Bad Effects of Allopathic Medicines?

Homeo Man

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I daily see many patients which mostly come from allopathic background. This is a case, which I am going to share with my fellow members.

She is 35 years old woman, unmarried.

She reports the following story.

“I was suffering with sneezing and coryza. I reported my case to allopathic doctor. They treated me for three months without having improvement. During treatment, I also faced blood oozing from my nostrils. That was the bad effect of “WARM” allopathic medicines. Doctors said, don’t worry, you will be perfectly all right. Just carry on with these NEW allopathic medicines, which are “researched products”.

My condition gone worse, they said, polyps have been developed in the nostrils. They referred me to ENT surgeon. Surgeon put me on allopathic drugs for one month more. A stage comes, when I face great difficulty in my respiration. My nose got blocked. I was unable to sleep.

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Edited by Darat: 
Image edited to link. The image may be disturbing to some Members since it features a very disfigured lady.


Doctor decided to operate my nostrils. Surgeon was FRCS from UK. He had 25 years of experience. I spent my whole money on my treatment. He operated, operation was not successful.

He again put me on medicines. After three months, he decided again, I should undergone another operation. I had no choice. He operated but failed to achieve good result. Due to severe infection, my nose become dumble shape. Doctors said, I think, you must consult another professor doctor who recently came from USA and teahing in medical college. You report your case to that doctor.

USA doctor examined my nose and said, BIBI (woman) you are under great risk of developing cancer. I said, How? He said, due to bad effects of allopathic medicines, your nose cells are showing some kind of degenerations.

If you need your life then I have to remove your nose. I said, any other choice. He said, I have no option left. He finally removed my nose in order to save my life.”

Does allopathic drugs cause side effects?

Is this the case of side effects of allopathic medicine or bad diagnosis or poor management?

My question is, is this the bad effect of allopathy or it was a new disease or progress of the old / existing disease.

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she is now begger. She has no money to get treatment. She cannot move to her residence which is located in another city. She is under my treatment.
 
Why have you included what looks like a very crudely photoshopped picture in your almost certainly fictitious account ?
 
Well it's a bit hard to comment without know what she was actually treated with, and what complications have arisen.
If she was developing cancerous growths in her nose then what other course of treatment would you have recommended?

And if she is a patient of yours, why did you photograph her sitting in the street? Wouldn't it have been kinder to photogaph her in the surgery?

And would she really appreciate being made into your avatar on an internet message forum?

I think it is fairly obvious what kind of point you are trying to make, but this is bordering on breaking forum rules - posting unpleasant pictures solely in order to criticise allpopathic medicine.

ETA: It is also very hard to believe an internationally renowned surgeon would leave an operation looking like that (I don't know if that is photoshopped otr not - it might well not be). And how did she afford to pay what would have been colossal fees in the first place?

Oh, one more thing Homeo - could you ask your patient what the names of the UK and US surgeons were please? Thank you.
 
Homeo Man said:
I daily see many patients which mostly come from allopathic background.
What do you mean by the word "allopathic?" Do you mean a genuinely allopathic (i.e. based on the idea of balancing "humours") system such as ayurveda or TCM, or are you using the word as a derogatory term for proper medical treatment.

Your use of the expression
“WARM” allopathic medicines
suggests that the earlier treatment may well have been some sort of "humour-balancing" system, as this sort of characterisation of treatments is used in those systems but not in Western medicine.
 
Maybe for ease of reference and clarity we should simply describe 'Western' or 'Modern' Medicine as 'Real medicine' and then call the alternatives whatever we like.
 
Is this the best you can do, Homeo Man?

In the absence of any evidence or scientific basis for Homeopathy, all you can do is provide disfigured faces to drag 'allopathy' through the mud?

So you forget the millions of people with meningitis and pneumonia and life-threatening cellulitis who have been cured using antibiotics, or the millions of mothers who are alive today because anti-hemorrhagic drugs prevented them from bleeding to death on the labor table? How about the bloodclots evacuated from sub-dural spaces or the tension pneumothoraces drained? Gone are the accomplishments of Landsteiner and Koch, Pasteur and Ross, Nobel Prize winners who have each revolutionized the way medicine is done.

All that is required to demolish all of that is a wise homeopath, who posts a disturbing picture of a woman's damaged face and asks us skeptics a question that, though ungrammatical, shakes us to our very core: "Does allopathic drugs cause side effects?"

Thank you Homeo Man. You have opened our eyes to the reality of the matter. You have taught us that the best system of medicine is the one that has NO side-effects whatsoever. Homeopathy has no side-effects because it simply has NO effects at all. The fact that it cannot cure ANY illness is of course irrelevant to the matter.

Long live homeopathy!
 
Homeo Man said:
Doctor decided to operate my nostrils. Surgeon was FRCS from UK. He had 25 years of experience.

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Doctors said, I think, you must consult another professor doctor who recently came from USA and teahing in medical college. You report your case to that doctor.
Once again, in case you missed my request, could you provide the names of these Doctors/Surgeons please?
 
Homeo Man said:
I daily see many patients which mostly come from allopathic background. This is a case, which I am going to share with my fellow members.
Fine, now that you have seen this patient, tell us: How is she doing now? The picture you posted of your patient is from November 2004. I'm sure she has greatly improved by now, and you can take a picture of her in your hospital, instead of a street snapshot like a journalist would do.
 
Vikram said:
Is this the best you can do, Homeo Man?

In the absence of any evidence or scientific basis for Homeopathy, all you can do is provide disfigured faces to drag 'allopathy' through the mud?

So you forget the millions of people with meningitis and pneumonia and life-threatening cellulitis who have been cured using antibiotics, or the millions of mothers who are alive today because anti-hemorrhagic drugs prevented them from bleeding to death on the labor table? How about the bloodclots evacuated from sub-dural spaces or the tension pneumothoraces drained? Gone are the accomplishments of Landsteiner and Koch, Pasteur and Ross, Nobel Prize winners who have each revolutionized the way medicine is done.

All that is required to demolish all of that is a wise homeopath, who posts a disturbing picture of a woman's damaged face and asks us skeptics a question that, though ungrammatical, shakes us to our very core: "Does allopathic drugs cause side effects?"

Thank you Homeo Man. You have opened our eyes to the reality of the matter. You have taught us that the best system of medicine is the one that has NO side-effects whatsoever. Homeopathy has no side-effects because it simply has NO effects at all. The fact that it cannot cure ANY illness is of course irrelevant to the matter.

Long live homeopathy!
You're playing a dangeous game here. These clowns are dishonest enough to quote people out of context and claim that they support homeopathy even when it's obvious that they don't. And I'm not sure that they know the meaning of the word "irony" either.

Edited to add:
That's by no means the only word they claim not to know the meaning of:
Originally posted by Non-Sense Homeopath
"Dishonest" What does this mean?
 
Ok, perhaps I'm biased, but the lady got in for a cold and got out like that? isn't it a bit far fetched? :rolleyes:
Maybe homeo man could provide some more details. What exactly she has been treated for? I suppose it wasn't just a cold, right? What medicines or treatment had she?
What are you doing for her at the moment?

Is the chance to get a straight answer to any of these question greater than 10<sup>-24</sup>?
 
Funny, that. My cousin's husband had nasal polyps. He had a series of operations, and the last one managed to cure them completely. He looks, and has always looked, perfectly normal.

He also developed colon cancer - people with nasal polyps have an increased risk of this. He had an operation, 7 years ago, and again he was completely cured.

And he has never been near a homoepath.

Rolfe.
 
In response to your thread title, KUMAR, the answer is a resounding "NO".

And I'll bet you a real hit telling these horror stories to the children as bed-time tales too.
 
Homeo Man,

Why on earth should we believe your implausible claim? After you and your colleagues have already admitted attempting to play some childish game which involves wasting the time of everyone here on this forum?

I think there's about as much chance of your fairy tale being accurate as there is of finding a molecule of mother tincture in your magic water. But, given that, however astronomically unlikely, this at least means there's a possibility that you're not just a lying liar, I'm just wondering if you got that poor woman's permission to paste her picture all over the internet as part of your trolling activities? If so, I wonder if you could corroborate this in some way?

But most of all, I'd like you to answer Ashles' request:

provide the names of the Western doctors and surgeons you mentioned.

Thankyou.
 
Maybe one of the human-type medics here could hazard a guess as to what disease the poor lady in the picture is actually suffering from? Leprosy? The sad thing is that leprosy is entirely treatable and manageable, but people in poorer communities lack the resources to be able to handle the protocols.

I would hazard a guess that Homeo Man has never even seen this lady, and merely swiped the picture from somewhere and made up a string of lies to accompany it.

Hey, MAS collective, can homoeopathy cure leprosy (Hansen's disease)? Care to provide some evidence?

Rolfe.
 
Next Wonder of Natural/ancient/alternative system>>

Have you heard about "Baba Ramdev" in India? Within in short period of abot 3/4 year, it is said that about 250 million people all over the world are practicing simple "Pranayam-yoga" breathing excercises with some diet control & Ayurvedic herbal medicines as adviced by him. Most of them got astonishing benefits & even non-curable diseases are cured. Arteries blockages, high Tg, high BP, diabetes. kidney problems. obesity & other diseases are said to be easily cured within a very short time by these simple excercises. Many doctors, govenment big officers, big & small people are taking his treatments and said to be much benefitting.

http://divyayoga.com/press.htm

250 miliion with daily increase--Is it not bit next wonder of the world as all these(may be much more) can't be illitrate or gullible? Camps, TV channels, cassetes & CDs, books etc. are some mode of this spread, nothing much controvesy as yet.

http://divyayoga.com
 
Re: Next Wonder of Natural/ancient/alternative system>>

Kumar said:
Have you heard about "Baba Ramdev" in India? Within in short period of abot 3/4 year, it is said that about 250 million people all over the world are practicing simple "Pranayam-yoga" breathing excecises with some diet control & Ayurvedic herbal medicines as adviced by him. Most of them got astonishing benefits & even non-curable diseases are cured. Arteries blockages, high Tg, high BP, diabetes. obesity & other diseases are said to be easily cured by these simple excercises. Many doctors, govenment big officers, big & small people are taking his treatments ans said to me much benefitting. 250 miliion with daily increase--Is it not bit next wonder of the world as all these(may be much more) can't be illitrate or gullible? Camps, TV channels, cassetes & CDs, books etc. are some mode of this spread, nothing much controvesy as yet.

http://divyayoga.com
Kumar, you are the absolute pinnacle of gullibility.
 
On a whim I decided to visit the homeopathy forums mentioned in Homeo Man's sig.

A very quiet place.

I noticed an area entitled
Research Light
"For those wishing to discuss the scientific approach to homeopathy"


Topics - 0
Posts - 0

What a surprise.

In another area there is a request to enter details of every case anyone has ever cured or observed.
So far there are 2 posts, and neither of them mentions a cured case.

Ironically they are discussing diaorrhea. Basically they're talking sh...

Oh you know how this gag ends.
 
Re: Next Wonder of Natural/ancient/alternative system>>

Kumar said:
Have you heard about "Baba Ramdev" in India? Within in short period of abot 3/4 year, it is said that about 250 million people all over the world are practicing simple "Pranayam-yoga" breathing excercises with some diet control & Ayurvedic herbal medicines as adviced by him.
Excellent. Well no doubt we will soon suddenly see a massive improvement in India's appalling levels of healthcare, infant mortality and life expectancy figures.

Incidentally, why are so many people turning to Baba Ramdev? Is homeopathy not working out for them?

Or is this alternative alternative medicine?
 
Re: Next Wonder of Natural/ancient/alternative system>>

Kumar said:
Have you heard about "Baba Ramdev" in India? Within in short period of abot 3/4 year, it is said that about 250 million people all over the world are practicing simple "Pranayam-yoga" breathing excercises with some diet control & Ayurvedic herbal medicines as adviced by him.
India (where Pranayam-yoga was invented by Baba Ramdev):
Life expectancy at birth m/f (years): 60.0/63.0
Adult mortality m/f (per 1000): 283/213

United Kingdom (where probably no-one practises Pranayam-yoga):
Life expectancy at birth m/f (years): 76.0/81.0
Adult mortality m/f (per 1000): 103/64

Moral #1: don't practice Pranayam-yoga
Moral #2: spend the money you were going to spend on Pranayam-yoga "Camps, TV channels, cassetes & CDs, books etc." on food, shelter & proper healthcare
Moral #3: make Baba Ramdev donate his presumably vast profits to developing a proper health service in India
Moral #4: shut up
 

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