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Old 21st July 2020, 04:54 PM   #41
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The problem with killed judges in the American system is it always backfires. Perps get nailed to the wall, good lawyers won't defend them, and whatever syndicate they belong to is hunted down, and destroyed.

The problem in this case is that the trial hadn't started. There was no way to know how the judge would rule.

Also, Deutsche Bank's body-count is all suicides.
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Old 21st July 2020, 11:24 PM   #42
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Originally Posted by catsmate View Post

Evidence for this claim?



Still waiting for you to provide evidence for your assertions.



Pathetic.


There are "millions of heartbroken people", most of them aren't pathetic misogynistic idiots with fantasies of violence and cancer diagnoses.



Have a look at his resume in post #1.
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Old 21st July 2020, 11:28 PM   #43
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Originally Posted by Axxman300 View Post
The problem with killed judges in the American system is it always backfires. Perps get nailed to the wall, good lawyers won't defend them, and whatever syndicate they belong to is hunted down, and destroyed.

The problem in this case is that the trial hadn't started. There was no way to know how the judge would rule.

Also, Deutsche Bank's body-count is all suicides.
It suicided this guy. Got a hitman to send a message to the state [Fedex = Federal Bureau of Investigation]. If it can get one Fedex costume, it can get two. Hitman no.1 turns up at the Salas household. Patsy no. 2, old guy with terminal cancer with a history of being mentally unhinged also in Fedex costume found dead at the wheel of his car. Case closed. Message sent.
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Old 22nd July 2020, 01:39 AM   #44
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Originally Posted by Vixen View Post
It suicided this guy. Got a hitman to send a message to the state [Fedex = Federal Bureau of Investigation]. If it can get one Fedex costume, it can get two. Hitman no.1 turns up at the Salas household. Patsy no. 2, old guy with terminal cancer with a history of being mentally unhinged also in Fedex costume found dead at the wheel of his car. Case closed. Message sent.
This is just full on CT nutjobbery...and you wonder why this thread has been moved to conspiracy theories?
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Old 22nd July 2020, 07:30 AM   #45
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Originally Posted by Vixen View Post
It suicided this guy. Got a hitman to send a message to the state [Fedex = Federal Bureau of Investigation]. If it can get one Fedex costume, it can get two. Hitman no.1 turns up at the Salas household. Patsy no. 2, old guy with terminal cancer with a history of being mentally unhinged also in Fedex costume found dead at the wheel of his car. Case closed. Message sent.
Who needs evidence when opinion is so much more entertaining.
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Old 22nd July 2020, 07:42 AM   #46
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Originally Posted by smartcooky View Post
1. Federal Circuit Court Judge Richard J. Daronco was assassinated at his home in Pelham, New York on 1988, as an act of revenge by Charles Koster, the father of a disgruntled plaintiff whose sexual harassment lawsuit against her former employer had been dismissed by Daronco for lack of evidence.

2. The father-in-law of MSNBC contributor and former US Attorney, Joyce Vance, federal judge Robert S. Vance, was murdered by a mail bomb in 1989. The bomber's motive for killing Judge Vance was revenge against Vance's court, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Eleventh Circuit, which had refused to expunge that conviction

3. West Texas District Count Judge John H. Wood Jr. was assassinated outside his home in San Antonio, in 1979. He was murdered by a contract killer hired by Texas drug lord Jamiel Chagra, who was awaiting trial before the judge.

Yes, the killing of judges is unusual, but it does happen!
Epstein didn't kill himself, but he did kill all those judges.
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Old 22nd July 2020, 07:47 AM   #47
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Originally Posted by Vixen View Post
Have a look at his resume in post #1.
People lie on their resumes all the time. This is why employers conduct interviews, test competence, ask for references, and do background checks.

Sensible people investigate the claims made on resumes.

You're not only assuming they're true, you're assuming they're the tip of a truth iceberg that exists only in your imagination. Because, you know, CT.
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Old 22nd July 2020, 08:02 AM   #48
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Wasn't this guy terminally ill? With nothing to lose, going on a vendetta against his perceived enemies seems highly plausible.
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And do we have a better Maxwell/Russia/(and Epstein?) connection than an unrelated meeting 40 years ago?

Crap... here come the zebras.
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Old 22nd July 2020, 10:38 AM   #50
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Originally Posted by Vixen View Post
It suicided this guy. Got a hitman to send a message to the state [Fedex = Federal Bureau of Investigation]. If it can get one Fedex costume, it can get two. Hitman no.1 turns up at the Salas household. Patsy no. 2, old guy with terminal cancer with a history of being mentally unhinged also in Fedex costume found dead at the wheel of his car. Case closed. Message sent.
According to some Q guy on Twitter, the assassin himself was then killed. I wonder if the meta-assassin was offed as well.
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Old 22nd July 2020, 11:16 AM   #51
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According to some Q guy on Twitter, the assassin himself was then killed. I wonder if the meta-assassin was offed as well.
The simplest explanation is that yes, the, meta-assassin was offed as well. It's a murder-suicide with a gratuitously convoluted description.
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The simplest explanation is that yes, the, meta-assassin was offed as well. It's a murder-suicide with a gratuitously convoluted description.
My mind quickly flashed to the phrase "turtles all the way down" - probably Mitch McConnell is the assassin.
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Old 22nd July 2020, 11:27 AM   #53
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The simplest explanation is that yes, the, meta-assassin was offed as well.
I have high hopes that this chain will eventually solve the overpopulation problem.
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I have high hopes that this chain will eventually solve the overpopulation problem.
Nah. It's like a stable time loop: The only problem it solves is the one it created.
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I have high hopes that this chain will eventually solve the overpopulation problem.
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According to some Q guy on Twitter, the assassin himself was then killed. I wonder if the meta-assassin was offed as well.
Here's proof:

Great fleas have little fleas upon their backs to bite 'em,
And little fleas have lesser fleas, and so ad infinitum.
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Have a look at his resume in post #1.
So no support for your claims that the attempted murderer was anything other than a misogynistic nutter then?
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It suicided this guy. Got a hitman to send a message to the state [Fedex = Federal Bureau of Investigation]. If it can get one Fedex costume, it can get two. Hitman no.1 turns up at the Salas household. Patsy no. 2, old guy with terminal cancer with a history of being mentally unhinged also in Fedex costume found dead at the wheel of his car. Case closed. Message sent.
Bollocks. More pathetic, conspiratorial nonsense.
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Wasn't this guy terminally ill? With nothing to lose, going on a vendetta against his perceived enemies seems highly plausible.
According to several reports, yes. Or he thought he was anyway.
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Deep state sending a message. Reading the article in post #3 [his resumé] you can see he spent significant time in Russia and the then USSR, even involved in developing their intelligence.
The article in post 3 - https://www.villagevoice.com/2010/09...ladies-nights/ - says nothing about him "developing [Russian] intelligence".

edit: His resumé is in the first post, not the third, and it says nothing about him "developing [Russian] intelligence", it says nothing of the sort about "developing intelligence" for the Russians. That's something you just invented, like the idea that he's some sort of double agent involved in espionage. I imagine you think you're reading between the lines and not just making stuff up.

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Originally Posted by Vixen View Post
It suicided this guy. Got a hitman to send a message to the state [Fedex = Federal Bureau of Investigation]. If it can get one Fedex costume, it can get two. Hitman no.1 turns up at the Salas household. Patsy no. 2, old guy with terminal cancer with a history of being mentally unhinged also in Fedex costume found dead at the wheel of his car. Case closed. Message sent.
He's gone in your eyes from being a double agent who helped develop Russian intelligence to being a mentally unhinged patsy setup to take the fall for this murder. You are all over the place.
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Well, it is a conspiracy theory. We're probably only two steps away from the conclusion that everyone except Vixen is in on it. Including the victims.
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He's gone in your eyes from being a double agent who helped develop Russian intelligence to being a mentally unhinged patsy setup to take the fall for this murder. You are all over the place.
Originally Posted by JesseCuster View Post
The article in post 3 - https://www.villagevoice.com/2010/09...ladies-nights/ - says nothing about him "developing [Russian] intelligence".

edit: His resumé is in the first post, not the third, and it says nothing about him "developing [Russian] intelligence", it says nothing of the sort about "developing intelligence" for the Russians. That's something you just invented, like the idea that he's some sort of double agent involved in espionage. I imagine you think you're reading between the lines and not just making stuff up.
Techniques drawn right out of the nutjob CT operation manual.
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Well, it is a conspiracy theory. We're probably only two steps away from the conclusion that everyone except Vixen is in on it. Including the victims.
Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon (... is a hitman).

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He's gone in your eyes from being a double agent who helped develop Russian intelligence to being a mentally unhinged patsy setup to take the fall for this murder. You are all over the place.
All I am reporting is what is being said in the media.
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All I am reporting is what is being said in the media.
Where does the media say he was a double agent involved in espionage and developing Russian intelligence or that he was 'suicided' by a second hitman?
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Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon (... is a hitman).

Kevin Bacon and Woody Harrelson were in a live all in the family broadcast together and Woody's dad was a hitman who murdered a federal judge.
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It suicided this guy. Got a hitman to send a message to the state [Fedex = Federal Bureau of Investigation]. If it can get one Fedex costume, it can get two. Hitman no.1 turns up at the Salas household. Patsy no. 2, old guy with terminal cancer with a history of being mentally unhinged also in Fedex costume found dead at the wheel of his car. Case closed. Message sent.
You clearly have watched way too many movies.
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Here's proof:

Great fleas have little fleas upon their backs to bite 'em,
And little fleas have lesser fleas, and so ad infinitum.

And some of those lesser fleas created the Black plague !

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Kevin Bacon and Woody Harrelson were in a live all in the family broadcast together and Woody's dad was a hitman who murdered a federal judge.
Yeah... the Texas judge (Fed?) who was after Binion Sr., who had boogied to Vegas to found the Horseshoe (go WSOP, woot) but still had a manslaughter rap pending back home (cash poker game gone sour IIRC).
Was going to mention it yesterday.
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Yeah... the Texas judge (Fed?) who was after Binion Sr., who had boogied to Vegas to found the Horseshoe (go WSOP, woot) but still had a manslaughter rap (cash poker game gone sour IIRC) pending back home.
Was going to mention it yesterday.
Wiki says he was a federal judge.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_H._Wood_Jr.
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Originally Posted by ponderingturtle View Post
Wiki says he was a federal judge.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_H._Wood_Jr.
Thought so, wasn't sure. Thx.
Not curious enough ATM to check if Benny's Texas trouble (he did serve some time) was before the '79 assassination.
Looks like "Maximum John" (the judge) was on more than a few bad guys' hitlists though.
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It suicided this guy. Got a hitman to send a message to the state [Fedex = Federal Bureau of Investigation]. If it can get one Fedex costume, it can get two. Hitman no.1 turns up at the Salas household. Patsy no. 2, old guy with terminal cancer with a history of being mentally unhinged also in Fedex costume found dead at the wheel of his car. Case closed. Message sent.
Somehow, I doubt that getting a fake Fedex uniform was the hard part of the conspiracy (in the extremely unlikely event that there actually was one).
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Where does the media say he was a double agent involved in espionage and developing Russian intelligence or that he was 'suicided' by a second hitman?
Are you sure you really want to know where Vixen is reading this crap?
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Judge's son gunned down, hitman found dead in car

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This seems like an overly complicated and noisy way to send a message. How is the intended recipient supposed to know they're the recipient? How can the sender be sure their message will be correctly interpreted.

I think if one of the power elite wanted to send a message to another of the power elite, they'd have their people pick up the phone, call the recipient's people, and give them the message.

Also, I'm pretty sure DeutscheBank has comprehensive, proven systems in place to handle threats like this lawsuit, without having to resort to weird-ass murder-suicide "messages".
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Old 23rd July 2020, 10:42 AM   #77
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Originally Posted by a_unique_person View Post
I'm still not getting the Wayfair reference.
See here-: http://www.internationalskeptics.com...&postcount=214

And my apologies for exposing you to this particular pit of crazy.
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Old 23rd July 2020, 10:54 AM   #78
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Originally Posted by ponderingturtle View Post
Kevin Bacon and Woody Harrelson were in a live all in the family broadcast together and Woody's dad was a hitman who murdered a federal judge.
Woody's dad also claimed to have shot JFK! No-one takes it seriously but he made the claim.
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Originally Posted by theprestige View Post
This seems like an overly complicated and noisy way to send a message. How is the intended recipient supposed to know they're the recipient? How can the sender be sure their message will be correctly interpreted.

I think if one of the power elite wanted to send a message to another of the power elite, they'd have their people pick up the phone, call the recipient's people, and give them the message.

Also, I'm pretty sure DeutscheBank has comprehensive, proven systems in place to handle threats like this lawsuit, without having to resort to weird-ass murder-suicide "messages".
Jeez... don't ask so many questions.
You want a visit from FedEx or somthin'?
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Originally Posted by Jim_MDP View Post
Jeez... don't ask so many questions.
You want a visit from FedEx or somthin'?
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I just ordered a coffee table off of Wayfair, so... yes, actually.
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