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Old 14th June 2005, 07:40 AM   #1
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The PROPHET YAHWEH, Maker of UFO's

Prepare yourselves...

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Dear Sir,
Here is a link to my press release that I sent out that will give you a little information on my ability to call down UFOs and Spaceships.

http://www.prweb.com/releases/2005/5/prweb243327.htm

Also, I have attached a Windows Media Video of the KTNV television news segments on how I made history by being the first man to call down UFOs for a mainstream television station to film. Please consider my claims in the press release.

And, if some kind of a spaceship appears on my signal, and sits over Las Vegas for about a day and a half, for television news to broadcast to the world, before July 15, 2005, then consider the following.

The successful demonstration of my supernatural power, before the eyes of the world, far exceeds all your requirements, and tests of performance, to qualify for your million dollar prize.
Because of this, if you are true to your claims and offer, after it happens, please consider me as the recipient of the million dollars.

When you see the spaceship, while here, or over television news, it will be proof that I deserve to be the "honorary" recipient of your million dollar prize.

I can not download your application because the power that works through me is to high for that.

Also, I can not sign my name to any agreement whereby I am to use my abilities for monetary gains or rather to summon whereby money will be given to me if it happens.

I hope you understand that.

However, it is nothing wrong if you decide that what I do deserves the money and you grant it to me even though you really don't have to.

There is a difference between those two points that deserves a distinction.

I know that because I did not fill out your papers and agree to your terms and sign my name to it, you have the right to deny me the million dollars.

But, if you decide to give it to me, I do not want it for myself.
I don't want a single penny to come to me.

I would like for it to be donated to the charity of my choice, publicly, in a news conference before the world's media.

I would like to hear from you, but if I don't I will understand.

If I don't not hear from you, I will consider that you have chosen not to communicate with me.

If you would like to see these sightings appear with your own eyes, as I summon before local television news, email or call me so we can talk about it.

I hope you will open a line of communications with me. I would not bother you afterwards unless you wanted to communicate with me.

If you start communicating with me, and until then, I bid you farewell.

Sincerely,
Prophet Yahweh
Seer of Yahweh
http://www.pyah.tv


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Sir,

My name is Kramer. I handle all matters pertaining to the JREF Paranormal Challenge. If you wish to win the million dollar prize by demonstrating your claim, you must first submit a duly executed JREF Paranormal Challenge Application. Please send it to my attention for fastest processing. Please do NOT send any more links or paperwork. They are of no interest to us.

All that interests us is a demonstration of your claim.

I can tell you in advance that Randi is anxious to accept your claim and arrange for testing at your earliest convenience.

-Kramer, JREF Paranormal Claims Dept.


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To: Kramer
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 10:58 AM
Subject: Re: Me Being An Honorary Recipient Of Your Million Dollars

Hi,

Thank you for contacting me back so promotely.

I once tried to summon for money before Michael Jackson's farther and casino executives of Las Vegas. But, a sighting did not show.

I heard not to summon again for money, but now that I think about it, it was for personal gain.

After reading your letter, I was sadden because I felt that I would be violating what I heard if I entered into an agreement to summon money with you.

And, almost immediately after readin it, the voice I hear that calls itself YAHWEH said "IT IS NOT YOUR MONEY IF YOU ARE DONATING IT TO THE MASSES."

Immediately upon hearing this, I knew that I can do what you ask.

I will download the papers today Friday, June 10, 2005 and start filling it out as you require.

I will have them sent to you by tomorrow or no later than this coming Monday depending on how much you want me to put in your application.

Please let the people at JREF Paranormal Challenge know that all other applicants fit within the realm of human capabilities: telekenesis, telepathy, clairvoyance, clairsentience, levitations, etc.

Anyone can awaken and develop those skills that are lying dormant in all of us.

But, what I do is outside the realm of human capability. The ability to do what I do in not in all of us and can not be developed to the level that YAHWEH has blessed me to be on. What I do is a paranormal gift that is exclusively my own, but only on the level that I perform them.

It is the decision of the most high and wonderful YAHWEH that no one on earth will be able to do what I do on the level that He blesses me to do it with the success rate that I do it.

But, many people can levitate, use mind control, remote view. Etc.
I want all of you at JREF Paranormal Challenge to know that I look forward to staning next to you all in a press conference before the world's news donating that million dollar prize to the most unique housing and feeding operation in America.

The likes of it exists no where.

The outpouring of the wave of sightings will be seen and filmed by you and the spaceship will descend before the July 15, 2005 deadline before your very eyes.

I am ready to start my summonings for you as soon as you can figure out how you are going to cover me and have arrange for one your representatives to come to Las Vegas to be with me.

I am going to stop summoning on July 15, 2005.

I hope that you all can spend all of the remaining time with me if the UFOs that precede the spaceship decending, start revealing themselves as prove that you should stay.

Sincerely,
Prophet Yahweh
Seer of Yahweh


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Sir,

In your email, you say "Please tell the people at the Challenge..." -

As previously stated, I handle all matters Challenge-related. I am the person you will be dealing with here. There is no need to refer to anyone else. You are now in direct contact with the person you need to be in contact with.

READ THE CHALLENGE RULES before you fill out the application, sir. Follow the closely and your application will be processed upon receipt. Ignoring the rules will only delay the process.

Once again and most importantly, PLEASE DO NOT BURDEN US WITH THEORIES, HYPOTHESIS, LINKS or ANECDOTAL evidence.

We require only the following information from you (along with your application):

1- WHAT IS YOUR CLAIM? (Please answer this question in ONE SENTENCE)

2- HOW DO YOU PROPOSE TO DEMONSTRATE IT? (please answer this question in ONE BRIEF PARAGRAPH).

We are interested ONLY in a demonstration. If you succeed in demonstrating your claim, THEN we will listen to everything you have to say. Until then, please, simply send us the notarized application (along with your claim letter), and then tell us WHEN you will summon the spaceship over Las Vegas. We'll be there.

-Kramer, JREF Paranormal Claims Dept.

p.s. Please be aware that you must use your REAL NAME when signing the application. No pseudonyms will be accepted.


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Subject: Re: Me Being An Honorary Recipient Of Your Million Dollars

Thank you for responding back and help me understand.

I have sent my application to day and you should get it tomorrow or no latter than Monday.

Oh, by the way, another sighting was filmed today.

Is it alright to send those we film to you as a Windows Media Video attachment for your viewing.

Maybe it will give you a better understanding of what is going on.
If you don't want to, I understand.

No problem.

Sincerly,
Prophet Yahweh
Seer of Yahweh


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Sir,

We have received your Challenge application, and contrary to the rules (and contrary to my specific instructions to you), you did not use your legal name. We need your REAL name, sir - the name you use on your tax returns. If you insist that this IS your real name, please fax us a copy of your driver's license for verification.

Please send a new application with a properly notarized signature. There is no need to send a new claim letter. The one you sent will remain on file here. Once we receive your new application, we can then proceed.

-Kramer, JREF Paranormal Claims Dept.


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What's next, I wonder?
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Old 14th June 2005, 08:24 AM   #2
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A Confirmation?

Subject: Re: Me Being An Honorary Recipient Of Your Million Dollars

Hi,

On the contrary, my legal name is Prophet Yahweh.

I changed it legally in a court of law.

If you want, I can send you the court papers.

Sincerely,
Prophet Yahweh
Seer of Yahweh


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Yes, sir, please DO send us a copy of the Change of Name legal documents.

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Hi,

I will send the court documents today, expect them tomorrow.

Sincerely,

Prophet Yahweh
Seer of Yahweh
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Old 15th June 2005, 10:17 AM   #3
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One Day Later....

I just received certified, stamped copies of his birth certificate (Ramon Watkins), his change-of-name legal papers (Prophet Yahweh) and his Social Security card and Nevada ID bearing his new name.

We must now and from this point forward refer to this applicant by his real and legal name, Prophet Yahweh.
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Old 15th June 2005, 10:58 AM   #4
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Hello Prophet Yahweh,

We are in receipt of the official, stamped change-of-name documents you sent to us, confirming your legal name. We have today sent them back to you, as per your request. Thank you. This expedites matters nicely, and allows us to proceed without delay to the matter at hand.

We are anxious to test your claim. Most often, tests are carried out by JREF associates or third parties, while the JREF itself acts as an impartial observer. We are rarely able to personally attend Challenge tests.

Randi has taken a strong interest in your claim, and he would very much like to be present at the testing. We also feel that if Randi himself was present at the test, we would find it easy to get the attention of many major news and media affiliates in your area. Should you succeed in summoning UFO's at the agreed upon location, you would be the first person in history to pass the Preliminary Test stage of the JREF Paranormal Challenge.

Needless to say, this would be BIG news. A large media contingency should be there, and we feel assured that Randi's presence would draw adequate attention to the event.

Coincidentally, Randi himself will be in Las Vegas during the last weekend of January 2006. Would you be willing to wait until then for the Million Dollars? Keep in mind that this would be a preliminary test, and that the final/formal test could occur the next day, upon which, if you succeed again, you would win the Million Dollar Prize, and the world would be forever changed.

We can at this time confirm a test date of Sunday, January 29th at 3pm. As with your previous agreement with the Las Vegas news affiliate that covered your recent successful demonstration, we would choose the location (in Las Vegas, of course). We would also agree to give you 30 days prior notice of that location.

Do you agree to these preliminary terms, Prophet Yahweh? There is still more to be worked out as regards the test protocol, but we see no real obstacles there. I am confident that a mutually agreeable test will be arrived at shortly.

I look forward to your reply. Peace.
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Old 15th June 2005, 11:46 AM   #5
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Yes, I agree! As long as the skies are clear and the winds calm.

However, what if this thing breaks big before then and gains the world's attention?

What if it is proven beyond a shadow of a doubt before the world via nationwide news broadcasts of large scale proportion?

Well, this is great new regardless.

If Randi comes out here, he is going to be blown away!

Sincerely,

Prophet Yahweh
Seer of Yahweh


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Hello Prophet Yahweh!!!

We are so pleased to hear that you agree to the basic terms we offer you. As regards your concern about weather, we can offer you an alternative date of Wednesday afternoon on January 25 or Thursday morning January 26, in case the weekend weather forcast seems grim. We'll allow for any negative fluctuations in the local weather, and adjust our schedules accordingly.

And, as regards your concern about what happens "if this thing breaks big before then...", well, we'll just have to take that chance. I propose that you keep things quiet until we get there, for maximum media coverage. But it's your choice.

We now need to confirm that you will be summoning an actual Extra-Terrestrial Spaceship, as stated in your Challenge application. You must understand that little white dots in the sky could be easily explained. A Spaceship, however, would make you a very wealthy man, to the tune of One Million Dollars.

So we need to define our terms as specifically as possible now. The whole world will be watching.

-Kramer, JREF Paranormal Claims Dept.


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Oh, thank you very much for your professionalism concerning this matter.

Sincerely,

Prophet Yahweh
Seer of Yahweh


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You are more than welcome, Mr. Prophet Yahweh. Please don't thank me. I'm just doing my job.
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Old 15th June 2005, 12:35 PM   #6
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Prophet Yahweh's PROTOCOL Proposal

I, Prophet Yahweh, have been blessed to discover the lost, ancient art of summoning UFO’s and spaceships on-demand.

There is a difference between UFO’s and spaceships. UFO’s are usually small flying objects: glowing orbs, metallic spheres, satellite-type flying machines, etc.

And, their flight patterns suggest that they are not of this world.

But, spaceships are large futuristic vehicles that are clearly designed to carry passengers, in like you see in the movies.

Since 1979, more than 1,500 UFO’s and/or spaceships have appeared on my signal before witnesses or at unawares.

During this time, I was performing my summons privately with only those close to me as witnesses.

But, starting June 1st until July 15th (45 days) I am going public, for the first time, by demonstrating my ability to call down UFO’s and spaceships, on-demand, for them to film and photograph.

I am in direct telepathic contact with my space being friends.

They have revealed that they will send UFO’s, within a 4 day period of me asking them to appear, on my cue until July 15th.

Also, before the 45 day summoning period has ended, a spaceship will descend and sit in the skies over Las Vegas on my signal.

The spaceship will hover in the sky, not far from Nellis Air Force Base, for about two days.

All Las Vegas will be able to see it, day and night, before it goes back up into space.

Because of my abilities, I agree to meet with the official representatives of the James Randi Educational Foundation and call down various sightings of UFO’s, on my request for them to appear, so that their cameras can film them.

THE CONDITIONS OF MY SUMMONINGS:

The conditions of my summonings are simple and clear.

1. I summon only on calm clear days, because winds will have too much debris in the sky and sometimes mimic sightings of UFO’s.

2. There must not be too many clouds in the sky that would adversely affect the appearance of a sighting.

3. I have secured the rights to a large piece of property that is now the world’s first official summoning site, in modern human history, that is dedicated to summoning sightings. I will conduct my summonings only at my summoning site.

4. If the sighting does not show within 5 minutes, give or take a little more, I will be the first to label it a failed summons.

5. The atmosphere is to be humble to the event, and not a lot of unnecessary chatter.

6. No smoking or anything else that goes against the overall scheme of the body is to be present.

7. No one is to be under the influence of any mind altering substance, and all people are to be sober.

8. No one is to try to take away the attention and command of my summonings from me.

9. I am to be given at least 4 chances to summon on 4 different days, a day of each one of the letters of the tetragrammaton.

10. At somepoint within the 4 days, the sightings will start appearing. When it does, that is the signal to all involved that the outpouring of the wave of sightings has started, and will not end until July 15 based on the conditions contained herein.

11. Any violation of these conditions could possibly result in a sighting not appearing.

12. I want to let my associates on the Internet know about the developments, and mention that I am being monitored and tested by the James Randi Educational Foundation, and to talk about it on any radio talk shows.

13. I want to be able to post all sightings that appear, and are filmed by my cameras to be posted to the Internet immediately after they appear.

14. When I summon, it is usually immediately donated to the Public Domain upon being filmed.

15. What James Randi Educational Foundation films with its cameras belongs to them, but what I film with my cameras belongs to the world, because of their Public Domain, Royalty-Free status.

16. If James Randi Educational Foundation is not able to film a sighting, for some reason, I will immediately give them a digital copy of the sighting as soon as possible.

17. All money I receive is to be made out to and immediately donated to the non-profit tax-exempt corporation, or charity that I choose for it to be given to. The details of this I am not quite sure of, and will be decided upon later.

18. JREF must agree to television stations and other media being present for the documentation of my summonings which will take what happens to the world and make my abilities far more verifiable and indisputable to public scrutiny.

All these conditions are flexible, and I am willing to negotiate an agreement concerning them.

Sincerely,
Prophet Yahweh
Seer of Yahweh



The above protocol was typed neatly, but the following words were added at the bottom, hand-written:

Oh, even if, for some reason a spaceship does not appear and UFO's do appear on my signal, I wish to remain eligible based on UFO's appearing alone. - PY
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Old 15th June 2005, 01:00 PM   #7
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Is this really happening?

I was just about to compose a lengthy email responding to the specifics of Prophet Yahweh's Protocol Proposal when this came in, negating the need for it:

Hello,

And, that you very much for contacting me back so promptly.

This is good.

I personally believe that the weather will be perfect at that time since it will be coming from YAHWEH.

We will just monitor the weekly forecast but I will be ready any one of those days.

I like how things are turning out.

I heard to tell you that it will be two spaceships sitting side by side at that time in the skies over Las Vegas, and I want to bet that millions on it and I want you to specify it in the agreement, and if it does not happen, then I loose.

Remember not one but two actual spacecraft sitting side by sider over Las Vegas.

Make that the condition. It will happen.

You see, spaceships appearing on my cue in the skies over Las Vegas has happened before, and Las Vegas is not the only city it has happened in.

We will talk as this thing progresses and adjust things here and there to make it happen.

You will know that what I am saying is going to happen when you see the spaceship that is going to appear before my current 45 day summoning period is over, appear in the news.

At that time, you will know that when you come out here, it will not be in vain.

What you all are engaging in will prove to be the most stunning event in modern human history and will answer the question of if we are alone in the universe or not.

It is going to happen!

Just watch what happens before July 15, 2005.

All I ask is that you all set things up for the million dollars to be make out to the charity of my choice and not to me personally.

Sincerely,
Prophet Yahweh
Seer of Yahweh


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Dear Mr. Prophet Yahweh,

We agree fully to the conditions you set forth as stipulated in this email.

We will do as you instruct us to do with the Million Dollars. It says so in the Challenge rules. You are entirely free to do anything you like with the Million Dollars. There is no need to tell us what you will do with it, either. We do not want you to feel influenced in any way. Free Will, as they say.

We look forward to meeting you in Las Vegas, in January 2006.
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Old 17th June 2005, 10:45 AM   #8
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Well, contact me whenever you feel like it.

Sincerely,

PY


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OK, Prophet Yahweh. So far, it's great to be doing business with you. Let's work hard to make sure that everything remains "on course".
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Old 17th June 2005, 11:31 AM   #9
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Here we go...

Hi Kramer,

Yesterday, I got a call about you all having posted me in your Logged Applicants" area.

I did not know it. But, I am glad that you did. I have not told anyone about this.

However, there are teams of people who do nothing but:

go everywhere I have been and try to sabotage what I am trying to do -

getting me terminated from any more television and radio coverage -

contacting and harassing my doctors -

harassing and intimidating reporters who cover me so they won't cover me any more, etc.

These are the same people who:

sabotaged my website -

sabotaged my bank account -

made terrorist threats against my life and everyone who is associated with me.

These people have launched an all out smear campaign against and have:

stolen my personality on line -

set up websites and groups in my name -

acting like they are me in those groups -

created fake and insulting videos about me on the Internet -

taken things I say or teach and using them out of context to create mass hatred for me -

and forge complete and total lies against me, especially those that blaspheme and say things that would call for my death.

I am letting you know that I believe that your site will be contacted time and time again with people who will try to get you all to not accept my challenge so that I would have no right to the million dollars. This will be their greatest fear.

Beware Of My Enemies Contacting You!

They just want the pleasure to know that they were successful in getting you to reject me.

Please don't let any one destroy the opportunity you have given me.

Since the rumors have started going around the Internet so very fast about this, I must announce my side of this to my group to neutralize the distortions that are circulating with the lies I've heard from others about it.

I did not want to say anything about it because I knew what my enemies will do.

Now I must announce my side of it to defend the opportunity I have going on with you.

I will announce it only this once.

Other than that, I will try not to mention it until right before the time when I meant with whoever your verifiers are.

Sincerely,
Prophet Yahweh
Seer of Yahweh


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Dear Prophet Yahweh,

Fear NOT, sir. There is nothing anyone can do to force the JREF to withdraw our acceptance of your claim.

We are morally bound to see your claim tested, and we have in our recent emails with you agreed in principle to the terms of the test. Nothing can stop us. SCIENCE MARCHES ON. We fear NOTHING and NO ONE.

Your claim is secure. Ignore these people who would see you harmed. They will have no affect on the JREF or the JREF Paranormal Challenge. Trust me. You have nothing to be concerned about.
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Old 4th October 2005, 10:40 AM   #10
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A Reminder

Greetings Prophet Yahweh,

It is I, Kramer, from the JREF, writing to you today in order to follow up on our agreement regarding the testing of your paranormal claim.

Our trip to Las Vegas is now drawing near, and your claim is very much in our thoughts. Are you still prepared to see your claim tested during the final week of January 2006?

I look forward to your reply.
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Old 4th October 2005, 10:42 AM   #11
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An "Automatic Email Reply" from The Prophet Yahweh

I am out on the road with my "50 State UFO Summoning Tour."

I am traveling to all 50 American states. It will take me about a year to complete the tour.To find out more go to:

www.prophetyahweh.com

...Sincerely Yours In YAHWEH's Holy Name, Prophet Yahweh
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Old 4th October 2005, 10:44 AM   #12
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I wonder if the Prophet will contact us when he hits Florida...
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Old 4th October 2005, 02:38 PM   #13
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The Prophet Responds!!!

Hi Kramer. Yes, I am very much ready to be tested in the final week of January!! Don't think for one moment that I am having second thoughts. Just for the record, the state of Nevada is very strict about filming outside of private land. Filming in city parks are also strictly monitored by the city of Las Angeles. I think I mentioned that I summon only within major population areas or in the midst of cities in broad open daylight as close to 12 noon as possible. If you want to avoid having to purchase permits from the state of Nevada and the city of Las Vegas, I have a very large piece of property that I have full rights to. You are welcome to use this property for your putting me to the test. Even if you don't want to, and you have some other plans for the location you want to use, all I can say is: Let's do this! Sincerely... Prophet Yahweh, Master UFO Caller... the end.

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OK, sir. We'll see you in Las Vegas at the end of January, and we'll certainly be in touch by December to iron out the final details.

Happily, there isn't much to iron out. You'll summon the UFO's, and we'll watch. See you there.
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Old 5th October 2005, 11:21 AM   #14
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I look forward to it. Take care Kramer... Prophet Yahweh... the end.
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Old 14th October 2005, 08:13 AM   #15
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An Inquiry

Hello Prophet Yahweh,

Good day to you, sir.

I have seen your recent online press releases, and I am overcome with concern over the new restrictions placed on your UFO summonings. Do these restrictions appy to your JREF Challenge application, as well?

Let me put it another way: Are you now going to require the JREF to procure a team of observers comprised solely of Black Israelites whose ancestors were slaves?

Allow me to simplify the question even further: Is the January 2006 JREF Paranormal Challenge test we mutually agreed to (set to take place in Las Vegas) still ON?
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Old 14th October 2005, 09:18 AM   #16
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A Response!!!

IN THE BLESSED AND HOLY NAME OF YAHWEH

Dear Kramer,

Yes, my January summonings test is still on. Prepare to give up a million dollars!

Two space craft are going to show up on my signal, and I will use the money to feed, house, and cloth people in ways that has never been done before.
As for my public summonings, they are restricted because of the laws of YAHWEH that I am implementing on who can come before Him and who can not. But, what I will be doing with you all is not a public event of my 50 state summoning tour. It's a private event for a different purpose even though, hopefully, the media will be there covering it.

However, I really am not summoning for the media, as I have stopped doing.
I will be summoning for the JREF Challenge, and in the process, the media may or may not cover it.

I will be ready, and at that time, the most holy and wonderful YAHWEH will use me to bring glory to His name.

As I said above, be prepared to give up one million dollars.

Sincerely,
Prophet Yahweh
Master UFO Caller


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Dear Prophet Yahweh,

This morning I woke up and said to myself, "Thank God It's Friday."

After receiving this email from you, I frankly wish the week would never end.

You have made my day, sir. And my entire week, for that matter!

I assure you that we are ready and anxious make you a millionaire. We'll get the million dollars ready, you get your accountant ready. He'll have a lot of work on his hands, come January, if you pass the JREF Challenge.

They say that "...what happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas."

Not THIS time, eh?!!!

Just between you and I, though, do you think the world is really ready for it?
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Old 12th December 2005, 12:20 PM   #17
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CONFIRMATION of the JREC Challenge test at TAM4 !!!

IN THE BLESSED AND HOLY NAME OF YAHWEH

Dear Kramer,

How are you doing?

Fine I hope.

Well, it's December, and we have about a month and a half before I meet with you all to see if YAHWEH will send two of His space craft for the media to film.

As for me, I am extremely confident.

I feel that this is going to be my crowning moment after making history as the first man, and a so-called black man at that, to call down a UFO for mainstream television cameras to film!

I am hearing so much from the voice that calls itself YAHWEH.

I am seeing spaceships appearing for some type of summoning event and for my own television and Internet broadcasts.

Whenever I see visions so powerful as these, and so often, sometimes several times a day, nothing is going to stop it from happening except if I start sinning against YAHWEH.

This I will never do.

Let the record reflect that this coming January or February, when we meet together, with the media, it will be a world history making event!

Let there be no doubt about it.

Is Randi still coming?

I hope both of you all are not backing out of this.

However, YAHWEH is preparing to put His fear in your hearts concerning your money.

The closer you get to meeting with me, the more and more you shall fear what the most holy and wonderful YAHWEH is doing through me.

Just pay attention to the the spaceship that is preparing to appear over downtown Los Angeles before we meet.

It will be an astounding event.

Then, you will know that you will be coming to Las Vegas to give me your money, in YAHWEH's name, so I can donate it towards: housing, feeding, and clothing those less fortunate than myself.

I am going to start talking about my planned meeting with the Randi Organization in all my newsletters to my thousands of subscribers.

Also, I am going to start promoting me going for your million dollar challenge in a number of other ways.

Your million dollars belongs to YAHWEH through me!

And, if it be His will, and I think it is, I will certainly have it, and be a million dollar richer in the short time it takes me to donate it to the charity of my choice.

In Your Million Dollar Advance To Me From YAHWEH,

PROPHET YAHWEH
Seer of Yahweh
Master UFO Caller
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GREETINGS PROPHET YAHWEH!!!

Of course Randi is coming to Las Veags!!! Nothing can stop him!!! We await your demonstration with enormous anticipation.

I had previously advised you regarding the dates we would be in Las Vegas several months ago, when we last corresponded. I know you are a very busy man, so perhaps you have forgotten that we are only in Las Vegas January 26-29, 2006.

Our schedule of events is finally coming together, so we are now able to tell you that we have reserved time to observe your demonstration on Sunday afternoon January 29, beginning promptly at 3pm. We will all be leaving Las Vegas that evening, so we are not flexible regarding the time of the demonstration. Should your demonstration be successful, however, we will certainly postpone our planned departure for that evening, and join you (and the media, or course) in celebration of this great event.

There is only one matter still left to be determined: Where in Las Vegas do you propose to offer your demonstration? Once we have confirmed the date/time and exact location of the test, Randi will sign the Challenge application you submitted, and I will return it to you.

I look forward to your reply, and I look forward to seeing your SpaceShip cast its enormous shadow over Las Vegas at the appointed time.

Onward & Upward!!!

-Kramer, JREF Paranormal Claims Dept.
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Old 13th December 2005, 08:32 AM   #18
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IN THE BLESSED AND HOLY NAME OF YAHWEH

Dear Kramer,

I forgot to give you the exact address of the park.

Here it is:

Doolittle Community Center
1940 N. J St.
Las Vegas, NV 89106

The park is located in the back of the Doolittle Community Center which is next to the library.

There is plenty of parking behind and on the side of the park.

The park is large and gives us a wide few of the sky.

It's perfect for the summoning event.

My people, and I will be there before you get there, and you won't be there long at all.

I will make my summons according to the original agreement which gives me only a few minutes to produce it or call it a failed summons.

I am not talking about UFO probes appearing.

I am talking about two actual spaceships appearing up in the earth's atmosphere that will be viewable to the naked eye.

I can't say how large they will be or how close to the ground they will come or how high up they will remain.

All I can say is that you will agree that they were real spaceships and not some hoax.

It will be clear that it is no way possible to hoax these ships!

I understand the situation you and Randi will be in when you get here.

I believe that the circumstances will be perfect for summoning at that time.

As for where I want to summon, I would like to do it on the exact same spot, in the exact same park (Doolittle Park, on the base ball field) where Las Vegas, KTNV ABC TV-13 filmed me calling down the UFO.

But, this time, two spaceships are going to appear.

No UFOs will be present.

Only spaceships!

Now, I have one concern: security.

I will provide the armed security for the event: several armed guards will be present to protect every one present in the event negative personalities show up.

My concern is this.

Do you have to make the location and time where the event available to the general public?

I know of a lot of debunkers who will try to come sabotage the event.

Also, negative personalities from within the UFO community and without trying to cause problems.

But, if you must, no problem.

The armed security will have to suffice.

I look forward to the answer to my questions above.

Sincerely,

Prophet Yahweh
Seer of Yahweh
Master UFO Caller

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Dear Prophet Yahweh,

In answer to your first question, we (The JREF) do not "make" the demonstration open to the public. You have chosen a public park. We have no control whatsoever over who enters the park, and we will not condone or take part in any attempts by your or your staff to do so.

More importantly, though, is your sudden and frankly quite shocking statement about "armed security". We have been corresponding for almost one year now, and we had agreed upon a precisely defined test protocol long ago. No mention of armed security was ever made by you. We find this new addition to the agreed upon conditions of your test to be wholly unnecessary, and highly alarming.

The JREF cannot be involved in any Challenge test at which firearms of any kind are present. I deeply regret to have to say this, but if you insist on having armed security present at the test location, the test will be immediately cancelled. This point is not negotiable.

If you wish to proceed with the Challenge, you must adhere to the agreed upon protocol. Any further mention of firearms or armed security will result in the immediate rejection of your application.

Please advise us as to your intentions regarding this matter at your earliest convenience.

-Kramer, JREF

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Application Rejected, Test Cancelled, File Closed

Based upon this;

http://www.surfingtheapocalypse.net/...mes;read=78988

...in conjunction with his most recent correspondence with us, we are closing the file on the Prophet Yahweh and cancelling the test at TAM4.

Further details (for those of you whom, like myself, don't habitually google) can be found here;

http://rigorousintuition.blogspot.co...-prophets.html

And I think we've seen THIS before:

http://www.virtuallystrange.net/ufo/.../m03-009.shtml

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Dear Prophet Yahweh,

Based upon this morning's request by you for armed security at the JREF Challenge test, Randi and I have decided to cancel the test without further discussion.

We wish you the very best.

-Kramer, JREF
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Old 13th December 2005, 12:32 PM   #20
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Dear Kramer,

All you had to say was the it will not be open to the public and armed security would not be necessary.

I would have said:

"Ok great. Good, then we won't need them because not of the people who hate me and who have threatened my life would no before hand where we would meet and would not be able to be there."

As for your following comments:

"More importantly, though, is your sudden and frankly quite shocking statement about "armed security". We have been corresponding for almost one year now, and we had agreed upon a precisely defined test protocol long ago. No mention of armed security was ever made by you. We find this new addition to the agreed upon conditions of your test to be wholly unnecessary, and highly alarming."

I was not offering a new condition.

It was not a condition at all!

I was only considering the possibility of utilizing armed security guards in the event it was a public event and several hundred or several thousand people showed up.

The armed security would have been a psychological deterrent to crazy people doing anything to sabotage the event or hurt anyone, and they would have been in the background.

And, if any people came to the event wanting to hury any one, they would have protected them.

In my younger days, I use to be an organizer of public events via the media, and I know how the unexpected can occur and negative things can happen especially if you are not prepared for it.

I was under the impression that you all were going to have the media there and it would be broadcast publicly.

Remember how you told me that Randi would have a lot of the media present.

I did not mind the media broadcasting the event publicly, but I was concerned about you and them making the exact location and time public via the media.

This being done in Las Vegas, one of the UFO capitals of the world, would could have caused a massive turn out of people from as far away as California and Arizona, etc.

I know of people who were willing to fly in to Las Vegas from other countries.

You make it look like I was adding a condition when I was not!

I was only mentioning that if you are going to make the media event public, via the media, like you had me thinking, then I could have armed security available.

I was only considering your own safety and the safety of other and wanted to know if you all thought it was neccessary or not.

And, based on what you all said, I would have agreed.

You all over reacted and became alarmed over sound public event options because I thought many, many people would be present.

I was only offering armed security as an option to see what you all thought about it and not trying to add last minute conditions.

This all is simple a misunderstanding and nothing to be alarmed about.

Sincerely,

Prophet Yahweh
Seer of Yahweh
Master UFO Caller
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Old 13th December 2005, 12:38 PM   #21
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Dear Prophet Yahweh,

But it WILL be open to the public. We cannot have a public park closed. The park is open. The public is welcome. We will not enact any form of segregation for the purpose of this demonstration. Surely you can understand that we have no ability to close a public park.

We are willing to withdraw the decision we made this morning if you are able to state for the record that you understand that the park is a public place, and if you can assure us that no firearms will be present. If you can provide us with that assurance, we can reverse our decision and proceed toward testing.

I don't believe that we over-reacted, Propeht Yahweh. I believe that we reacted appropriately, given the circumstances. Any further talk of firearms will inspire the same reaction. If we find any reason to believe or even suspect that firearms are present at the test site, we will cancel the test immediately.

Have we now succeeded in clearing up our misunderstanding, sir? I do hope so. I was looking forward to the test, as were the JREF TAM4 conference attendees. The park will be filled with people waiting for you to summon.

I hope that we can now proceed with a better understanding of what the actual test (and the conditions surrounding it) will be.

-Kramer, JREF
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Old 13th December 2005, 12:42 PM   #22
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IN THE BLESSED AND HOLY NAME OF YAHWEH

Dear Kramer,

I am not saddened or surprised that you all would flee at the first sign of something you did not like.

It reminds me of when you first replied back to me about how that you could have Randi and your testers present in Las Vegas within a couple of weeks or however you put it to me, only to find out that you all would not show up until 6 months later.

Other people wrote you about how that you initially said you would test me in a couple of weeks and that they felt it was strange that once I had agreed to the challenge, you all changed the event to about six months later.

And, for you all to take me being willing to have armed security present at the event, if it the exact location is made public, because of all the people who would show up, and cancelling the event, does not surprise me one bit.

You knew that my being willing to have armed security there was only based on it being a public event where possibly thousands of people could show up.

You knew that all you had to do was tell me that it would not be a public event and as a result, armed security would have been a moot issue.

You knew that all you had to do was tell me that it would not be public and that armed security would not be neccessary and I would say great!

But, you all seized upon that opportunity to cancel the event.

People had been emailing me saying that the event would not happen!

They said that when time came for it to happen, you all would figure out some reason for it not to happend just like when it was suppose to happen the last time.

You all put it off over six months after telling me it could happen in a couple of weeks.

No problem Kramer.

You and Randi have proven all them right - twice!

But, I never believed it would happen after you got my hopes up and then postponing my hopes for six months.

I never believed in you and Kramer after that.

I hoped I was wrong and that the event would go on, but I was right.

Thanks for leading me on for almost a year by dangling your carrot before me only to pull it out of reach twice.

Sincerely,

Prophet Yahweh
Seer of Yahweh
Master UFO Caller
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Old 13th December 2005, 01:10 PM   #23
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We, Also, are NOT SADDENED

Dear Prophet Yahweh,

"Flee", sir?

If we "fled", it was at the first talk of "armed security", and rightly so. Any reasonable person would have been alarmed, given the circumstances.

It is YOU who are effecting a grand escape here, by attaching the first of what we expect to have been a long series of unreasonable demands that would all culminate in a single result; the rejection of your claim and the cancellation of the JREF Challenge preliminary test.

This is the standard technique of all those who make claims that they know they are unable to provide evidence for. It's business as usual for us. We have no more time to waste on questions about firearms, or the closing of a public park, or whatever you had prepared for us next.

And we are not saddened or surprised at all that you would behave as you have in this email. All applicants do so when things begin to turn sour for them. You are no different.

You are deluded, sir, as evidenced by your utter misrepresentation of the actual facts of our correspondence, which I will not endeavor to clarify for you, as we know that you will continue to see it your way, and publicize it as such. We will waste no more time on this matter.

Thank you for your interest in the JREF Paranormal Challenge. Your file has been closed. This is our final communication with you.

We sincerely wish you the very best.

-Kramer, JREF
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Old 14th December 2005, 10:39 AM   #24
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Dear Kramer,

The fact is that your insinuation of me being "unreasonable" at having armed guards at a media promoted public event, that could possibly have hundreds or thousands of people, is not "deluded" at all.

In fact, it is common to see armed security at public events with so many people being free to attend.

I am a very reasonable person, and I have experience in promoting public events in the past, and I am not talking about at my summonings.

Consider some of the things you said in your communications to me:

Any reasonable person would have been alarmed, given the circumstances.

Any reasonable person would have known that it is wisdom to at least consider the possibility of having armed security at a public event that they were hosting with the media's help!

To be alarmed at the idea of armed security at a media promoted public event and not consider this happens often at public events is to not understand the reality of the event being considered.

It is "deluded" to not consider the armed security guard option.

Any reasonable person would have considered liability issues if anything unexpected happened.

If any thing happened, both your organization and myself would be liable.

And, we both could be sued, and lose in court, because, in the judge's eyes, we should have been prudent enough to have had armed security.

I know of incidents whereby people lost some of their assets because they did not have armed security where they brought the public.

It seems that you don't understand the liability issues related to public events in city parks.

Some cities and general liability insurance companies will require armed security guards at certain events.

But, it appears that you don't understand these type of things, but I do.

Finally, any reasonable person would have, after considering that possibility, would have simply said: "I don't think we need to bring in armed security. We won't to go forward with the event with out them."

I would have said: "Ok. No problem. I was just wanted to pass it by you to see what you think."

It is YOU who are effecting a grand escape here, by attaching the first of what we expect to have been a long series of unreasonable demands that would all culminate in a single result; the rejection of your claim and the cancellation of the JREF Challenge preliminary test.

You are assuming here Kramer. In fact, you are the one sounding deluded when you say you expected me to come up with a "long series of unreasonable demands" when I never gave the first demand.

All I did was to mention having armed guards, and your mind created the delusion that I was going to present a long list of unreasonable demands based on only one consideration I presented! Wow!

This is the standard technique of all those who make claims that they know they are unable to provide evidence for.

But, this does not relate to me!

I have been successful in calling down UFO for years!

And, I was the first man who successfully called down UFOs for a television station and what I do will continue.

So, I have consistently proven my abilities long before I ever heard of you all or you all heard of me.

Now, you are really the one sounding deluded!

We have no more time to waste on questions about firearms, or the closing of a public park, or whetever you had prepared for us next.

What are you talking about?

Once again, you are the one who is sounding deluded Kramer.

I never once said anything about closing of a public park or suggested it!

I only mentioned having armed security present as a psychological deterent to something going wrong, and if something went wrong, they would be in a better position to stop it.

On top of that, I was considering off duty police officers to be the armed security.

And, as for whatever I had prepared for you next, man, your job is really adversely affecting you.

The only thing I was considering to say next was: "Ok. No problem. I agree not to have any armed security since you all are taking it so seriously."

Kramer, man, it appears that you have been into so conflicts with the idiots who are playing games with you until you have lost your tact to negotiate with a candidate, especially one like me.

And we are not saddened or surprised at all that you would behave as you have in this email. All applicants do so when things begin to turn sour for them. You are no different.

Man, you have lost your objectivity here and are starting to view all your candidates as being the same to such a degree that it has affected your tact in dealing appropriately in negotiations.

I am not like all applicants in that I was blessed by the most holy and wonderful YAHWEH to make world news in what I do before I ever heard of your organization.

You are deluded, sir, as evidenced by your utter misrepresentation of the actual facts of our correspondence, which I will not endeavor to clarify for you, as we know that you will continue to see it your way, and publicize it as such. We will waste no more time on this matter.

I am not deluded, you are.

You are the one who sent me two back to back over reactive emails and did not even give me the chance to explain or seek clarification of what I was talking about before telling me, in the second one:

Based upon this morning's request by you for armed security at the JREF Challenge test, Randi and I have decided to cancel the test without further discussion.

We wish you the very best.


And, in your communications below and the other emails after it, you did not include it in the reply history. Was it so it could not be seen?

Regardless, I have reinstated it.

And, after telling me the event was cancelled "without further discussion," you sent me another email discussing more about it so that the even could go forward.

Also, when you say:

... we know that you will continue to see it your way.

Once again, I changed my mind and no longer saw it my way and was preparing to email you about it.

And, you call me deluded?

You went on to say:

... and publicize it as such.

Kramer, after you emailed me saything that the event was cancelled, and there would be no more discussion.

I said to myself, I will not let people know about this because it will cast a bad light on Kramer and Randi.

I will keep it to myself and not publicize it.

So, once again, you are wrong and the one deluded.

By your own words, you see all the applicants as taking the same course of action, having the same intentions, and that you know what they are planning.

But, in my case you are absolutely and totally wrong again as you have been consistently wrong when it comes to me.

Your file has been closed. This is our final communication with you.

No problem.

You said that before: "Randi and I have decided to cancel the test without further discussion", and you, in the same hour, started discussing the issue with me again.

And, you call me deluded when your are the one sounding deluded.

My name was no longer on the list of applicants anyway. So in my eyes and the eyes of the person who contact me telling that it was removed, my file has been closed before now.

Kramer, listen to me closely.

When you think that a person may be misinterpreting things, try being more tactful in the way you deal with them.

You don't have to come against them so strongly and close their cases without any further discussions without giving them a chance to explain.

Use more tactful in the way you deal with them.

I am use to people doing me like you have done me.

I can take it.

I have demonstrated my gift and my abilities have been consistently proven, and they will continue to be proven.

Don't let those who are playing games with you Kramer get to you.

There are people who are real and not like all the others you've experienced.

I am one of them, and you will certainly consider this in the future when I am revealed to the world by YAHWEH with His spaceships and UFOs.

Use more tact Kramer; use more tact and be the skillful negotiator you should be.

You see, I don't need the randi.org to validate me; I have been validated before by KTNV ABC TV-13 and many witnesses over the years before I ever heard of you.

And, I will continue to be validated with YAHWEH's blessings.

We will waste no more time on this matter.

Well, since you all have twice terminated my case, in a couple of hours, neither will I Kramer, because I have other validations that have been developed and are ripe production.

Sincerely,

Prophet Yahweh
Seer of Yahweh
Master UFO Caller


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Dear Prophet Yahweh,

Thank you for this final communication, and thank you for the good advice.

We continue to wish you the very best.

-Kramer, JREF
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Old 15th December 2005, 12:42 PM   #25
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Dear Kramer,

Thank you very much.

As for me, no one will hear about this; I will keep it to myself.

No hard feelings on my side.

Thanks Kramer, and take care.

Sincerely,

Prophet Yahweh
Seer of Yahweh
Master UFO Caller


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Thank YOU, Prophet Yahweh, and no hard feelings here, either.

Peace.

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