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Old 9th September 2006, 10:13 PM   #1
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Press for truth!

Stop for a moment.

Forget about all you are involved in here. Forget about Dylan Avery, the Jones', Controlled Demolition, your fight against the so called "Truth Movement".

Now watch this video: 9/11 Press for truth

We need an independent international investigation of 9/11. You have to stop mocking the victims. I feel with the people of the united states of america and hope you will take your country back. Thanks and good luck.
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Old 9th September 2006, 10:19 PM   #2
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Thank you so much! I´ve waited so long to see it.
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WE have to stop mocking the victims?
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Old 9th September 2006, 10:32 PM   #5
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Originally Posted by Childlike Empress View Post
Stop for a moment.

Forget about all you are involved in here. Forget about Dylan Avery, the Jones', Controlled Demolition, your fight against the so called "Truth Movement".

Now watch this video: 9/11 Press for truth

We need an independent international investigation of 9/11. You have to stop mocking the victims. I feel with the people of the united states of america and hope you will take your country back. Thanks and good luck.
Yeah, think how much better off we will be with the French telling us what happened.

It was the Jooooooos....
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On what grounds should the USA give up their sovereignty and allow for who exactly to investigate precisely what about 9/11?
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Old 9th September 2006, 10:39 PM   #7
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Hi Oliver, willkommen im Forum und geniesse den Film. Deinem offenen Brief an das Loose Change Forum kann ich nur zustimmen, ebenso Deiner Beobachtung daß einige der "Debunker" sich auf dem selben Niveau bewegen. Schon in Antwort vier wurde ich beschuldigt, die Juden zu verdächtigen, obwohl ich meine antifaschistische Motivation hier wiederholt dargelegt habe. Ich denke, das ist selbst für dieses Forum Rekord.

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Old 9th September 2006, 10:42 PM   #8
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Originally Posted by Childlike Empress View Post
You have to stop mocking the victims.
Prove that contention or retract it.
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Old 9th September 2006, 10:47 PM   #9
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Watch the movie.
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Old 9th September 2006, 11:09 PM   #10
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Originally Posted by Childlike Empress View Post
We need an independent international investigation of 9/11. You have to stop mocking the victims. I feel with the people of the united states of america and hope you will take your country back. Thanks and good luck.

I watched most if this film. Just how many films there are with "9/11" or "truth" in their name? Childlike can't you see how these film are clearly made with an agenda. Mainly to sell DVDs or for Bush bashing purposes. This is not professional journalism it is propaganda and you are falling for it. If you are worried about insulting the victims doesn't making money of the 9/11 tragedy mock the victims? Try to be objective.

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Originally Posted by Childlike Empress View Post
We need an independent international investigation of 9/11.


So it's unacceptable for the US to bury its nose in the affairs of other countries, but it's completely fine for everyone else to get involved in the US's affairs?

Huh?

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Old 9th September 2006, 11:16 PM   #12
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Originally Posted by Gravy View Post
Prove that contention or retract it.
2nd. Give me one example where anyone on this forum that has supported the mainstream accepted explanation has mocked any victim of that day, or retract that statement immediately
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Old 9th September 2006, 11:18 PM   #13
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Oh, I loved the part where Bush said "Ofcourse we are after Saddam Hussein uh ... mm ... I mean Osama Bin Laden"

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Old 9th September 2006, 11:19 PM   #14
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Originally Posted by Rasmus View Post
On what grounds should the USA give up their sovereignty and allow for who exactly to investigate precisely what about 9/11?
I've pointed out many times before that we in Canada lost 25 of our own that day.

That being said, Rasmus is absolutely correct. It was on American soil and America has sole discretion who they choose to allow in to investigate.
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Old 9th September 2006, 11:21 PM   #15
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Originally Posted by Sword_Of_Truth View Post
I've pointed out many times before that we in Canada lost 25 of our own that day.

That being said, Rasmus is absolutely correct. It was on American soil and America has sole discretion who they choose to allow in to investigate.
Were any non-US individuals involved in the investigation? Have any non-US individuals asked to take part, or to do their own; and subsequently been denied? blah, blah, blah

CE, prove your statement about mocking victims, or retract it; or it will be reported as an abusive post.
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Old 9th September 2006, 11:25 PM   #16
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Originally Posted by chacal View Post
I watched most if this film. Just how many films there are with "9/11" or "truth" in their name? Childlike can't you see how these film are clearly made with an agenda. Mainly to sell DVDs or for Bush bashing purposes. This is not professional journalism it is propaganda and you are falling for it. If you are worried about insulting the victims doesn't making money of the 9/11 tragedy mock the victims? Try to be objective.

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I followed the development of this whole mess since the first day and the unanswered questions asked in this film are quite exactly my questions that lead me to be 100% convinced that the official story is bogus.

The people on this forum are falling for deception. They still debunk question asked by con artists. It's sad to see how deep your cognitive dissonance goes.

@"international": You seem to be unable to make it on your own and the world('s population, not the governments) is willing to help.

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Originally Posted by Childlike Empress View Post
Watch the movie.
We "pressed you for truth" about your claim that we have mocked the victims of 9/11. You have provided none. You have made a false accusation, and you should apologize for it.
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Old 9th September 2006, 11:35 PM   #18
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Shove it, Gravy. Watch the first minutes of the movie. You try to defend the official story and your reality tunnel with all you have (and that's a lot if it comes to the most popular "truth movement" questions). But you don't get to the core of it.
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Old 9th September 2006, 11:39 PM   #19
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Originally Posted by Childlike Empress View Post
Now watch this video: 9/11 Press for truth

We need an independent international investigation of 9/11. You have to stop mocking the victims. I feel with the people of the united states of america and hope you will take your country back. Thanks and good luck.

I find this a little ironic. You have never hid your significant dislike of the current US government.

And here you are, accusing people here of mocking victims, while peddling a documentary that uses families of 9/11 victims to push a political agenda that you support.

Sick.

I'm ten minutes into the film. So far I've heard the same boring and fact-less "NORAD Stand Down" argument I have heard repeatedly from CTers.

It's very simple CLE. Please pay attention.

...reading?

...

The moment the 19 hijackers were on board the aircraft the nearly 3000 victims' fates were sealed. There was nothing anyone could do to prevent 9/11 happening at that point.

The mighty USA is NOT invincible, anymore than Battleship Row was. The US got beaten by people who were cleverer and more dedicated. Simple as that.

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Old 9th September 2006, 11:45 PM   #20
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Childlike, I'm going to put this in terms that you will understand.

I find your attitude of moral supremacy, your presumptuousness and your arrogance to be highly neo-conservative.
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Old 9th September 2006, 11:48 PM   #21
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Originally Posted by Sword_Of_Truth View Post
Childlike, I'm going to put this in terms that you will understand.

I find your attitude of moral supremacy, your presumptuousness and your arrogance to be highly neo-conservative.
Don't forget pompous, condescending and insulting.
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Originally Posted by Childlike Empress View Post
Hi Oliver, willkommen im Forum und geniesse den Film. Deinem offenen Brief an das Loose Change Forum kann ich nur zustimmen, ebenso Deiner Beobachtung daß einige der "Debunker" sich auf dem selben Niveau bewegen. Schon in Antwort vier wurde ich beschuldigt, die Juden zu verdächtigen, obwohl ich meine antifaschistische Motivation hier wiederholt dargelegt habe. Ich denke, das ist selbst für dieses Forum Rekord.

Gruß ausm Pott!
Du bist echt Gottes Segen das hier zu posten. :-D
Ich hoffe der Film wird von einem breiten Spektrum
gelsesen und hoffentlich verstanden. Du weißt,
Wahrheit schmerzt manchmal. Etwas was viele
Truth-Seeker im Netz nicht wahrhaben wollen und
ausblenden.

Was mich anbelangt, so kenne ich zwar persönlich
keine jüdischen Mitmenschen, aber ich habe keinerlei
Vorurteile, mal von politischen Vorurteilen gegenüber
der mancher Länder abgesehen.

Ansonten fällt mir nur folgendes zu dem Film ein:

Strike!

Oder um jemanden zu zitieren:
"Off course we´re after Saddam Hussein - i mean ehm Bin Laden"
Was für eine Arschbacke.
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Old 9th September 2006, 11:52 PM   #23
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Originally Posted by Childlike Empress View Post
Stop for a moment.
We need an independent international investigation of 9/11. You have to stop mocking the victims. I feel with the people of the united states of america and hope you will take your country back. Thanks and good luck.
Alright, so what is it that our country needs to be taken back from? Something we might need to know if we're supposed to do that.
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Could we keep this discussion board in English please?

Si ça continue de même j'vais écrire en français bâtard!

So... That said, for the sake of it Childlike, I'll watch the movie.
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Originally Posted by Sword_Of_Truth View Post
Childlike, I'm going to put this in terms that you will understand.

I find your attitude of moral supremacy, your presumptuousness and your arrogance to be highly neo-conservative.
That coming from a mormon sceptic *giggles*

@gummi: You are the prof in pushing an agenda. I take that as constructive criticism (even if i have to overstretch my optimistic view of the human nature).
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Originally Posted by Childlike Empress View Post
mi: You are the prof in pushing an agenda. I take that as constructive criticism (even if i have to overstretch my optimistic view of the human nature).

Indeed? Perhaps, in that case, you can tell me what my "agenda" is?

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@Pardalis: To sum it up - he likes the movie. Oliver, he's right, let's stick to english.
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Shove it, Gravy. Watch the first minutes of the movie. You try to defend the official story and your reality tunnel with all you have (and that's a lot if it comes to the most popular "truth movement" questions). But you don't get to the core of it.
No, Childlike, I won't shove it. You are unable to give an example of any 9/11 myth debunker here who has mocked a victim.

Here's a similar statement: "Childlike Empress is a Holocaust denier"
"Gravy, where's your evidence of that?"
"Watch the movie Shoah."
"Gravy, if you don't have a specific example of Childlike Empress denying the Holocaust, you should retract the accusation."
"Shove it."

So be an adult, not a little baby, and retract the accusation.
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Originally Posted by Childlike Empress View Post
Shove it, Gravy. Watch the first minutes of the movie. You try to defend the official story and your reality tunnel with all you have (and that's a lot if it comes to the most popular "truth movement" questions). But you don't get to the core of it.
The only ones mocking the victims are the conspiracy theorists in the so called "truth" movement, who wouldn't know the truth if it kicked them in the nuts.

See: 9/11 Deniers Speak http://www.lolloosechange.co.nr/
if you need more proof of that.

You're barking up the wrong tree, pal.
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Indeed? Perhaps, in that case, you can tell me what my "agenda" is?

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I give you the first shot. What is my and "Press the truth"'s agenda?
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Originally Posted by gumboot View Post
I find this a little ironic. You have never hid your significant dislike of the current US government.

And here you are, accusing people here of mocking victims, while peddling a documentary that uses families of 9/11 victims to push a political agenda that you support.

Sick.

I'm ten minutes into the film. So far I've heard the same boring and fact-less "NORAD Stand Down" argument I have heard repeatedly from CTers.

It's very simple CLE. Please pay attention.

...reading?

...

The moment the 19 hijackers were on board the aircraft the nearly 3000 victims' fates were sealed. There was nothing anyone could do to prevent 9/11 happening at that point.

The mighty USA is NOT invincible, anymore than Battleship Row was. The US got beaten by people who were cleverer and more dedicated. Simple as that.

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I´m not a political guy at all and i don´t vote either,
but i understand the message of the film in a different
way.

If you´re political human beeing, you might hear what
your political side is:

"Looks like a plot from the opposing party".

The families of the victims supported the movie
- to get the truth out, whatever it is.
And that one is a huge step.

Like the movie said - americas massmedia* tells it´s own,
sponsored story. Not what the rest of the world
learns. Let´s hope that the internet stays free...

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That coming from a mormon sceptic *giggles*
An ad hom based on my religion... that was open minded and tolerant of you.

Would you like to attack my skin color and sexual orientation next?
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Gravy, if you watch the movie this thread is about you will see victims who think that their questions are not adressed since five years. Victims who ensured that the investigation that you admire so much (the 9/11 commission) was made possible in the first place (after 4xx days). After all that happened you buyed to the official version hook line and sinker. You are mocking the victims efforts.
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Originally Posted by Childlike Empress View Post
Gravy, if you watch the movie this thread is about you will see victims who think that their questions are not adressed since five years. Victims who ensured that the investigation that you admire so much (the 9/11 commission) was made possible in the first place (after 4xx days). After all that happened you buyed to the official version hook line and sinker. You are mocking the victims efforts.
Stop denying the Holocaust, Childlike. That's a horrible thing to do.
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Originally Posted by Childlike Empress View Post
I give you the first shot. What is my and "Press the truth"'s agenda?

As I already said, you make no effort to hide the fact that you're rabidly anti-US Government and anti-US mainstream media.

But I am interested in hearing what you think my agenda is...

By the way, up to 20 minutes, we're now into the "no investigation of 9/11" and "investigation into President's blowjob cost more than investigation into 3000 murders" BS. *yawn*

I'm going to take a wild stab and guess that this doco will follow through the commission before revealing that the "Jersey Girls" aren't happy with what the investigation revealed.

Sometimes the truth sucks. There's no government agents to blame for their loved ones' deaths, just a bunch of murderous arabs... oh well...

We'll wait and see if I'm right or not (it's just a wild guess)

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An ad hom based on my religion... that was open minded and tolerant of you.

Would you like to attack my skin color and sexual orientation next?
I don't have problems with mormons and not with sceptics but mormon sceptics are a bit of odd in my opinion.
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Stop denying the Holocaust, Childlike. That's a horrible thing to do.
Did i missed something? No one is denying the holocaust...
Otherwise i would tell him something...
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You are mocking the victims efforts.
Childlike, it seems to me that these widdows' anger and frustrations are being influenced by the CTists. You say we mock their efforts, but I'm 10 minutes into the movie and they are using the same CT rethoric and logical fallacies (how can these buildings collapse this way, there has never been a building collapse due to fire, WTC7, etc), the very same BS the CTists are using, the CTists you yourself are calling conn artists.

I'll continue the movie, but it ain't looking good.
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Old 10th September 2006, 12:17 AM   #39
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Originally Posted by Childlike Empress View Post
I don't have problems with mormons and not with sceptics but mormon sceptics are a bit of odd in my opinion.
I don't have a problem with morons or idiots, but moronic idiots are a bit odd in my opinion.
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Old 10th September 2006, 12:18 AM   #40
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Did i missed something? No one is denying the holocaust...
Otherwise i would tell him something...
Sorry, Oliver, this goes back a while. You'll have to take it up with Childlike. I can't talk any reason into her.
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