Continuation Qanon Conspiracy Theories Part Two

[carlitos]

Fun fact - exempting charitable donations from tax was originally a way to get the rich to support the 16th Amendment, and their spending was generally thought of as an alternative to government spending on the same areas.

[Bubba]

Failed ad hominem attack.

Originally Posted by RolandRat

"Dr. Annie Bukacek is not an unfamiliar figure in the far right. The head of the Montana Pro-Life Coalition, Bukacek is well-known for bringing tiny plastic fetuses to the state legislature; in 2009, she was under investigation for Medicaid fraud following complaints that she had submitted reimbursements for time spent praying with patients. (Bukacek did not return a request for comment.)"

https://www.rollingstone.com/culture...icates-984407/

Bukacek is (probably unsurprisingly) an anti-vaxer.

She is not the only doctor complaining about the death certificate policy, .

[Childlike Empress]

Originally Posted by SuburbanTurkey

There's a real critique out there of Bill Gates that doesn't require conspiratorial thinking about RF chips or whatever.

There is no need for "conspiratorial thinking" when it comes to what Bill Gates wants to do with his money to "help humanity" in this regard. He's quite talkative. Maybe read the following two articles and combine the information.

https://reclaimthenet.org/gates-digi...ted-in-africa/
http://news.mit.edu/2019/storing-vac...tory-skin-1218

So, that gives us a "chipped" (Quantum-Dot tattood) world population with information about identity, medical records and a payment system. Ready to roll out and about to be tested with those poor black babies in West Africa.

[carlitos]

Welcome to upside-down CT world.

• Childhood vaccines someday = Covid-19 vaccine this year.
• Test in Africa = world population.
• The encrypted hash system that PREVENTS you from having to give your identity card, etc., and dots under your arm that don't identify you by name = your identity.

[RolandRat]

Originally Posted by Bubba

Failed ad hominem attack.










She is not the only doctor complaining about the death certificate policy, .

You put her up as an authority. It is perfect credible to mention things about her which influence what she says.

Can you name the other doctors involved?

Oh and PS:

"“Bukacek’s central claim that COVID-19 is being cited as the primary cause of death to inflate the overall death count … appears to be based on the idea that CDC guidelines indicate that medical examiners should list COVID-19 as the underlying cause of death in instances wherein victims have had other conditions, such as hypertension or COPD (which make them more susceptible to COVID-19 complications to begin with).” Dr. Sally Aiken, president of the National Association of Medical Examiners, said the CDC’s guidelines are “to list COVID-19 as the underlying cause of death, because it was the disease which initiated the chain of events that directly lead to death.” Studies suggest COVID-19 deaths have actually been underreported, "

https://www.explorebigsky.com/montan...protests/34204

[Childlike Empress]

Originally Posted by carlitos

Welcome to upside-down CT world.

• Childhood vaccines someday = Covid-19 vaccine this year.
• Test in Africa = world population.
• The encrypted hash system that PREVENTS you from having to give your identity card, etc., and dots under your arm that don't identify you by name = your identity.

This thing WILL BE your identity as far as Bill is concerned. Who cares about your name?

It's hilarious to watch this constant pseudo-skeptic dance of "isn't true" to "so what". At least for a while. You better hope Bubba doesn't get tired of it like I have years ago.

[abaddon]

Originally Posted by Bubba

Who elected Bill Gates ?

To what?

[Bubba]

Well of course you would.

This is why it is called an information war, and its 100% politics now.

Originally Posted by Resume

In actual factual news.

Believe what you will.


The doctors speaking at the Capitol yesterday (now censored by youtube) are on the other side of the info war.

Dr. Emmanuel said she successfully treated 350 covids with HCQz, and never got infected herself. She said she takes the small prophylaxis dose herself.

[Bubba]

(peaceful) EXPLOSIVES are used against feds and cops in Seattle, Portland and Atlanta while BLM protester is shot dead in Austin on night of nationwide unrest - as angry Trump vents on Twitter after deploying federal agents in bid to quell violence


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...es-flames.html

[Resume]

Originally Posted by Bubba

Dr. Emmanuel said she successfully treated 350 covids with HCQz, and never got infected herself. She said she takes the small prophylaxis dose herself.

Yes, people say lots of things. The scientific community has this to say about Ghizzie's boyfriend's pet snake oil.

Quote:

Nissen and Borio say observational studies simply cannot be used to determine whether a medicine is effective. Again and again they have been wrong . . .

A huge amount of scientific attention has been focused on hydroxychloroquine. An analysis Monday by STAT and AppliedXL, a computational journalism company, found that 1 in 6 clinical trials started for Covid-19 involved hydroxychloroquine or a similar drug, chloroquine.

“The medical community has come to the inescapable conclusion that hydroxychloroquine is not effective at treating Covid-19 infections,” said Steven Nissen, a cardiologist at the Cleveland Clinic and a longtime clinical trialist.

Said Nissen: “The sooner we stop talking about hydroxychloroquine, the sooner we can focus attention on more promising therapies.”

I am sorry you fell for Donnie's claptrap. I am sorry his sycophants have to push bull **** for their hero. I'm sorry time was take away from studying effectives treatments for COVID-19, but that's the price we're paying to salve the ego of a cowardly leader who refused to admit he is wrong about anything.

[Bubba]

Originally Posted by abaddon

You posted a link to #321. and my post was in response to a post by Matthew Ellard.

Your post 338 there still looks as I told you, and you were responding to RolandRat.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pixel42 View Post
You might wanna check Post #338 in pizza thread.

Lest there be further confusion, it appears Pixel42 somehow got blamed for authoring my statement "You might wanna check Post #338 in pizza thread."

Same as happened recently where someone else's words were attributed to jay utah .

[RolandRat]

Originally Posted by Bubba

This is why it is called an information war, and its 100% politics now.

Believe what you will.

The doctors speaking at the Capitol yesterday (now censored by youtube) are on the other side of the info war.

Dr. Emmanuel said she successfully treated 350 covids with HCQz, and never got infected herself. She said she takes the small prophylaxis dose herself.

"Immanuel—who is both a pediatrician and religious minister—has made off-the-wall medical claims in the past. She’s alleged that gynecological problems like cysts and endometriosis are the result of people having sex in their dreams with demons and witches. She's also alleged that alien DNA is used in medical treatments and that scientists are working on a vaccine to stop people from being religious. Even though she lobbied the government this week, she has said parts of it are run by “reptilians” and other aliens."

https://www.complex.com/life/2020/07...-twitter-trend

Believe what you will indeed

[Bubba]

Originally Posted by Resume

Yes, people say lots of things. The scientific community has this to say about Ghizzie's boyfriend's pet snake oil.



I am sorry you fell for Donnie's claptrap. I am sorry his sycophants have to push bull **** for their hero. I'm sorry time was take away from studying effectives treatments for COVID-19, but that's the price we're paying to salve the ego of a cowardly leader who refused to admit he is wrong about anything.

Sorry....Yesterday's doctors speaking, and their being censored trumps anything you have said.

[Bubba]

One ad hominem down, hundreds to go.

Originally Posted by RolandRat

"Immanuel—who is both a pediatrician and religious minister—has made off-the-wall medical claims in the past. She’s alleged that gynecological problems like cysts and endometriosis are the result of people having sex in their dreams with demons and witches. She's also alleged that alien DNA is used in medical treatments and that scientists are working on a vaccine to stop people from being religious. Even though she lobbied the government this week, she has said parts of it are run by “reptilians” and other aliens."

https://www.complex.com/life/2020/07...-twitter-trend

Believe what you will indeed

[Resume]

Why the latest chloroquine study Trump pimped is flawed.

Quote:

Like a child capable of keeping only one idea in its head at a time, President Trump has continued his obsession with the antimalarial drug hydroxychloroquine as a treatment for the coronavirus despite an ever-growing body of work that it’s useless for the purpose.

This week, he was at it again.

Trump on July 6 tweet-touted a study from the “highly respected” Henry Ford Health System of Detroit, purporting to show that the drug “cut the death rate in certain sick patients very significantly.”

The truth is that retrospective studies of this sort are inferior to randomized controlled studies, the gold standard, for several reasons. They’re subject to biases, subtle and overt, because the researchers know what they’re looking for.

They’re subject to confounding variables, including the medical histories of the patients or the severity of their infections, that may not be evident to the researchers or readers. The patients may have received some treatments that aren’t part of the study, but may have a deciding impact on the results.

It turns out that all these flaws are present in the Henry Ford study. We know this in part because the International Journal of Infectious Diseases, which published the study, also ran an editorial comment that laid them out.

The most glaring flaw is that the patients given hydroxychloroquine, either alone or with the antibiotic, were twice as likely as the other patients to also have received a steroid. As Gorski points out, that’s important because a randomized controlled study has found that the steroid dexamethasone has “resulted in improved survival in COVID-19 patients requiring oxygen support.”
In other words, it may well be that the steroid had far more to do with the Henry Ford patients’ survival than the antimalarials.

Another major problem is that the study doesn’t explain why 16.1% of the patients — 409 of the 2,541 — received no treatment. It’s proper to conjecture that the reason is that they were in such bad condition that doctors saw no point in giving them an experimental drug. Remember, the patients weren’t part of a clinical trial — they were being treated based on their condition and the hospital’s COVID protocol.

And on, and on.

Again:

Quote:

The medical community has come to the inescapable conclusion that hydroxychloroquine is not effective at treating Covid-19 infections.

[RolandRat]

@Bubba. Your figures of authority are all nutjobs. Does you latest window licker actually have any evidence to support her claims? If we just have her word, why on earth would you believe someone that has also claimed the government is working on a vaccine to stop people being religious and that cysts are a result of people having sex with demons in their dreams?

[Resume]

Originally Posted by Bubba

Sorry....Yesterday's doctors speaking, and their being censored trumps anything you have said.

Sorry you are gulled so easily. The evidence is overwhelming.

Quote:

The medical community has come to the inescapable conclusion that hydroxychloroquine is not effective at treating Covid-19 infections.

This has been shown over and over again in controlled studies with proper protocols, not anecdotal testimony.

[carlitos]

Originally Posted by RolandRat

@Bubba. Your figures of authority are all nutjobs.

It's pretty typical, and it's how most of the CT people learn to Gish Gallop. Like the graph - an embarrassingly false number, that tells a tale 180 degrees from reality - pneumonia deaths are down, when in fact they are tripling vs. 2019. A doctor says what I want to hear, and it turns out that she's a religious fruitcake. A guy says there are children in the basement in a place with no basement. Someone I believe about some Q thing also says that people are boiling children and eating their bone marrow. A sensible person might say - Hey, these sources that I trust are feeding me BS - I wonder why? A conspiracy theorist will just move onto the next thing.


It's not just a set of beliefs; it's a personality disorder.

[Resume]

Originally Posted by RolandRat

@Bubba. Your figures of authority are all nutjobs. Does you latest window licker actually have any evidence to support her claims? If we just have her word, why on earth would you believe someone that has also claimed the government is working on a vaccine to stop people being religious and that cysts are a result of people having sex with demons in their dreams?

Precisely. One doesn't have to lend credence to crackpot theorists. The proof is in the pudding, not stories, observations and anecdotes. In Dara O'Briain's words, one doesn't have to listen to "Barry, who believes the sky is a carpet painted by god . . ."

[Belz...]

Originally Posted by Bubba

Well of course you would.

This is why it is called an information war, and its 100% politics now.

Which is to say, 0% factual.

Thanks for the admission.

[Belz...]

Originally Posted by Bubba

Sorry....Yesterday's doctors speaking, and their being censored trumps anything you have said.

Sounds like you choose to believe in what's convenient for you.

100% politics indeed.

[Resume]

Originally Posted by Belz...

Which is to say, 0% factual.

Thanks for the admission.

With over 150,000 dead, and maybe twice that many by christmas, it's time to quit playing pattycakes witb crackpots, anti-mask whackjobs, credulous conspiracy flakes, and disinformation specialists. Lives depend on following the science, and it's a shame that our Commander Inept is instead encouraging the worst elements in the war against COVID-19.

[Craig4]

Originally Posted by Bubba

One ad hominem down, hundreds to go.

You use that word a lot. I do not think it means what you think it means.

[Childlike Empress]

The censored "doctors speak" video is on banned.video now (haven't watched it):

https://banned.video/watch?id=5f1fc7a468370e02f29f34cf

[carlitos]

Banned dot Video is Alex Jones' video site. Come for the banned doctors, stay for "carpe donktum" interviewing Laura Loomer.

[Childlike Empress]

Originally Posted by carlitos

Banned dot Video is Alex Jones' video site. Come for the banned doctors, stay for "carpe donktum" interviewing Laura Loomer.

Bla bla ad hominem ad hominem. Your record is broken, "carlitos" (or shall I say ID 0815666789)

The son of the POTUS was sanctioned by twitter for retweeting the video in question.

[Resume]

The lunatic fringe, we know that you're out there . . .

[Resume]

Originally Posted by carlitos

Banned dot Video is Alex Jones' video site. Come for the banned doctors, stay for "carpe donktum" interviewing Laura Loomer.

Bonus crackpot.

[Bubba]

Topic Masters !

Please confirm for us:

In addition to durham's obamagate investigation, AG Barr has John Bash conducting a separate investigation inot 38 obama admin people for unmasking.

False or not?

How long have you known?

When and where did you learn of it?

[Bubba]

Originally Posted by RolandRat

"Immanuel—who is both a pediatrician and religious minister—has made off-the-wall medical claims in the past. She’s alleged that gynecological problems like cysts and endometriosis are the result of people having sex in their dreams with demons and witches. She's also alleged that alien DNA is used in medical treatments and that scientists are working on a vaccine to stop people from being religious. Even though she lobbied the government this week, she has said parts of it are run by “reptilians” and other aliens."

https://www.complex.com/life/2020/07...-twitter-trend

Believe what you will indeed

Dear Typical Topic Master:

So what ? (because that is all you have). Unless you can show how entertaining those beliefs might prevent her from successfully treating patients with HCQz, and not being infected herself.

All you have is calling someone a liar, typical phony skeptic Topic Master empty loser tactic. Try harder.


How about the other doctors?

Did you hear any of them? I doubt it.

[carlitos]

Classic. "All you have" is that this supposedly authoritative doctor who is bucking the medical establishment without evidence believes in ******* REPTILIANS and that some medical conditions are from people HAVING SEX IN DREAMS WITH DEMONS AND WITCHES. Come on, is that it?

I guess if you're gullible enough to believe in "Q" conspiracies, you'll believe pretty much anything.

[Resume]

Assertions without evidence; misrepresentations; credulous acceptance of unevidenced crackpot claims; ignorance of science in favor of fevered dreams . . .

Check.

No frogmarching. (Unless it's Ghizzie's boyfriend)

No gitmo.

No FauciGate.

No GatesGate.

No OBAMAGATE!!

Just assertions.

Q-sheep go bah-bah-bah.

[Bubba]

Originally Posted by carlitos

A guy says there are children in the basement in a place with no basement.

Never investigated, "one of the 50 most influential people in Washington" Comet ping pong pizza owner James Alfantis was recently linked conclusively to a stream of child pornography afficionados, via various social media connections and secret weblinks.

The video disappeared shortly after it was posted on FB & twitter, while Jack Dorsey now allows people "attracted to children" to post their thoughts on Twitter.


Do you guys know how many anti-pedophile actions Trump has taken and referred to, which your sources do not tell you about?

[Resume]

Originally Posted by Bubba

Never . . .

Evidenced, just asserted.

Disgusting, horrid assertions. Typical Q-sheep bleating.

Bah-bah-bah.

[Resume]

Originally Posted by Bubba

Do you guys know how many anti-pedophile actions Trump . . .

Will he arrest himself after Ghizzie talks?

[Bubba]

Originally Posted by carlitos

Classic. "All you have"

believes in ******* REPTILIANS and that some medical conditions are from people HAVING SEX IN DREAMS WITH DEMONS AND WITCHES. Come on, is that it?

I cannot myself, but can you personally prove to the world that all her beliefs are wrong to any degree?

I know you know that I also referred to yesteday's twenty doctors censored by youtube FB Twitter and the Major Media you are basically parroting.

Here is yesterday's censored video of those doctors in front of supreme court.

They made it for distribution, Of course fools scream "LOL they had no press at a press briefing."

It obviously wasnt a press briefing.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/71W1O...LwRyLAAfKI4LZk

[Bubba]

Originally Posted by Childlike Empress

This thing WILL BE your identity as far as Bill is concerned. Who cares about your name?

It's hilarious to watch this constant pseudo-skeptic dance of "isn't true" to "so what". At least for a while. You better hope Bubba doesn't get tired of it like I have years ago.

So true.


They are not real skeptics.

[Bubba]

Originally Posted by carlitos

Banned dot Video is Alex Jones' video site. Come for the banned doctors, stay for "carpe donktum" interviewing Laura Loomer.

Get a grip. Try talking like a skeptic for a change.

Its on bitchute and hosted on other pages.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/71W1O...LwRyLAAfKI4LZk

[Resume]

Crackpot says crackpot things.

Quote:

She alleges alien DNA is currently used in medical treatments, and that scientists are cooking up a vaccine to prevent people from being religious. And, despite appearing in Washington, D.C. to lobby Congress on Monday, she has said that the government is run in part not by humans but by “reptilians” and other aliens.

Demonstrably FOS.

Quote:

In her speech, Immanuel alleges that she has successfully treated hundreds of patients with hydroxychloroquine, a controversial treatment Trump has promoted and says he has taken himself. Studies have failed to find proof that the drug has any benefit in treating COVID-19, and the Food and Drug Administration in June revoked its emergency authorization to use it to treat the deadly virus, saying it hadn’t demonstrated any effect on patients’ mortality prospects.

“Nobody needs to get sick,” Immanuel said. “This virus has a cure.”

No reason to assign crediblity to someone promoting debunked nonsense.

[Childlike Empress]

Watched the video now. That Dr. Emmanuel is a force of nature. I'd like the pseudo-skeptics to come up with actual quotes from her where she states the wacky believes some linked publication says she believes in. But in effect it doesn't matter until someone can prove that she is lying about what she says during that event, namely that she is a practicing doctor who successfully treated 350 COVID-19 patients with severe symptoms with that medicine.

And dull attacks on the video platforms it is now available on after the "good" platforms banned it are so stupid, I actually asked myself (almost seriously) if carlitos was whining about youtube's actions that drive people into the underground where they can also see terrible stuff like whatever it was he mentioned.

The most interesting piece for me was the very tall, very black gentleman who just demanded to have an open discussion with the panic-spreading media cartel talking heads. Because while here in Germany that medicine is not part of the discussion, the situation is the same: The talking heads are refusing to have an open discussion with the many, many competent critics. And we all know that those who refuse to have a discussion are knowing that they are going to lose the argument. Hence the censorship.

Anyway, we here will take it to Berlin coming Saturday with a massive demonstration with an expected half a million participants. Even if it would only be half of that, the event will be crucial to its motto "Ende der Pandemie - Tag der Freiheit" (end of the pandemic - day of liberty).