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Old 26th January 2022, 10:32 AM   #1
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Supreme Court Justice Stephen Breyer to retire

https://news.yahoo.com/breyer-to-ret...171756901.html
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Supreme Court Justice Stephen Breyer will retire, multiple news outlets reported Wednesday.

The exact timing of his retirement was not immediately clear. Both NBC and CNN reported that Breyer will step down at the end of this term.

The 83-year-old is the oldest member of the high court, and a leading liberal justice.
Too bad there's an election just 286 days away. Biden can't possibly nominate someone in that time frame. /s
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Old 26th January 2022, 11:06 AM   #3
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Yeah, I'm glad he's retiring in that Biden can seat a younger, liberal Justice. It would be nice if he could replace a conservative, but sans a death, I don't see any of them stepping down. Trump did what he was elected to do in that regard. The right will have a grip on the SCOTUS for the foreseeable future.
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The nominee will be a violent far left extremist according the Republicans and a Centrist no better than a Republican according to the Democrats.

"But Joe we don't know the nominee yet..."

Doesn't matter, literally one they pick, the argument will be the same.
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Inb4 Dems let Manchin stall it out until after the midterms hoping to campaign on it then lose anyway and McConnell gives the seat to Rudy Giuliani.

They're guaranteed to nominate someone depressingly centrist in a vain attempt to deflect criticism from the right, I'm resigned to that already, but what will actually disappoint me will be the emphasis they'll place on someone who promises more to uphold the veneer of respectable impartiality in the court than to actually do the right thing. Already a third of the justices are rapists or handmaidens, it is a nakedly political tool and will be so for a generation. When they need is a firecracker who will publicly call out and document the bad politically-motivated decisions of the others in no uncertain terms, so that when the ship is eventually righted there will be a guide to which decisions should be precedent and which should be overturned as Heritage Foundation horse crap.

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Is there any doubt that the Senate will refuse any Biden nomination ?
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Is there any doubt that the Senate will refuse any Biden nomination ?
No there's no doubt.

There's a certainty they will.

Best case scenario Machin and/or Sinema block them just for the ego trip of it.
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Old 26th January 2022, 11:14 AM   #8
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Ugh....

Why would they not confirm a Biden Justice? I mean, I get that we hate Manchin and Sinema, but we aren't talking about policy here, and it just takes a simple majority to confirm a justice. Even if all of the GOP bails, I can't imagine those two would do it just out of spite. I know, I know, the nay-say brigade is out in full force on this thread already. I just seriously can't imagine it's a concern. I'll patiently await the doom & gloom patrol to explain to me why I'm wrong, I'm sure there's plenty of reasons.
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Old 26th January 2022, 11:15 AM   #9
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Be interesting to see who Trump choses this time...
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Old 26th January 2022, 11:16 AM   #10
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Too bad there's an election just 286 days away. Biden can't possibly nominate someone in that time frame. /s
Fox News has already stolen your joke.
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Jim Crow Joe and Who? have actually been on board with confirming federal court appointees. Of course, a SCOTUS seat is a different ball game.
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Ugh....

Why would they not confirm a Biden Justice? I mean, I get that we hate Manchin and Sinema, but we aren't talking about policy here, and it just takes a simple majority to confirm a justice. Even if all of the GOP bails, I can't imagine those two would do it just out of spite. I know, I know, the nay-say brigade is out in full force on this thread already. I just seriously can't imagine it's a concern. I'll patiently await the doom & gloom patrol to explain to me why I'm wrong, I'm sure there's plenty of reasons.
They want to be in the headlines.
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Old 26th January 2022, 11:26 AM   #13
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Originally Posted by I Am The Scum View Post
They want to be in the headlines.
They will be, and they are, every single day. As just mentioned, they've had no issues getting federal seats filled this whole time, and there's no reason the Dems would hold off.

At some point one of the Debby Downers will say something to the effect of, "I'm not saying it's impossible to confirm a judge. Just that I don't think they will because of *insert Debby Downer reasoning here*" ass covering so when it happens without any hiccups at all, they can resort back to it. I get it, it makes people feel better...or something. Maybe I don't get it.
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Is there any doubt that the Senate will refuse any Biden nomination ?
My impression is that they've already killed the filibuster for SC justice appointments.

It's just Machin and Simena to worry about, but I think they'll fall in line in this.
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The best part will be seeing what kind of dirt they dig up on the new nominee. Real or imagined.
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To get the inevitable ball rolling.

Ketanji Brown Jackson. DC Circuit Court Judge. Worked closely with Breyer in the past, which will aid transition. Harvard Law Degree. Only 51. Black woman which is good optics. And she's already dealt with cases involving Trump, so she won't be out intimidated by that. And she has history as a Public Defender instead of a Prosecutor, which is a nice change of pace.
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Originally Posted by JoeMorgue View Post
To get the inevitable ball rolling.

Ketanji Brown Jackson. DC Circuit Court Judge. Worked closely with Breyer in the past, which will aid transition. Harvard Law Degree. Only 51. Black woman which is good optics. And she's already dealt with cases involving Trump, so she won't be out intimidated by that. And she has history as a Public Defender instead of a Prosecutor, which is a nice change of pace.
If this was the same woman who was recently confirmed to be a DC Circuit Court Judge, then that's who the nominee will be, 99.999% sure.

From what I understand Biden all but said it when he nominated her for the DC gig. That court is just a holding spot for her to move up. I have absolutely no doubts she'll be nominated, and confirmed to the court.
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If this was the same woman who was recently confirmed to be a DC Circuit Court Judge, then that's who the nominee will be, 99.999% sure.
Yep, she's the one. And yeah already the chatter is already mostly around her.
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That's the one.
Ok, I'm **** when it comes to names. I'm hoping the Dems get it done quickly. No reason it can't be done by middle of Feb if they wanted to move on it. Now we just need Thomas to retire.
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No there's no doubt.

There's a certainty they will.

Best case scenario Machin and/or Sinema block them just for the ego trip of it.
What better way to demonstrate their bipartisan credentials than by working with the GOP in this ?
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Ok, I'm **** when it comes to names. I'm hoping the Dems get it done quickly. No reason it can't be done by middle of Feb if they wanted to move on it. Now we just need Thomas to retire.
Thomas will die on the bench. You'd have better change with Roberts, and not a good chance there.
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What better way to demonstrate their bipartisan credentials than by working with the GOP in this ?
The sad part is I think they actually believe that's what they are doing, at least some of the time.
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If this was the same woman who was recently confirmed to be a DC Circuit Court Judge, then that's who the nominee will be, 99.999% sure.

From what I understand Biden all but said it when he nominated her for the DC gig. That court is just a holding spot for her to move up. I have absolutely no doubts she'll be nominated, and confirmed to the court.
If she has less than a year on the appeals court, isn't that an argument she is unqualified for the supreme court?
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If she has less than a year on the appeals court, isn't that an argument she is unqualified for the supreme court?
No, serving on the DC court wasn't her first experience as a judge. Look up her qualifications instead of JAQ'ing the thread around. Once you find them come back and explain why you think she's unqualified.
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No, serving on the DC court wasn't her first experience as a judge. Look up her qualifications instead of JAQ'ing the thread around. Once you find them come back and explain why you think she's unqualified.
Insufficient appellate court experience
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Insufficient appellate court experience
Even if there are legitimate objections, it won't matter. And being a black female will no doubt provide some leverage in the matter. It's perfect for the Dems and their platform of virtue. More about her:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ketanji_Brown_Jackson
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I'm still confused as to how "Chief Justice" works and why it's this weird side-thing instead of just being the longest service Justice or some other criteria.
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Insufficient appellate court experience
Great, I don't care.
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Great, I don't care.
There are literally 10 judges more experienced/qualified than her on the same court.
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Originally Posted by Warp12 View Post
Even if there are legitimate objections, it won't matter. And being a black female will no doubt provide some leverage in the matter. It's perfect for the Dems and their platform of virtue. More about her:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ketanji_Brown_Jackson
Unsurprisingly absent are any actual legitimate objections. You then insult her by implying she's just some "diversity hire".

How about instead of this racist dismissal of her you actually come up with a reason why she's not qualified? An actual bona fide reason as to why she doesn't deserve to sit on the SCOTUS. You'll also need to compare her to the experience of the other justices when they got nominated. Take your time.
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There are literally 10 judges more experienced/qualified than her on the same court.
I don't care.
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That's why I say nominate her. That way we already know what the Republicans will complain about.
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. You'll also need to compare her to the experience of the other justices when they got nominated. Take your time.
That makes no sense. I have to compare the requirements to a group that I think was poorly vetted for the position?
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That's why I say nominate her. That way we already know what the Republicans will complain about.
The funny thing is that Justice Clarence Thomas:

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Thomas grew up in Savannah, Georgia, and was educated at the College of the Holy Cross and Yale Law School. He was appointed an assistant attorney general in Missouri in 1974, and later entered private practice there. In 1979, he became a legislative assistant to United States Senator John Danforth, and in 1981 he was appointed Assistant Secretary for Civil Rights at the U.S. Department of Education. In 1982, President Ronald Reagan appointed Thomas Chairman of the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC).

In 1990, President George H. W. Bush nominated Thomas to the United States Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit. He served in that role for 16 months before filling Marshall's seat on the Supreme Court.
...was literally never a judge before getting appointed to the same court that Justice Jackson is currently serving, served there for 16 months, and then was nominated to the SCOTUS.
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I don't care.
Good for your I'm still going to talk about how she is unqualified....like nearly every one of Biden's cabinet nominees.
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That makes no sense. I have to compare the requirements to a group that I think was poorly vetted for the position?
You don't have to do anything since a) I didn't ask you to and b) your conclusions generally make no sense and don't interest me.

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Good for your I'm still going to talk about how she is unqualified....like nearly every one of Biden's cabinet nominees.
Knock yourself out, I'm done talking with you about it.
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You don't have to do anything since a) I didn't ask you to and b) your conclusions generally make no sense and don't interest me.



Knock yourself out, I'm done talking with you about it.
As I was saying, we could probably generate a list of nearly 100 judges more qualified for the position.
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The funny thing is that Justice Clarence Thomas:

...was literally never a judge before getting appointed to the same court that Justice Jackson is currently serving, served there for 16 months, and then was nominated to the SCOTUS.
Yes but we can't point out the fact that anyone is just hypocritically not mentioning that our the Mods will smack our pee-pees for being mean. So don't say it. ​Wouldn't want to get in trouble.

Being hilariously hypocritical and nobody even mentioning is a human right on this board.
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Insufficient appellate court experience
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Great, I don't care.
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Unsurprisingly absent are any actual legitimate objections. You then insult her by implying she's just some "diversity hire".

How about instead of this racist dismissal of her you actually come up with a reason why she's not qualified? An actual bona fide reason as to why she doesn't deserve to sit on the SCOTUS. You'll also need to compare her to the experience of the other justices when they got nominated. Take your time.
Did I say she was unqualified? I said if there are legitimate objections, it won't matter. You have already demonstrated this idea by your immediate dismissal of Bob's comment on her experience:

I think it is fair to say that being a black woman is a win for the Dems. I believe Joe already mentioned the "good optics". Dems clearly love their virtue-signaling, after all. It is a major part of their platform.
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Oh no you misunderstood. The "good optics" was it making the right people mad.
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