Manmade Megaliths under the Pacific ocean- borderline of Mu

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Here's a really good article on it-
http://www.pureinsight.org/pi/articles/2003/6/30/1678.html
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Vidoes about the Yonaguni Megalith
http://www.wonder-okinawa.jp/024/english/hilight/024_0016.wvx

this next one's pretty cool-
http://www.wonder-okinawa.jp/024/english/hilight/024_0016_1.wvx

Here's a short video showing the similarities between Sout American sites and teh Yonaguni site
http://www.wonder-okinawa.jp/024/english/hilight/024_0022.ram

The islands out in the Pacific could be the outskirts of where some people think the land of Lemuria or Mu once was. Some have also noted that many ancient monuments strangely seem to be built for very large people. I haven't found a whole lot of info on the net about Mu or Lemuria but here are a couple sites so far-
http://www.huttoncommentaries.com/Other/Lemuria/evidence_of_lemuria.htm
http://www.brotherhoodoflife.com/MU.html

I saw on TV that some scientists are saying it could not have been right in the very middle of the pacific, but some ancient accounts about it's location do actually conform to scientific ideas about earth plates etc. It wasn't in the very middle of the ocean but off to one side probably. Possibly along what geologists now call the "superswell" area in the Pacific. Some people also say Mu was even older than Atlantis.
http://www.lightnet.co.uk/informer/civilisations/japan.htm



There are other legends which connect to it, such as the Indian legend of Lumania. They may have constructed the moon itsel
http://www.nii.net/~obie/historygold.htm


All the researchers I have read about or seen on TV who examined it, stated that it is definite that at least parts of it are manmade. And it's massive

http://www.morien-institute.org/yonaguni.html
http://www.morien-institute.org/yonaguni_schoch1.html
http://www.morien-institute.org/imk12.html#mizostairs
http://www.xpeditionsmagazine.com/magazine/articles/japan/japan.html
http://www.toriitraining.com/yonaguni.htm
http://www.morien-institute.org/interview1_MK.html

http://www.grahamhancock.com/gallery/underwater/yonaguni.htm

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Big enough to swim through
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"It was obviously made, and used, in the distant past when the area was last above sea-level, "

Carved giant turtle image
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Sphinx type carving?
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" Around Yonaguni-jima there are a large number of stones, both above and below sea-level, which show clear evidence of 'wedge-marks' having been cut into the surfaces ready for splitting. Near the 'Tategami-iwa', there is a square-shaped megalith measuring more than 30 feet, and this is called 'Sekihi-iwa'."

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similar to some above water sites
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http://www.cyberspaceorbit.com/phikent/japan/japan2.html

http://www.grahamhancock.com/gallery/underwater/yonaguni2.htm

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Facing east, and the rising sun
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The main Ziguart at the Yonaguni site was discovered in 1986, but is wasn't studied so much at first because many people weren't really sure if it was man made or what it was. However, some of the things like the Giant head and stadium are much more recent finds. They are still finding new things around that general vicinity of the ocean

http://www.morien-institute.org/imk5.html
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http://www.morien-institute.org/imk9.html
" The images below are of the mysterious 'gusuku cave' that extends inward, and slopes downward, under the gusuku structure. The two images showing the entrance are taken from the outside of the cave looking towards the semi-circular wall feature (left), and (right) from the inside of the cave looking out. It is clear for everyone to see that the 'entrance' has been 'artificially shaped', and this is not something that it is possible to imagine anyone would undertake to do to an 'underwater' cave ..."
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"It was obviously made, and used, in the distant past when the area was last above sea-level, and currently the cave is blocked by an enormous accumulation of soil and sand to a depth of approximately 50 feet ..."
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I saw the program from which these pictures (or at least similar ones) were taken on the National Geographic channel (might give it away right there) and the "scientists" investigating these so-called monoliths gave very little information about them. They mostly just showed pictures and allowed for the viewer to make his case for them.

At any rate, is it not possible for these to be man-made structures that later sunk into the ocean? They are right off the coast of a chain of islands created by volcanos so why isn't it plausible that they could have simply sunk during an eruption that was never recorded. And they were only discovered 20 years ago. Why do people insist on jumping to conclusions? "It's Mu! The other lost continent! Woo!!"


Anyway, I joined this forum a few days ago, and here is my first post. Hello everyone!
 
Welcome to the forum emperorchaos!
FYI the reason other posters are taking Kilik less than seriously is that he makes a habit of starting threads in this fashion - with loads of links and perhaps some pretty pictures. What he finds trouble with is making a clear point and debating it - when others try to engage him he usually just posts more links which he's Googled up. He has been accused of not even reading the links he posts.
You make a couple of good points - just don't expect Kilik to address them.
 
Hey Killik - many of these have been shown to be natural geological features. Nothing amazing about them beyond their geological structure. As for the "Lost Continent of Mu", I'd suggest you review your future spending on hallucinogens - you have already run up quite a bill there!
 
JREF Memebers...and your point is?

Kilik - wibble wibble, hatstand, fish, ftang! *posts more random links*
 
There is a major missing link in history, that modern scholors such as graham hancock have pointed out, a missing prehistoric civilization that is the source of the knowledge and culture of many supposedly independantly develoloped cultures. This is obviously the very bordeline, beginning of Mu
 
Obviously? Why is that obvious? Even assuming these structures are man-made (which is only one of several possible explanations), why assume they are from some mystical civilization? We know of a number of man-made structires that are submerged, for various reasons.

Hans
 
I would suggest that pictures are required for me to make a point.

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Very similar to the above:
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For some reason it always generates a discworld based picture:
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further evidence of sunken ruins:
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Pyramid like structure:
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Haven't checked the links yet, and I'm not sure I ought to at this time. Still, the question remains: Has anyone bothered to check the geology of the area? If there are slip type faults in the area, that might explain why some man made structures are now underwater. (Some. A lot of what you've shown can - and has - resulted from volcanic activity.)

But being a "lost continent," the land of Mu? That is one hell of a leap. Sorry, no sale.
 
A huge amount of land around there was lost at the end of the ice age. Land that would have been much more inhabitble at that time than much of the land that is now inhabited today was back then. I think enough to be a continent
 
Kilik said:
There is a major missing link in history, that modern scholors such as graham hancock have pointed out, a missing prehistoric civilization that is the source of the knowledge and culture of many supposedly independantly develoloped cultures. This is obviously the very bordeline, beginning of Mu
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What knowledge, specifically? Don't give me a link, just lay the problem out as you see it. One paragraph will so.
 
Humans are said to be 200,000 years old.

There isn't much known on civilizations past 12,000 years ago.

What about the other 188,00 years?

That is also the end of the Ice Age. Also the date given by Plato.It correlates well with many traditions which speak of a Great Flood.

Many cultures that are supposed to be unrelated and completely independant, are related.
 
There's no chance that the sunken continents of Atlantis and Mu ever existed. The crust at Pacific and Atlantic oceans is typicall oceanic crust - composed manly by basalts. Continental crust is composed by granitic and granodioritic rocks.

No, there's nothing big as continent that could be hiding there. The surveys are detailed enough to allow any geo to say this.

And there were no tsunami-like flooding linked with the end of the Ice Ages. Sea leves rose slowly enough foe even snails escape. All this is quite well documented in the geological record.

All the claims on Mu and Atlantis, as presented by Killik's linkspam are woo nonsense. They are shattered after a minimal research of the availiable geological data. But some people just resfuse to do so.
 
ANTARCTIC ICE SHEET KEY TO SUDDEN SEA LEVEL RISE IN THE PAST
http://eobglossary.gsfc.nasa.gov/Newsroom/MediaAlerts/2002/200203288330.html
"This event happened near the end of the last Ice Age, a period of de-glaciation that lasted from about 21,000 years ago to 12,000 years ago," Clark said. "The average sea level rise during that period was about eight millimeters per year. But during this meltwater pulse there was an extremely rapid disintegration of an ice sheet and sea levels rose much faster than average."

The amount of sea level rise that occurred during a single year of that period, Clark said, is more than the total sea level rise that has occurred in the past 100 years.
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So there were 3 major "pulses", during the ice age where sea levels rose quite rapidly at the end of the ice age. The reality is that sea levels rose quite rapidly.

10 million square miles at least, were lost to the sea, into the Underworld, at the end of the last ice age. More area than North America and Australia combined. A large area was off Japan and above Australia
 
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Kilik said:
Humans are said to be 200,000 years old.

There isn't much known on civilizations past 12,000 years ago.

What about the other 188,00 years?
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What makes you think humans actually formed civilisations past 12,000 years ago?
 
How much faster, Killik? And how many meters, Killik?

Enough to submerge a continent in one day? Of course not. This IS what the reality is and its NOT as stated in Hancocks' baseless speculations or Cayce's prophecies.

Not to mention that how much land was covered by the trangression is a function of shoreline gradient. Small gradients equal to wider areas covered by the sea. Japan is an isand arc. Its shorelines and shelves are quite steep, thus the covered area was small. Once again, the answer is a plain and simple no.

Stop the data cherry picking.
 
those would have also been the areas with the best climate for inhabtation before the end of the ice age
 
Baseless claim, again.

Ever considered that elevated positions are good for defensive purposes? That inland areas are needed for farming and mining? And that these supposed civilizations seem to have not left any remains inland?

And that there was no fast flood at the end of the ice ages?
And that there is no evidence for continental crust at the bottom of the Atlantic and the Pacific oceans?
 
"Atlantic Shelf
Strange, Straight Tracks At 1 Mile Depth

At a depth of 2000 metres, along the seabed that marks the peak of the ridge on the seamount north of the Azores, the researchers also discovered a puzzling set of straight tracks, resembling burrows roughly 5 cm apart. They confess to having no idea how and by what the tracks were made.

The MAR-ECO study is one component of Census of Marine Life (CoML), a 10-year, $1billion programme of exploration in the Atlantic. More than 110 scientists from 16 different nations are involved in this collaborative effort...."
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And the Underworld-
http://www.grahamhancock.com/underworld/
 
Relevant analysis:
Ashles on 30th August 2005 said:
Kilik: Here is a pile of links. Isn't Edgar Cayce amazing?
Everyone: Those links are nonsense rubbish because [XXX]
Kilik: Well that doesn't matter because here is a load of different links
Everyone: But those are also rubbish because [XXX]
Kilik: Here is a new really long list of links
Everyone: Why don't you actually discuss any of these things yourself?
Kilik: Don't ask questions. Here are many more links
Everyone: This is also all rubbish - but we are losing the incentive to explain why
Kilik: Here are more links. They may not all be correct and may disagree with other links I have posted but that doesn't matter because pretending there were advanced civilisations hundreds of thousands of years ago is exciting for me.
Everyone: You don't even understand any of this do you?
Kilik: Don't ask questions. Here. More links. Isn't there anything there that might be real? Surely somewhere?
Everyone: No
Kilik: But I researched them. I typed 'Pyramids' into Google and linked to everything it came up with.So it must all be true. Look there's a rock that looks like a step.
Everyone: You don't even care that all this has been debunked over and over do you?
Kilik: Look, more links. Some of them are the same as I have previously posted but that doesn't matter.
Everyone: Can't you even try to make one single point and attempt to defend it?
Kilik: Shut up! More links! Look! Accept! Don't question!
Everyone: This is all stupid and doesn't stand up to even light investigation
Kilik: Ah but it does. You don't understand because of your 'programming'
Everyone: Dude, if anyone around here needs rebooting and a serious defrag, it's you.
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Can you prove those holes were dug by Atlanteans or Lemurians?

And I find quite funny that tou say its a straight track but I can see a clear smooth curve...

Better luck next time.
 
LTC8K6 said:
What, no comment on my car shaped underwater rock photo?
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That is a totally natural formation created over millions of years. There are such formations at the bottom of many a lake, pond, rock quarry, and bay.
 
A pre-Ice-Age car! Under water, what's more! What more proof do you need, Kilik...

...that you're a twat.
 
Kilik said:
Maybe then, you could call Lemuria an ice age island
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Sure you could, providing there was evidence of Lemuria's existence, much less its existence during that particular ice age. Since there isn't much in the way of said evidence, I suppose you could still say that, but not seriously.
 
The megalithic monuments at Yonaguni are obviously the edge of that island and continent
 
Roadtoad said:
Haven't checked the links yet, and I'm not sure I ought to at this time. Still, the question remains: Has anyone bothered to check the geology of the area? If there are slip type faults in the area, that might explain why some man made structures are now underwater. (Some. A lot of what you've shown can - and has - resulted from volcanic activity.)

But being a "lost continent," the land of Mu? That is one hell of a leap. Sorry, no sale.
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Actually, the Geology of the area is the key. They showed something on this on the History Channel a couple of years back, they showed how the local rock fractures at weird right angles. Neat looking, but nothing more than an interesting natural phenomenon. Definately not proof of some ancient civilization.
 
everything I saw on the History channel about it, said it is definitely man-made, and man influenced. Dr. Kimura's assessment they said is definitive and autharitative.
 
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