Coral Castle -- Evidence of Magic

rocketdodger

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Ok the title of this thread is just to pull the fiery skeptics in, I admit.

I was just wondering if anybody has legitimate explanations regarding coral castle.

It seems to be a pretty big mystery to me, when you look at all the evidence.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coral_Castle
 
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rocketdodger said:
Ok the title of this thread is just to pull the fiery skeptics in, I admit.

I was just wondering if anybody has legitimate explanations regarding coral castle.

It seems to be a pretty big mystery to me, when you look at all the evidence.
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Link?
 
From the Coral Castle web site:
Since it is documented that no one ever witnessed Ed's labor in building his rock gate park, some say he had supernatural powers. Ed would only say that he knew the secrets used to build the ancient pyramids and if he could learn them, you could too!

Today, you can leisurely tour Coral Castle via our new 30 minute state of the art audio tour. Hear this fascinating story in English, Spanish, French or German, and see for yourself what millions saw on national TV's "That's Incredible", "In Search Of...", and "You Asked For It!" Even rock star Billy Idol wrote his hit song, "Sweet Sixteen" about Ed's lost love.

Now we wonder what exactly was the source of inspiration that drove this man for 28 years to carve a Coral Castle from the ground up using nothing but home made tools from junk parts. Unrequited love? Ancient sciences that defy gravity, or just sheer, raw human determination? The Coral Castle is an everlasting mystery to those who explore it.
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http://www.coralcastle.com/home.asp

There's nothing supernatural about elbow grease.
 
I was hoping to hear from rocketdodger what he thought was mysterious in any way, but I'm guessing he just posted as a joke.
 
Gravy said:
I was hoping to hear from rocketdodger what he thought was mysterious in any way, but I'm guessing he just posted as a joke.
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This was featured, IIRC, on that Leonerd Nimoy narrated show "In Search Of". The show made it seem as if much of what the guy did was not explainable. Something about the slabs of rock being too heavy for him to have moved. Sorry, I don't have much more than that.
 
I don't understand.

Some guy built an ugly-ass building. Unfortunately, that doesn't require supernatural powers.
 
kookbreaker said:
Indeed. Here there are pictures of him moving he coral:

http://www.coralcastle.com/pictures1.asp

I've seen this site before, and they previously had a picture with a Model T Ford on blocks that he used to help lift the blocks.
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Clearly, it's a magic tripod, using ancient wisdom from Egypt and Greece. Duh. How do you think they built pyramids and temples in the old days? Quantum-harmony antigravity devices or A-frames, ropes and hard work? The mystery is how some people find the "hard work"-theory to be the least likely. May I suggest a few years of hard labour in a quarry as a fitting punishment for such disregard for Occam's razor?
 
So it is documented (assuming, of course that the photo is authentic) that he used a tripod, block and tackle. Since that, and an unusual (some would say insane) determination, is all that is needed for one person to build such a structure over a time-span of 28 years, I see no reason to assume any mystery.

Hans
 
Coral Castle Explained

To see a rational explanation of how the "mystery" of Coral Castle can be explained, go to "theforgottentechnology dot com". A retired carpenter who frequently had to move heavy items around construction sites by himself has some fascinating pictures and videos of what ONE man can do just by using his knowledge of how the world works.

A man I work with, a physics instructor no less, introduced me to Coral Castle with words to the effect of, "I don't know how he did it!". A little internet research led me to the above site, and when I showed it to the physics guy he bought the guys video on DVD and now shows it to his class to encourage their skepticism of supernatural claims. Made me feel pretty good, but the hero is really the retired carpenter!
 
for all the others who wanna just clicky-click
http://www.theforgottentechnology.com/

by the way, the site has adverts for his dvd, so i feel slightly dirty for assisting in the posting but i did see a show on discovery or something that covered his techniques and its pretty cool.
 
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I have seen it before, but thanks for the reminder. This guy so totally undermines all the "heavy stones" woo. He shows that all you need to build massive stone structures with enourmous blocks is ropes, pulleys, moderate manpower, and the human brain.

Now bookmarked.

Hans
 
Yeah I seemed to have missed the part where it took him a full 28 years to build it. Even shoving pennies under the slabs to move them wouldn't take that long.

I still buy into that ancient astronaut/telekinesis BS about the pyramids though. Does that make me a sh-- buyer?
 
gfunkusarelius said:
for all the others who wanna just clicky-click
http://www.theforgottentechnology.com/

by the way, the site has adverts for his dvd, so i feel slightly dirty for assisting in the posting but i did see a show on discovery or something that covered his techniques and its pretty cool.
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I think skeptics need to build another site to cover this stuff. There are many techniques he didn't cover, because they'd be restricted to antique materials, that are re-enacted by archaeologists. eg: using carved wood to 'roundify' large blocks.

The site is missing many photos, is difficult to navigate, and looks like crap, from a design point of view.
 
Cypripedium said:
To see a rational explanation of how the "mystery" of Coral Castle can be explained, go to http://www.theforgottentechnology.com/. A retired carpenter who frequently had to move heavy items around construction sites by himself has some fascinating pictures and videos of what ONE man can do just by using his knowledge of how the world works.

A man I work with, a physics instructor no less, introduced me to Coral Castle with words to the effect of, "I don't know how he did it!". A little internet research led me to the above site, and when I showed it to the physics guy he bought the guys video on DVD and now shows it to his class to encourage their skepticism of supernatural claims. Made me feel pretty good, but the hero is really the retired carpenter!
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Oh damn that is so cool. Thank you.

This reminds me of that stupid BS about a bumble bee not being able to fly but because it doesn't now that it can't fly it flys anyway.

Backward thinking: I don't know how it works so it is impossible, also, I don't know how it works so God did it.

Critical thinking: I don't know how it works but it is empirical that it does now we just have to figure out the physics.

A big welcome to Cypripedium. :)

That damn castle has annoyed the hell out of me for years.
 
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rocketdodger said:
I still buy into that ancient astronaut/telekinesis BS about the pyramids though. Does that make me a sh-- buyer?
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Certainly not. The telekinetic ancient astronauts were right when they told us all that the Egyptians did the whole job by themselves using engineering know-how plus lots of time and a large, reliable workforce that had to eat while their farms weren't farmable. Why would telekinetic ancient astronauts lie about that?

J. Arthur Hastur said:
I can lift my Jaguar's engine block by myself with a block and tackle, is that magic?
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That depends. If the block and tackle are American football moves, then yes, it is magic. If they're a system of pulleys then it's just sufficiently advanced technology.
 
Meffy said:
If they're a system of pulleys then it's just sufficiently advanced technology.
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One of my favorite quotes. There is, of course, the little known corrollary: "Technology that is distinguishable from magic isn't sufficiently advanced."
 
Wikipedia said:
Upon hearing this story, Scuffs responded, "I didn't want to marry Edward when I was 16, and I don't want to marry him now." Leedskalnin died a few years later.
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What a wonderful story...
 
The Mad Hatter said:
What a wonderful story...
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I may be a jerk, but I read that and laughed till my sides hurt. That is the ultimate "pwn3d" story.

Man: I love you.
Girl: I don't love you.
Man: I will build a giant stone thing by myself, to show you my love.
(28 years pass)
Man: I am done, now love me!
Girl: Go die in a fire.
Man: **does**

Anyways, that forgotten technology link is one of the cooles things I have ever seen. I only wish that all of the pictures on the site worked. The DVD seems like it would be interesting (and super educational), but alas I don't use PayPal (nor do I want to).
 
Your Welcome, RandFan!

RandFan said:
Oh damn that is so cool. Thank you.

This reminds me of that stupid BS about a bumble bee not being able to fly but because it doesn't now that it can't fly it flys anyway.

Backward thinking: I don't know how it works so it is impossible, also, I don't know how it works so God did it.

Critical thinking: I don't know how it works but it is empirical that it does now we just have to figure out the physics.

A big welcome to Cypripedium. :)

That damn castle has annoyed the hell out of me for years.
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I'm glad you liked it - that guy is totally amazing to my mind. Just went out and started experimenting and finding out what worked to move these things, and didn't just look at all these "mysterious" things and shake his head in woo woo wonder. Also, thank you for the big welcome!
 
opqdan said:
Anyways, that forgotten technology link is one of the cooles things I have ever seen. I only wish that all of the pictures on the site worked. The DVD seems like it would be interesting (and super educational), but alas I don't use PayPal (nor do I want to).
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The guy's forte is not web design for sure, but some of the pictures that appear to be "not working", actually work when you mouse over them. Are those the ones you are referring to?
 
It's magic 'cause the doors can be moved even though they're heavy!
 
Cypripedium said:
The guy's forte is not web design for sure, but some of the pictures that appear to be "not working", actually work when you mouse over them. Are those the ones you are referring to?
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The one's that don't work for me are the mpegs. I was only able to view them by copying the url out of the page source and pasting it in a new browser tab.
 
All of you who think he built the castle without special powers are WRONG. Here's the truth, if you can handle it.

http://www.coralcastlecode.com/id1.html

Additionally, bigfoot may or may not have also helped lift some of the 'medium' sized stones.



WARNING: DO NOT EVER ATTEMPT TO COMBINE THE FORCES OF THE 'CORAL CASTLE CODE' AND THE 'TIME CUBE'. THE RESULTS WOULD NOT ONLY DESTROY EARTH, BUT POSSIBLY THE ENTIRE SOLAR SYSTEM.
 
"VERY IMPORTANT 'Coral Castle Code' is not a hoax or a made up fantasy"

Rule #3: If they have to tell you it's not a scam, it's a scam.

(Rules #1 & 2 being, respectively, "If they say it's not about the money, it's about the money" and "If the salesman says 'Trust me', don't.")
 
tsg said:
"VERY IMPORTANT 'Coral Castle Code' is not a hoax or a made up fantasy"

Rule #3: If they have to tell you it's not a scam, it's a scam.

(Rules #1 & 2 being, respectively, "If they say it's not about the money, it's about the money" and "If the salesman says 'Trust me', don't.")
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So what happens if the salesman says "Don't trust me, this is a scam"?
 
Cypripedium said:
I'm glad you liked it - that guy is totally amazing to my mind. Just went out and started experimenting and finding out what worked to move these things, and didn't just look at all these "mysterious" things and shake his head in woo woo wonder. Also, thank you for the big welcome!
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Cool, I just wish I could learn to slow down and check what I write before I post or at least shortly after I post. Damn that was awful.
 
tsg said:
One of my favorite quotes. There is, of course, the little known corrollary: "Technology that is distinguishable from magic isn't sufficiently advanced."
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Who needs random mission statement generators? That is now my personal mission statement. Thankewverramudge.
 
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