impact on people but I've never seen that having any real effect on people's attitudes at the time but Cummings really did and it was across the board regardless of political leaning.

The Don · 30th July 2020, 05:48 AM

Boris Johnson is warning the country that we're not out of the woods yet:

Quote:

UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson has said it's "absolutely vital as a country we don’t delude ourselves that somehow we’re out of the woods or this is all over, because it isn’t all over".

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/worl...ost_type=share

Gosh, I wonder how people could have come to such an errant conclusion ?

Quote:

Coronavirus restrictions will ease further in England under plans for a "significant return to normality" by Christmas, Boris Johnson has announced.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53441912

Samson · 30th July 2020, 03:19 PM

Nicola Sturgeon praised for covid response

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/a...ectid=12352492

I expect Rolfe may expand on this.

Rolfe · 30th July 2020, 03:39 PM

Hmm. She's done OK since May. She's doing OK now. In March she killed four thousand people.

Captain_Swoop · 31st July 2020, 02:05 AM

So people in Manchester can share a room with lots of others and get pissed if it's a pub but they can't do that in their own home, why? Because money, if you think this government give a **** about your health you're a ******* barmcake!

That a government minister announces informally late night on Twitter that there are new laws with criminal sanctions with immediate effect is exactly the opposite of what should be happening in a well-functioning parliamentary democracy.

Boris boasting of 'massive success' over coronavirus deaths within hours of the Office for National Statistics revealing England was found to have the worst excess death total in Europe.
And still people defend him with the 'no comparison compare because different methods' ********.

The Don · 31st July 2020, 02:06 AM

I fear that this latest announcement will result in a Coronavirus spike in Wales

Quote:

Up to 30 people can meet outdoors and children under 11 will not have to social distance in Wales from Monday.

Swimming pools, gyms, leisure centres and indoor play areas, including soft play, can reopen from 10 August.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-53595372

I suppose that as long as the Welsh government are prepared to reverse these decisions at the first sign of a significant rise in cases, then it's OK news.

The Don · 31st July 2020, 02:08 AM

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop

That a government minister announces informally late night on Twitter that there are new laws with criminal sanctions with immediate effect is exactly the opposite of what should be happening in a well-functioning parliamentary democracy.

Boris boasting of 'massive success' over coronavirus deaths within hours of the Office for National Statistics revealing England was found to have the worst excess death total in Europe.
And still people defend him with the 'no comparison compare because different methods' ********.

Boris Johnson's boast is really quite cynical. We had deaths spiralling out of control but instead of trying to learn from the mistakes that got us to that sorry position, he's chosen to crow about how the numbers are now merely bad.

Darat · 31st July 2020, 04:16 AM

I was thinking about the contrast with the "financial crisis" of 2008 and today and one thing I think has been remarkably different is that we haven't had a figure step up to the global stage. During the 2008 crisis Brown and to a lesser extent Darling did help shape the global response, brokered deals amongst the G20 such as the 1 trillion dollar bail out.

It's not that we've not seen impressive leaders in their own countries but this pandemic seems to have lacked someone who has managed to shape the worldwide response, someone to get the world's major leaders together (if only by Zoom!

).

Squeegee Beckenheim · 31st July 2020, 05:44 AM

God, you know the situation is bad when you're praising Gordon Brown in comparison.

The Don · 31st July 2020, 08:13 AM

Nicola Sturgeon acting decisively to try to limit infections from England. Doubtless she'll be criticised for her "racism".

Quote:

Scotland's First Minister Nicola Sturgeon is giving more details on her government's advice against non-essential travel to parts of northern England.

People should only travel to areas covered by the UK government's new restrictions - Greater Manchester, east Lancashire and parts of West Yorkshire - if absolutely necessary, she says at an impromptu press conference.

"If you're returning to Scotland from these parts of the north of England we're asking you to minimise your contact with people outside of your own household for 14 days after your return.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/worl...ost_type=share

Captain_Swoop · 31st July 2020, 08:13 AM

Brown was a good Chancellor, He wasn't such a good PM and had the bad luck to be PM at the time of the global crash.

Rolfe · 31st July 2020, 10:46 AM

Originally Posted by The Don

Nicola Sturgeon acting decisively to try to limit infections from England. Doubtless she'll be criticised for her "racism".

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/worl...ost_type=share

I listened to it live and she was practically doing contortions to head off that accusation. I have a very close friend who lives in Calderdale. I always spend Christmas with her and her family. I was thinking of phoning and remarking that I'd just been banned from visiting her! (She's Scottish, as it happens. So racist, this.)

P.J. Denyer · 31st July 2020, 11:01 AM

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop

Brown was a good Chancellor, He wasn't such a good PM and had the bad luck to be PM at the time of the global crash.

According to Conservatives he was the most powerful PM ever since apparently he caused the worldwide crash.

Captain_Swoop · 31st July 2020, 01:00 PM

New local lockdown rules.
You can drink cider with a goth in a graveyard but only on Cher's birthday.
Space hoppers will now be the only transport.
Wotsits are illegal.
You can dress a Badger up as a Viking on Tuesdays.
You MUST play the piano with your feet.

ZeeGerman · 31st July 2020, 01:12 PM

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop

New local lockdown rules.
You can drink cider with a goth in a graveyard but only on Cher's birthday.
Space hoppers will now be the only transport.
Wotsits are illegal.
You can dress a Badger up as a Viking on Tuesdays.
You MUST play the piano with your feet.

I had to google Wotsits. Banning them sounds reasonable

P.J. Denyer · 31st July 2020, 01:27 PM

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop

New local lockdown rules.
You can drink cider with a goth in a graveyard but only on Cher's birthday.
Space hoppers will now be the only transport.
Wotsits are illegal.
You can dress a Badger up as a Viking on Tuesdays.
You MUST play the piano with your feet.

Dammit, I'd already booked the badger for Thursday.

Darat · 31st July 2020, 01:37 PM

Originally Posted by P.J. Denyer

Dammit, I'd already booked the badger for Thursday.

I'm painting a stripe down the back of mine so I can claim it is skunk, I doubt whether anybody will be bothered enough to get their eyes tested to double check.

Captain_Swoop · 31st July 2020, 06:52 PM

One or more of those might not be true!!

timhau · 1st August 2020, 01:29 AM

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop

One or more of those might not be true!!

You got infected by Trump tweets?

zooterkin · 1st August 2020, 06:09 AM

Originally Posted by Darat

I'm painting a stripe down the back of mine so I can claim it is skunk, I doubt whether anybody will be bothered enough to get their eyes tested to double check.

It’s a long way to Barnard’s Castle from here.

Rolfe · 1st August 2020, 06:28 AM

I actually had an eye test on Thursday. I drove to Roslin for it, about 12 miles away. I completely missed my chance to make Barnard Castle jokes to the optician. (Although probably everybody was doing it so she could have been relieved.)

The Don · 1st August 2020, 08:29 AM

Originally Posted by zooterkin

It’s a long way to Barnard’s Castle from here.

I still haven't been able to visit

. I have a 12-pack of Brewdog's Barnard Castle Eyesight Test to deliver to a mate and I'd like to see if they've started work on my late father's home (it sold 4 weeks ago).

Captain_Swoop · 1st August 2020, 09:39 AM

UK had 3200 a day new infections a week ago
Now 4200 a day !
SPAIN has 1500 tested positive yesterday and UK is putting restrictions on returning from Spain.

sphenisc · 1st August 2020, 10:00 AM

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop

UK had 3200 a day new infections a week ago
Now 4200 a day !
SPAIN has 1500 tested positive yesterday and UK is putting restrictions on returning from Spain.

UK had 770 new cases today according to Worldometer.

Also the UK had dropped out of the top 10 for cases and has been overtaken by Mexico for deaths.

Trebuchet · 1st August 2020, 10:10 AM

Originally Posted by sphenisc

UK had 770 new cases today according to Worldometer.

Also the UK had dropped out of the top 10 for cases and has been overtaken by Mexico for deaths.

The USA managed 92 times that many cases. We're number one!

jimbob · 1st August 2020, 11:14 AM

From the "Trafford Express" on Facebook (motto - Fake news you can trust)

Quote:

In Manchester, you can be sacked for refusing to go and sit with someone in an office, fined £100 for sitting with them at home, and given a money-off deal to sit with them in a busy restaurant.

Rolfe · 1st August 2020, 11:19 AM

The UK as a whole had 761 new cases today

England 722
Scotland 18
Wales 21
NI 0

(Actually I think NI doesn't update its numbers at the weekend.) If you express this per million population you get

England 10.9
Scotland 3.3
Wales 6.7

zooterkin · 1st August 2020, 12:35 PM

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop

UK had 3200 a day new infections a week ago
Now 4200 a day !

Er, what? Do you mean a week, not a day?

https://coronavirus-staging.data.gov.uk/cases

Captain_Swoop · 1st August 2020, 12:42 PM

Yup, i mixed that up a bit

Childlike Empress · 1st August 2020, 03:27 PM

An amazing day in Berlin today. A massive demo against the corona nonsense. System press is laughably claiming there were 20,000 participants while the whole city was full and the Straße des 17. Juli looked like during the Love Parade. Easily in the mid-to-high six digit figures. And then the police tried to end it prematurely and everybody was like "we stay here" and the police was like "ok, whatever". A day that will go down in history, maybe even under its motto "Das Ende der Pandemie - Der Tag der Freiheit"!

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edit: Police: "go home", People: "Wir bleiben hier" (we stay here), "Widerstand" (resistance) and "Wir sind das Volk" (we are the people, classic slogan of the 1989 peaceful revolution against the GDR):

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Myriad · 1st August 2020, 05:19 PM

Originally Posted by Childlike Empress

An amazing day in Berlin today. A massive demo against the corona nonsense. System press is laughably claiming there were 20,000 participants while the whole city was full and the Straße des 17. Juli looked like during the Love Parade. Easily in the mid-to-high six digit figures. And then the police tried to end it prematurely and everybody was like "we stay here" and the police was like "ok, whatever". A day that will go down in history, maybe even under its motto "Das Ende der Pandemie - Der Tag der Freiheit"!

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I AGREE

edit: Police: "go home", People: "Wir bleiben hier" (we stay here), "Widerstand" (resistance) and "Wir sind das Volk" (we are the people, classic slogan of the 1989 peaceful revolution against the GDR):

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I AGREE

Nice going! I'm sure once the virus sees that the people are opposed to it, it will stop infecting them.

Childlike Empress · 1st August 2020, 06:23 PM

Originally Posted by Myriad

Nice going! I'm sure once the virus sees that the people are opposed to it, it will stop infecting them.

It's the other way around. We realized that the virus loves us while it attacks bad karma people like yours, so we thought we'd tell the government about it.

The demands from the stage to the government were: Stop all "Corona-Measures" immediately, then resign and organize new elections as soon as possible.

Childlike Empress · 1st August 2020, 06:29 PM

Kidding aside, there is something very, very interesting brewing here. The participants were mostly "normies" as they say, and their level of information about the situation is way above what the average ISF science subforum reader has.

We'll see. Maybe in our n-th attempt we'll finally save the world.

Lukraak_Sisser · 1st August 2020, 10:42 PM

It's not often I see Childlike Empress agree with Trump and Bolsonarno, I guess those lead countries which are sterling examples of how well you can control the virus by ignoring it.

jimbob · 1st August 2020, 11:35 PM

Quote:

Most troubling of all, perhaps, was a sentiment the expert said a member of Kushner’s team expressed: that because the virus had hit blue states hardest, a national plan was unnecessary and would not make sense politically. “The political folks believed that because it was going to be relegated to Democratic states, that they could blame those governors, and that would be an effective political strategy,” said the expert.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020...-into-thin-air

zooterkin · 1st August 2020, 11:55 PM

Originally Posted by Childlike Empress

An amazing day in Berlin today. A massive demo against the corona nonsense.

What specifically are they claiming is nonsense?

zooterkin · 1st August 2020, 11:56 PM

Originally Posted by Childlike Empress

Kidding aside, there is something very, very interesting brewing here. The participants were mostly "normies" as they say, and their level of information about the situation is way above what the average ISF science subforum reader has.

We'll see. Maybe in our n-th attempt we'll finally save the world.

30th July 2020, 02:57 AM	#242
Darat Lackey Administrator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: South East, UK Posts: 96,143	Originally Posted by The Don The UK government are continuing their stellar job of making up policy on the fly. Nick Hancock has suggested that the 14 day quarantine period for international arrivals may be cut (presumably because it's unpopular) at the same time as the government increases the period of self-isolation for those with symptoms from 7 days to 10 days (until that proves unpopular and it's reduced again). Scurrilous accusation that is totally untrue. Policy is not made up on the fly but after a careful examination of all relevant data, i.e. the headlines and how Johnson is polling
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30th July 2020, 03:03 AM	#243
Squeegee Beckenheim Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 31,006	I think this is the most shocking report to come out yet: A study has found that Dominic Cummings' trip to Durham undermined lockdown, and made people less trusting of politicians I'm shocked. Are you shocked? I am. Shocked!
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30th July 2020, 03:22 AM	#244
Darat Lackey Administrator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: South East, UK Posts: 96,143	Originally Posted by Squeegee Beckenheim I think this is the most shocking report to come out yet: A study has found that Dominic Cummings' trip to Durham undermined lockdown, and made people less trusting of politicians I'm shocked. Are you shocked? I am. Shocked! I've probably already mentioned it in this thread - but this was the first time I've ever been able to say I've seen such a thing happen. Usually people claim something like Ed Milliband "two kitchens" faux pa and we are told this had an impact on people but I've never seen that having any real effect on people's attitudes at the time but Cummings really did and it was across the board regardless of political leaning.
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30th July 2020, 03:19 PM	#246
Samson Philosopher Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 9,268	Nicola Sturgeon praised for covid response https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/a...ectid=12352492 I expect Rolfe may expand on this.
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30th July 2020, 03:39 PM	#247
Rolfe Anti-homeopathy illuminati member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: NT 150 511 Posts: 46,400	Hmm. She's done OK since May. She's doing OK now. In March she killed four thousand people.
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30th July 2020, 02:55 AM	#241
The Don Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Sir Fynwy Posts: 31,059	The UK government are continuing their stellar job of making up policy on the fly. Nick Hancock has suggested that the 14 day quarantine period for international arrivals may be cut (presumably because it's unpopular) at the same time as the government increases the period of self-isolation for those with symptoms from 7 days to 10 days (until that proves unpopular and it's reduced again).

30th July 2020, 05:48 AM	#245
The Don Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Sir Fynwy Posts: 31,059	Boris Johnson is warning the country that we're not out of the woods yet: Quote: UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson has said it's "absolutely vital as a country we don’t delude ourselves that somehow we’re out of the woods or this is all over, because it isn’t all over". https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/worl...ost_type=share Gosh, I wonder how people could have come to such an errant conclusion ? Quote: Coronavirus restrictions will ease further in England under plans for a "significant return to normality" by Christmas, Boris Johnson has announced. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53441912

31st July 2020, 02:05 AM	#248
Captain_Swoop Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 31,403	So people in Manchester can share a room with lots of others and get pissed if it's a pub but they can't do that in their own home, why? Because money, if you think this government give a ** about your health you're a *** barmcake! That a government minister announces informally late night on Twitter that there are new laws with criminal sanctions with immediate effect is exactly the opposite of what should be happening in a well-functioning parliamentary democracy. Boris boasting of 'massive success' over coronavirus deaths within hours of the Office for National Statistics revealing England was found to have the worst excess death total in Europe. And still people defend him with the 'no comparison compare because different methods' ******.
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31st July 2020, 02:06 AM	#249
The Don Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Sir Fynwy Posts: 31,059	I fear that this latest announcement will result in a Coronavirus spike in Wales Quote: Up to 30 people can meet outdoors and children under 11 will not have to social distance in Wales from Monday. Swimming pools, gyms, leisure centres and indoor play areas, including soft play, can reopen from 10 August. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-53595372 I suppose that as long as the Welsh government are prepared to reverse these decisions at the first sign of a significant rise in cases, then it's OK news.

31st July 2020, 02:08 AM	#250
The Don Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Sir Fynwy Posts: 31,059	Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop That a government minister announces informally late night on Twitter that there are new laws with criminal sanctions with immediate effect is exactly the opposite of what should be happening in a well-functioning parliamentary democracy. Boris boasting of 'massive success' over coronavirus deaths within hours of the Office for National Statistics revealing England was found to have the worst excess death total in Europe. And still people defend him with the 'no comparison compare because different methods' ********. Boris Johnson's boast is really quite cynical. We had deaths spiralling out of control but instead of trying to learn from the mistakes that got us to that sorry position, he's chosen to crow about how the numbers are now merely bad.

31st July 2020, 04:16 AM	#251
Darat Lackey Administrator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: South East, UK Posts: 96,143	I was thinking about the contrast with the "financial crisis" of 2008 and today and one thing I think has been remarkably different is that we haven't had a figure step up to the global stage. During the 2008 crisis Brown and to a lesser extent Darling did help shape the global response, brokered deals amongst the G20 such as the 1 trillion dollar bail out. It's not that we've not seen impressive leaders in their own countries but this pandemic seems to have lacked someone who has managed to shape the worldwide response, someone to get the world's major leaders together (if only by Zoom! ).
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31st July 2020, 05:44 AM	#252
Squeegee Beckenheim Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 31,006	God, you know the situation is bad when you're praising Gordon Brown in comparison.
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31st July 2020, 08:13 AM	#253
The Don Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Sir Fynwy Posts: 31,059	Nicola Sturgeon acting decisively to try to limit infections from England. Doubtless she'll be criticised for her "racism". Quote: Scotland's First Minister Nicola Sturgeon is giving more details on her government's advice against non-essential travel to parts of northern England. People should only travel to areas covered by the UK government's new restrictions - Greater Manchester, east Lancashire and parts of West Yorkshire - if absolutely necessary, she says at an impromptu press conference. "If you're returning to Scotland from these parts of the north of England we're asking you to minimise your contact with people outside of your own household for 14 days after your return. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/worl...ost_type=share

31st July 2020, 08:13 AM	#254
Captain_Swoop Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 31,403	Brown was a good Chancellor, He wasn't such a good PM and had the bad luck to be PM at the time of the global crash.

31st July 2020, 10:46 AM	#255
Rolfe Anti-homeopathy illuminati member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: NT 150 511 Posts: 46,400	Originally Posted by The Don Nicola Sturgeon acting decisively to try to limit infections from England. Doubtless she'll be criticised for her "racism". https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/worl...ost_type=share I listened to it live and she was practically doing contortions to head off that accusation. I have a very close friend who lives in Calderdale. I always spend Christmas with her and her family. I was thinking of phoning and remarking that I'd just been banned from visiting her! (She's Scottish, as it happens. So racist, this.)
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31st July 2020, 11:01 AM	#256
P.J. Denyer Philosopher Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 7,725	Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop Brown was a good Chancellor, He wasn't such a good PM and had the bad luck to be PM at the time of the global crash. According to Conservatives he was the most powerful PM ever since apparently he caused the worldwide crash.
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31st July 2020, 01:00 PM	#257
Captain_Swoop Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 31,403	New local lockdown rules. You can drink cider with a goth in a graveyard but only on Cher's birthday. Space hoppers will now be the only transport. Wotsits are illegal. You can dress a Badger up as a Viking on Tuesdays. You MUST play the piano with your feet.

31st July 2020, 01:12 PM	#258
ZeeGerman Graduate Poster Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Nuremberg area Posts: 1,091	Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop New local lockdown rules. You can drink cider with a goth in a graveyard but only on Cher's birthday. Space hoppers will now be the only transport. Wotsits are illegal. You can dress a Badger up as a Viking on Tuesdays. You MUST play the piano with your feet. I had to google Wotsits. Banning them sounds reasonable
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31st July 2020, 01:27 PM	#259
P.J. Denyer Philosopher Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 7,725	Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop New local lockdown rules. You can drink cider with a goth in a graveyard but only on Cher's birthday. Space hoppers will now be the only transport. Wotsits are illegal. You can dress a Badger up as a Viking on Tuesdays. You MUST play the piano with your feet. Dammit, I'd already booked the badger for Thursday.
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31st July 2020, 01:37 PM	#260
Darat Lackey Administrator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: South East, UK Posts: 96,143	Originally Posted by P.J. Denyer Dammit, I'd already booked the badger for Thursday. I'm painting a stripe down the back of mine so I can claim it is skunk, I doubt whether anybody will be bothered enough to get their eyes tested to double check.
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31st July 2020, 06:52 PM	#261
Captain_Swoop Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 31,403	One or more of those might not be true!!

1st August 2020, 01:29 AM	#262
timhau NWO Litter Technician Join Date: May 2004 Location: Looks like Finland. Smells like Finland. Quacks like Finland. Where the hell am I? Posts: 14,378	Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop One or more of those might not be true!! You got infected by Trump tweets?
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1st August 2020, 06:09 AM	#263
zooterkin Nitpicking dilettante Administrator Photo Contest Winner Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Berkshire, mostly Posts: 48,029	Originally Posted by Darat I'm painting a stripe down the back of mine so I can claim it is skunk, I doubt whether anybody will be bothered enough to get their eyes tested to double check. It’s a long way to Barnard’s Castle from here.
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1st August 2020, 06:28 AM	#264
Rolfe Anti-homeopathy illuminati member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: NT 150 511 Posts: 46,400	I actually had an eye test on Thursday. I drove to Roslin for it, about 12 miles away. I completely missed my chance to make Barnard Castle jokes to the optician. (Although probably everybody was doing it so she could have been relieved.)
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1st August 2020, 08:29 AM	#265
The Don Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Sir Fynwy Posts: 31,059	Originally Posted by zooterkin It’s a long way to Barnard’s Castle from here. I still haven't been able to visit . I have a 12-pack of Brewdog's Barnard Castle Eyesight Test to deliver to a mate and I'd like to see if they've started work on my late father's home (it sold 4 weeks ago).

1st August 2020, 09:39 AM	#266
Captain_Swoop Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 31,403	UK had 3200 a day new infections a week ago Now 4200 a day ! SPAIN has 1500 tested positive yesterday and UK is putting restrictions on returning from Spain.

1st August 2020, 10:00 AM	#267
sphenisc Philosopher Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 5,363	Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop UK had 3200 a day new infections a week ago Now 4200 a day ! SPAIN has 1500 tested positive yesterday and UK is putting restrictions on returning from Spain. UK had 770 new cases today according to Worldometer. Also the UK had dropped out of the top 10 for cases and has been overtaken by Mexico for deaths.
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1st August 2020, 10:10 AM	#268
Trebuchet Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Port Townsend, Washington Posts: 30,665	Originally Posted by sphenisc UK had 770 new cases today according to Worldometer. Also the UK had dropped out of the top 10 for cases and has been overtaken by Mexico for deaths. The USA managed 92 times that many cases. We're number one!
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1st August 2020, 11:14 AM	#269
jimbob Uncritical "thinker" Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: UK Posts: 22,703	From the "Trafford Express" on Facebook (motto - Fake news you can trust) Quote: In Manchester, you can be sacked for refusing to go and sit with someone in an office, fined £100 for sitting with them at home, and given a money-off deal to sit with them in a busy restaurant.
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1st August 2020, 11:19 AM	#270
Rolfe Anti-homeopathy illuminati member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: NT 150 511 Posts: 46,400	The UK as a whole had 761 new cases today England 722 Scotland 18 Wales 21 NI 0 (Actually I think NI doesn't update its numbers at the weekend.) If you express this per million population you get England 10.9 Scotland 3.3 Wales 6.7
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1st August 2020, 12:35 PM	#271
zooterkin Nitpicking dilettante Administrator Photo Contest Winner Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Berkshire, mostly Posts: 48,029	Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop UK had 3200 a day new infections a week ago Now 4200 a day ! Er, what? Do you mean a week, not a day? https://coronavirus-staging.data.gov.uk/cases
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1st August 2020, 12:42 PM	#272
Captain_Swoop Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 31,403	Yup, i mixed that up a bit

1st August 2020, 06:23 PM	#275
Childlike Empress Ewige Blumenkraft Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Ivory Tower Posts: 18,859	Originally Posted by Myriad Nice going! I'm sure once the virus sees that the people are opposed to it, it will stop infecting them. It's the other way around. We realized that the virus loves us while it attacks bad karma people like yours, so we thought we'd tell the government about it. The demands from the stage to the government were: Stop all "Corona-Measures" immediately, then resign and organize new elections as soon as possible.
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1st August 2020, 06:29 PM	#276
Childlike Empress Ewige Blumenkraft Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Ivory Tower Posts: 18,859	Kidding aside, there is something very, very interesting brewing here. The participants were mostly "normies" as they say, and their level of information about the situation is way above what the average ISF science subforum reader has. We'll see. Maybe in our n-th attempt we'll finally save the world.
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1st August 2020, 10:42 PM	#277
Lukraak_Sisser Illuminator Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 3,922	It's not often I see Childlike Empress agree with Trump and Bolsonarno, I guess those lead countries which are sterling examples of how well you can control the virus by ignoring it.