Star Wars Beam Weapon and the WTC Bathtub

TruthSeeker1234 · 19th October 2006, 08:21 AM

http://janedoe0911.tripod.com/StarWarsBeam1.html

Drs. Wood and Reynolds complete their thesis in public view. They note that the Kingdome demolition created a 2.3 richter earthquake, and point out that WTC had many times the PE, and should have caused a much larger earthquake than the 2.3, and 2.1 quakes that were actually measured.

The foundation of the WTC (the "bathtub") was not damaged.

This is strong evidence for the near total disintegration of the towers before they hit the ground. They caclulate how much dust should be produced, and present lots of photographic evidence of disintegration.

Also shown are many difficult-to-explain phenomena, such as the toasted cars, and blown out windows.

I eagerly await any "debunking".

Hellbound · 19th October 2006, 08:22 AM

Well, I eagerly await anything to bunk besides a personal opinion and argument from ignorance.

Gravy · 19th October 2006, 08:25 AM

Killtown, 'zat you?

uk_dave · 19th October 2006, 08:26 AM

Originally Posted by TruthSeeker1234

http://janedoe0911.tripod.com/StarWarsBeam1.html

Drs. Wood and Reynolds complete their thesis in public view. They note that the Kingdome demolition created a 2.3 richter earthquake, and point out that WTC had many times the PE, and should have caused a much larger earthquake than the 2.3, and 2.1 quakes that were actually measured.

The foundation of the WTC (the "bathtub") was not damaged.

This is strong evidence for the near total disintegration of the towers before they hit the ground. They caclulate how much dust should be produced, and present lots of photographic evidence of disintegration.

Also shown are many difficult-to-explain phenomena, such as the toasted cars.

I eagerly await any "debunking".

You know, it's pretty bloody impossible for them to hit the ground intact....unless you imagine them being lifted by some incredible lifting ray traction beam thingy and then dropped from a great height.

Still, there is always the possibility that jesus walked amongst the mayans.

Hellbound · 19th October 2006, 08:26 AM

Originally Posted by Gravy

Killtown, 'zat you?

No, Truthseeker's just as nutty, but not (quite) as openly juvenile.

bjb · 19th October 2006, 08:28 AM

So it was a controlled thermite demolition AND a beam weapon attack? And there were no planes and all of the videos were fakes?

ImaginalDisc · 19th October 2006, 08:28 AM

I'll let more knowledgeable and dedicated skeptics tackle the rest of this nonsense, but this one bit I have to comment on.

Originally Posted by TruthSeeker1234

Also shown are many difficult-to-explain phenomena, such as the toasted cars, and blown out windows.

Two flaming 110 storey tall buildings fall and you think fire damaged cars constitute a mystery?

uk_dave · 19th October 2006, 08:29 AM

Is it really true that judy wood spent 6 years in a coma?

Hellbound · 19th October 2006, 08:30 AM

Originally Posted by uk_dave

Is it really true that judy wood spent 6 years in a coma?

And if it isn't, can we make it true now?

[before anyone takes this out of context, it's a freaking joke, people. Lighten up]

Crungy · 19th October 2006, 08:34 AM

Anyone else besides me think that Dr. Wood is one sexy momma?

Isn't Morgan Reynolds a "no planer"?

Dog Town · 19th October 2006, 08:35 AM

Originally Posted by uk_dave

Is it really true that judy wood spent 6 years in a coma?

Yes, and we have no proof she has really come out of it. This is by far the dumbest CT, I've heard yet, well...almost!

Gravy · 19th October 2006, 08:37 AM

Originally Posted by uk_dave

Is it really true that judy wood spent 6 years in a coma?

Why are you writing in the past tense?

kevin · 19th October 2006, 08:40 AM

just some random questions:

Would the geology of the areas impacted affect the richter reading? Is this analyzed at all?

Richter is a peak reading, if it the peak were held longer during the WTC collapse would the same amount of energy be dissipated as a higher peak in a shorter time?

Did they calculate the loss of energy that went into destroying the building instead of the ground? In a CD (i.e. the King Dome) more energy goes into the ground because not as much is needed to destroy the building itself.

FramerDave · 19th October 2006, 08:42 AM

Ok, I really don't have the time or desire to wade through the entire bloody thing. But a few things that immediately jump out at me:

Figure 14 and 15. WTC station and platform before the event, and on 11/23/03. What is this supposed to show? It took a couple years and probably quite a few million dollars to get the stations open again.

Figure 13: WTC Station Platform after the event; this PATH train wasn't crushed. Again, so what?

Figure 22: Warner Bros. Store in the mall under where WTC2 "fell"
That's not a photo of the store, it's a storage room where much of what remained after the collapse is stored. An error at best, deliberately misleading at worst.

Figure 23: Roadrunner survived! See above. And so? Do they really think that every single object was turned to dust?

God, I can't even go further, much less look at the Satr Wars beam crap. My head hurts looking at so much stupid.

Blutarsky · 19th October 2006, 08:53 AM

I love the fact that there is nothing under the subheading of "Conclusions." It speaks volumes...

I noticed the infamous "billiard ball" page was linked to. Was this tripe written by the same person who didn't understand the difference between elastic and inelastic collisions in momentum equations?

Bell · 19th October 2006, 09:00 AM

Originally Posted by Blutarsky

I love the fact that there is nothing under the subheading of "Conclusions." It speaks volumes...

I noticed the infamous "billiard ball" page was linked to. Was this tripe written by the same person who didn't understand the difference between elastic and inelastic collisions in momentum equations?

Well, that's it for me then. I'm not gonna read all this drivel, and thought of only reading the conclusion. Well, appearantly, there is nothing to conclude from all this.

Blutarsky · 19th October 2006, 09:02 AM

If this is the same person who drafted the "billiard ball" website I have no need to read on, just as if someone created a site that purported to have evidence that the Amish were behind 9/11.

Overman · 19th October 2006, 09:03 AM

Star warz beam weapons do not yet exist on that scale.

Debunked.

Augustine · 19th October 2006, 09:05 AM

Dr. Wood's area of expertise is moire interferometry, an optical method of measuring surface strains. She is so far out of her field as to be laughable. Dr. Reynolds is an economist! His ability to speak intelligently or coherently on building collapse and the mechanics involved is on a par with the fellow who set fire to his rabbit cage.

The only event this paper is evidence of is academics straying way WAY out of their lane and appealing to their PhD (in entirely unrelated fields) to lend weight to their mindless blatherings.

Gravy · 19th October 2006, 09:05 AM

Originally Posted by Overman

Star warz beam weapons do not yet exist on that scale.

Despite PNAC getting their "New Pearl Harbor." What's the hold-up?

fuelair · 19th October 2006, 09:06 AM

Originally Posted by bjb

So it was a controlled thermite demolition AND a beam weapon attack? And there were no planes and all of the videos were fakes?

Don't forget the invisible Black helicopters. (NEVER forget the invisible Black helicopters!!!!) (That's how they got Bob - the sub-genius - he forgot!)

fuelair · 19th October 2006, 09:08 AM

Originally Posted by uk_dave

Is it really true that judy wood spent 6 years in a coma?

Is it really true that "judy" got wood for six years while in a comma?

Blutarsky · 19th October 2006, 09:09 AM

Quote:

So it was a controlled thermite demolition AND a beam weapon attack? And there were no planes and all of the videos were fakes?

No. They're eating one another now. She thinks that Jones is just too crazy in asserting Thermite was involved. She says that explosives + the death star were used. Thermite was just too preposterous for her, so she decided that after the gubment was done destroying Alderan, that they needed a new target.

Beleth · 19th October 2006, 09:12 AM

Originally Posted by TruthSeeker1234

This is strong evidence for the near total disintegration of the towers before they hit the ground.

Doesn't the official version of the collapse also describe a situation where the buildings would mostly be rubble by the time they hit the ground?

Loss Leader · 19th October 2006, 09:15 AM

On the plus side, we now have the phasers finished for when we get the Enterprise working. TS1234, how's the work on the tractor beam coming? Also, have you figured out how to sustain a stable warp field?

jujigatami · 19th October 2006, 09:16 AM

Dammit,

All of this is because of me.

When I was there on 9/11 I had one of these with me:

http://www.wickedlasers.com/products...ontent=extreme

That must be what Woods is referring to, right?

chipmunk stew · 19th October 2006, 09:19 AM

Originally Posted by Blutarsky

I love the fact that there is nothing under the subheading of "Conclusions."

Sure there is:

I'm sure there's a hidden message in this image that brings it all together. I'm going to go stare at it for a few hours until I understand what it means.

Gravy · 19th October 2006, 09:19 AM

Originally Posted by jujigatami

http://www.wickedlasers.com/products...ontent=extreme

Love this testimonial on that site:

Quote:

i bought a 125mw laser and was able to burn through a 1-inch thick cotten rope. Then, I lit a match with it; that was the ultimate cool! I recommend spending the extra money and buying this model unless you have small children.

Price of 125mw laser: $499.99. Use the striker on the back of the matchbook, dude!

Blutarsky · 19th October 2006, 09:21 AM

I did them one better. I actually found the blueprint of the dastardly device:

Gravy · 19th October 2006, 09:22 AM

Originally Posted by chipmunk stew

Sure there is:

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g7...w/Image199.jpg

I'm sure there's a hidden message in this image that brings it all together. I'm going to go stare at it for a few hours until I understand what it means.

Check the "second plane at Shanksville thread." TC and Killtown think the company that makes Wrangler Jeans was in on it.

jujigatami · 19th October 2006, 09:22 AM

Originally Posted by Gravy

Love this testimonial on that site:
Price of 125mw laser: $499.99. Use the striker on the back of the matchbook, dude!

Yeah, thats probably the funniest thing about that site. No one in any of the reviews has an acutal use for these lasers.

Of course, I do want one.

Bell · 19th October 2006, 09:23 AM

Originally Posted by chipmunk stew

Sure there is:

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g7...w/Image199.jpg

I'm sure there's a hidden message in this image that brings it all together. I'm going to go stare at it for a few hours until I understand what it means.

Levi Strauss was Jewish

Ersby · 19th October 2006, 09:27 AM

Is this a joke? Can anyone explain the Levi's shop under "conclusions" on page six?

Hmm, I'm too slow.

Overman · 19th October 2006, 09:27 AM

Originally Posted by Gravy

Despite PNAC getting their "New Pearl Harbor." What's the hold-up?

[heavy breathing voice]

I find your lack of faith disturbing...

[/heaving breathing voice]

NoZed Avenger · 19th October 2006, 09:30 AM

Originally Posted by TruthSeeker1234

Drs. Wood and Reynolds complete their thesis in public view. They note that the Kingdome demolition created a 2.3 richter earthquake, and point out that WTC had many times the PE, and should have caused a much larger earthquake than the 2.3, and 2.1 quakes that were actually measured.

The foundation of the WTC (the "bathtub") was not damaged.

This is strong evidence for the near total disintegration of the towers before they hit the ground.

Transcript, 9/10/01 NSA.

POTUS: As you can see, we plan to use our "LASER" fired from what I have decided to call our "DEATH STAR" to completely demolish two buildings in New York. Now, we will use the chaos that follows to seize the Middle-East's oil and make . . . . a billion dollars.

SECDEF: But won't people notice a death beam knocking down buildings?

POTUS: That is the beauty of this plan. The beam is completely invisible. We will simultaneously hijack two of our own planes and crash duplicates of them into the tower at precisely the same instant that the beam hits, causing people to believe that the massive collision and resulting, uncontrolled fires actually causes the buildings to collapse. We will blame the hijackers for the mess and use it as a pretext for our plans.

VPOTUS: Um. Wouldn't just hitting the buildings with the planes or missiles actually cause a huge amount of damage, even without this . . . er-

POTUS: "LASER"

VPOTUS: Yeah, sure. Even without this beam, wouldn't the collision and fire kill a lot of people?

POTUS: Well, yes.

VPOTUS: I mean, wouldn't that be enough for our purposes, even if the buildings don't actually fall down -- although they might.

POTUS: Well, yes.

SECDEF: So adding this laser thing doesn't actually do anything for us?

POTUS: . . .

SECDEF: And if it is essentially undetectable, wouldn't it just be easier to use it on our enemies?

POTUS: But it is shiny. Cheney, kill him.

[loud noise]

SECDEF: Gaaaaarrh.

[undetermined thump noise]

POTUS: Very good.

SECDEF: I'm not actually dead.

POTUS: . . .

SECDEF: He's only managed to wound me with bird shot.

POTUS: . . .

SECDEF: This is quite painful, but I should survive with prompt medical attention.

VPOTUS: Oh, who cares. Let's just do it so I can get more oil money in a mysterious fashion that we'll work out later.

POTUS: Very well. It is all very simple, gentlemen.

NATSECADV: Sure. All we do is find a number of men that can be easily blamed as foreign terrorists and buy them one way plane tickets for tomorrow morning, then we send out teams to make them disappear and leave suicide notes and video tapes from people cleverly disguised to mimic them. Our own men will then hijack 4 planes and divert them to Pennsylvania, where the passengers will be killed and disposed of by our unquestioning minions. Duplicate images of those planes will be created from missiles that will be fired by military jets, striking the twin towers just before we use our "LASER" to disintegrate the buildings. A third duplicate plane missile will be fired into the Pentagon, while we will stage the crash of the fourth plane in a field, scattering remains and personal affects of the passengers from one of the planes that we will take from them and transfer to the location with a team of men in time to plant them and leave before emergency help arrives. We will, by taking the passenger list of that plane and verifying that they actually made the flight, then use computer simulations of their voices that are capable of fooling their own family members to mimic calls to their loved ones, creating additional pathos. While we will choose men from Saudi Arabia as our patsies, we will nevertheless use them as a pretext for invading Iraq.

VPOTUS: . . .

POTUS: Well, sure. It sounds silly when you say it.

Blutarsky · 19th October 2006, 09:32 AM

Maybe I was wrong. It wasn't the Death Star at all, it was the Alan Parsons Project.

Crungy · 19th October 2006, 09:34 AM

Originally Posted by chipmunk stew

Sure there is:

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g7...w/Image199.jpg

I'm sure there's a hidden message in this image that brings it all together. I'm going to go stare at it for a few hours until I understand what it means.

http://www.internationalskeptics.com...t=66290&page=8

Quote:

a Dassault Falcon 20 business jet owned by the VF Corp. of Greensboro, N.C., an apparel company that markets Wrangler jeans and other brands. The VF plane was flying into Johnstown-Cambria airport, 20 miles north of Shanksville.

This photo is the smoking gun that proves without any doubt that Wrangler jeans was behind 9/11!

TruthSeeker1234 · 19th October 2006, 09:34 AM

Originally Posted by ImaginalDisc

Two flaming 110 storey tall buildings fall and you think fire damaged cars constitute a mystery?

Yes. No rubble, yet toasted cars. Cars half toasted, half pristine. Spontaneoulsy exploding car engines (not gas tanks). Firetruck burned out and windows broken but otherwise undamaged.

Yes, very hard for me to understand, do take a try a explaining how a flaming building falls and accomplishes this stuff.

Gravy · 19th October 2006, 09:36 AM

Originally Posted by TruthSeeker1234

Yes. No rubble, yet toasted cars. Cars half toasted, half pristine. Spontaneoulsy exploding car engines (not gas tanks). Firetruck burned out and windows broken but otherwise undamaged.

Yes, very hard for me to understand, do take a try a explaining how a flaming building falls and accomplishes this stuff.

No rubble! Spontaneously exploding car engines! Oh, TS, you slay me!

TruthSeeker1234 · 19th October 2006, 09:39 AM

Originally Posted by Beleth

Doesn't the official version of the collapse also describe a situation where the buildings would mostly be rubble by the time they hit the ground?

One of the problems is that there is no significant rubble at WTC. About 20% of the steel, and about 1% (at most) of the concrete.

19th October 2006, 08:21 AM	#1
TruthSeeker1234 Banned Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,756	Star Wars Beam Weapon and the WTC Bathtub http://janedoe0911.tripod.com/StarWarsBeam1.html Drs. Wood and Reynolds complete their thesis in public view. They note that the Kingdome demolition created a 2.3 richter earthquake, and point out that WTC had many times the PE, and should have caused a much larger earthquake than the 2.3, and 2.1 quakes that were actually measured. The foundation of the WTC (the "bathtub") was not damaged. This is strong evidence for the near total disintegration of the towers before they hit the ground. They caclulate how much dust should be produced, and present lots of photographic evidence of disintegration. Also shown are many difficult-to-explain phenomena, such as the toasted cars, and blown out windows. I eagerly await any "debunking".
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19th October 2006, 08:22 AM	#2
Hellbound Merchant of Doom Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Not in Hell, but I can see it from here on a clear day... Posts: 15,112	Well, I eagerly await anything to bunk besides a personal opinion and argument from ignorance.
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19th October 2006, 08:25 AM	#3
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19th October 2006, 08:26 AM	#4
uk_dave Philosopher Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 8,154	Originally Posted by TruthSeeker1234 http://janedoe0911.tripod.com/StarWarsBeam1.html Drs. Wood and Reynolds complete their thesis in public view. They note that the Kingdome demolition created a 2.3 richter earthquake, and point out that WTC had many times the PE, and should have caused a much larger earthquake than the 2.3, and 2.1 quakes that were actually measured. The foundation of the WTC (the "bathtub") was not damaged. This is strong evidence for the near total disintegration of the towers before they hit the ground. They caclulate how much dust should be produced, and present lots of photographic evidence of disintegration. Also shown are many difficult-to-explain phenomena, such as the toasted cars. I eagerly await any "debunking". You know, it's pretty bloody impossible for them to hit the ground intact....unless you imagine them being lifted by some incredible lifting ray traction beam thingy and then dropped from a great height. Still, there is always the possibility that jesus walked amongst the mayans.
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19th October 2006, 08:26 AM	#5
Hellbound Merchant of Doom Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Not in Hell, but I can see it from here on a clear day... Posts: 15,112	Originally Posted by Gravy Killtown, 'zat you? No, Truthseeker's just as nutty, but not (quite) as openly juvenile.
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19th October 2006, 08:28 AM	#6
bjb Graduate Poster Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,079	So it was a controlled thermite demolition AND a beam weapon attack? And there were no planes and all of the videos were fakes?
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19th October 2006, 08:28 AM	#7
ImaginalDisc Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 10,219	I'll let more knowledgeable and dedicated skeptics tackle the rest of this nonsense, but this one bit I have to comment on. Originally Posted by TruthSeeker1234 Also shown are many difficult-to-explain phenomena, such as the toasted cars, and blown out windows. Two flaming 110 storey tall buildings fall and you think fire damaged cars constitute a mystery?

19th October 2006, 08:29 AM	#8
uk_dave Philosopher Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 8,154	Is it really true that judy wood spent 6 years in a coma?
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19th October 2006, 08:30 AM	#9
Hellbound Merchant of Doom Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Not in Hell, but I can see it from here on a clear day... Posts: 15,112	Originally Posted by uk_dave Is it really true that judy wood spent 6 years in a coma? And if it isn't, can we make it true now? [before anyone takes this out of context, it's a freaking joke, people. Lighten up]
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19th October 2006, 08:34 AM	#10
Crungy Critical Thinker Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 449	Anyone else besides me think that Dr. Wood is one sexy momma? Isn't Morgan Reynolds a "no planer"?
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19th October 2006, 08:35 AM	#11
Dog Town Banned Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 6,862	Originally Posted by uk_dave Is it really true that judy wood spent 6 years in a coma? Yes, and we have no proof she has really come out of it. This is by far the dumbest CT, I've heard yet, well...almost!
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19th October 2006, 08:37 AM	#12
Gravy Downsitting Citizen Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 17,078	Originally Posted by uk_dave Is it really true that judy wood spent 6 years in a coma? Why are you writing in the past tense?
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19th October 2006, 08:40 AM	#13
kevin Graduate Poster Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 1,666	just some random questions: Would the geology of the areas impacted affect the richter reading? Is this analyzed at all? Richter is a peak reading, if it the peak were held longer during the WTC collapse would the same amount of energy be dissipated as a higher peak in a shorter time? Did they calculate the loss of energy that went into destroying the building instead of the ground? In a CD (i.e. the King Dome) more energy goes into the ground because not as much is needed to destroy the building itself.
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19th October 2006, 08:42 AM	#14
FramerDave Muse Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 819	Ok, I really don't have the time or desire to wade through the entire bloody thing. But a few things that immediately jump out at me: Figure 14 and 15. WTC station and platform before the event, and on 11/23/03. What is this supposed to show? It took a couple years and probably quite a few million dollars to get the stations open again. Figure 13: WTC Station Platform after the event; this PATH train wasn't crushed. Again, so what? Figure 22: Warner Bros. Store in the mall under where WTC2 "fell" That's not a photo of the store, it's a storage room where much of what remained after the collapse is stored. An error at best, deliberately misleading at worst. Figure 23: Roadrunner survived! See above. And so? Do they really think that every single object was turned to dust? God, I can't even go further, much less look at the Satr Wars beam crap. My head hurts looking at so much stupid.
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19th October 2006, 08:53 AM	#15
Blutarsky Critical Thinker Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 272	I love the fact that there is nothing under the subheading of "Conclusions." It speaks volumes... I noticed the infamous "billiard ball" page was linked to. Was this tripe written by the same person who didn't understand the difference between elastic and inelastic collisions in momentum equations?
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19th October 2006, 09:00 AM	#16
Bell Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 21,050	Originally Posted by Blutarsky I love the fact that there is nothing under the subheading of "Conclusions." It speaks volumes... I noticed the infamous "billiard ball" page was linked to. Was this tripe written by the same person who didn't understand the difference between elastic and inelastic collisions in momentum equations? Well, that's it for me then. I'm not gonna read all this drivel, and thought of only reading the conclusion. Well, appearantly, there is nothing to conclude from all this.

19th October 2006, 09:02 AM	#17
Blutarsky Critical Thinker Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 272	If this is the same person who drafted the "billiard ball" website I have no need to read on, just as if someone created a site that purported to have evidence that the Amish were behind 9/11.

19th October 2006, 09:03 AM	#18
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19th October 2006, 09:05 AM	#19
Augustine Muse Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 995	Dr. Wood's area of expertise is moire interferometry, an optical method of measuring surface strains. She is so far out of her field as to be laughable. Dr. Reynolds is an economist! His ability to speak intelligently or coherently on building collapse and the mechanics involved is on a par with the fellow who set fire to his rabbit cage. The only event this paper is evidence of is academics straying way WAY out of their lane and appealing to their PhD (in entirely unrelated fields) to lend weight to their mindless blatherings.
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19th October 2006, 09:05 AM	#20
Gravy Downsitting Citizen Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 17,078	Originally Posted by Overman Star warz beam weapons do not yet exist on that scale. Despite PNAC getting their "New Pearl Harbor." What's the hold-up?
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19th October 2006, 09:06 AM	#21
fuelair Banned Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 58,581	Originally Posted by bjb So it was a controlled thermite demolition AND a beam weapon attack? And there were no planes and all of the videos were fakes? Don't forget the invisible Black helicopters. (NEVER forget the invisible Black helicopters!!!!) (That's how they got Bob - the sub-genius - he forgot!)
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19th October 2006, 09:08 AM	#22
fuelair Banned Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 58,581	Originally Posted by uk_dave Is it really true that judy wood spent 6 years in a coma? Is it really true that "judy" got wood for six years while in a comma?
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19th October 2006, 09:09 AM	#23
Blutarsky Critical Thinker Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 272	Quote: So it was a controlled thermite demolition AND a beam weapon attack? And there were no planes and all of the videos were fakes? No. They're eating one another now. She thinks that Jones is just too crazy in asserting Thermite was involved. She says that explosives + the death star were used. Thermite was just too preposterous for her, so she decided that after the gubment was done destroying Alderan, that they needed a new target.
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19th October 2006, 09:12 AM	#24
Beleth FAQ Creator Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 4,125	Originally Posted by TruthSeeker1234 This is strong evidence for the near total disintegration of the towers before they hit the ground. Doesn't the official version of the collapse also describe a situation where the buildings would mostly be rubble by the time they hit the ground?
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19th October 2006, 09:15 AM	#25
Loss Leader I would save the receptionist. Moderator Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Florida Posts: 28,266	On the plus side, we now have the phasers finished for when we get the Enterprise working. TS1234, how's the work on the tractor beam coming? Also, have you figured out how to sustain a stable warp field?
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19th October 2006, 09:16 AM	#26
jujigatami Thinker Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 136	Dammit, All of this is because of me. When I was there on 9/11 I had one of these with me: http://www.wickedlasers.com/products...ontent=extreme That must be what Woods is referring to, right?
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19th October 2006, 09:19 AM	#27
chipmunk stew Philosopher Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 7,448	Originally Posted by Blutarsky I love the fact that there is nothing under the subheading of "Conclusions." Sure there is: I'm sure there's a hidden message in this image that brings it all together. I'm going to go stare at it for a few hours until I understand what it means.

19th October 2006, 09:19 AM	#28
Gravy Downsitting Citizen Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 17,078	Originally Posted by jujigatami http://www.wickedlasers.com/products...ontent=extreme Love this testimonial on that site: Quote: i bought a 125mw laser and was able to burn through a 1-inch thick cotten rope. Then, I lit a match with it; that was the ultimate cool! I recommend spending the extra money and buying this model unless you have small children. Price of 125mw laser: $499.99. Use the striker on the back of the matchbook, dude!
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19th October 2006, 09:21 AM	#29
Blutarsky Critical Thinker Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 272	I did them one better. I actually found the blueprint of the dastardly device:

19th October 2006, 09:22 AM	#30
Gravy Downsitting Citizen Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 17,078	Originally Posted by chipmunk stew Sure there is: http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g7...w/Image199.jpg I'm sure there's a hidden message in this image that brings it all together. I'm going to go stare at it for a few hours until I understand what it means. Check the "second plane at Shanksville thread." TC and Killtown think the company that makes Wrangler Jeans was in on it.
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19th October 2006, 09:22 AM	#31
jujigatami Thinker Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 136	Originally Posted by Gravy Love this testimonial on that site: Price of 125mw laser: $499.99. Use the striker on the back of the matchbook, dude! Yeah, thats probably the funniest thing about that site. No one in any of the reviews has an acutal use for these lasers. Of course, I do want one.
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19th October 2006, 09:23 AM	#32
Bell Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 21,050	Originally Posted by chipmunk stew Sure there is: http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g7...w/Image199.jpg I'm sure there's a hidden message in this image that brings it all together. I'm going to go stare at it for a few hours until I understand what it means. Levi Strauss was Jewish

19th October 2006, 09:27 AM	#33
Ersby Fortean Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 1,881	Is this a joke? Can anyone explain the Levi's shop under "conclusions" on page six? Hmm, I'm too slow.
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19th October 2006, 09:27 AM	#34
Overman Master Poster Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 2,629	Originally Posted by Gravy Despite PNAC getting their "New Pearl Harbor." What's the hold-up? [heavy breathing voice] I find your lack of faith disturbing... [/heaving breathing voice]
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19th October 2006, 09:30 AM	#35
NoZed Avenger Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 11,286	Originally Posted by TruthSeeker1234 Drs. Wood and Reynolds complete their thesis in public view. They note that the Kingdome demolition created a 2.3 richter earthquake, and point out that WTC had many times the PE, and should have caused a much larger earthquake than the 2.3, and 2.1 quakes that were actually measured. The foundation of the WTC (the "bathtub") was not damaged. This is strong evidence for the near total disintegration of the towers before they hit the ground. Transcript, 9/10/01 NSA. POTUS: As you can see, we plan to use our "LASER" fired from what I have decided to call our "DEATH STAR" to completely demolish two buildings in New York. Now, we will use the chaos that follows to seize the Middle-East's oil and make . . . . a billion dollars. SECDEF: But won't people notice a death beam knocking down buildings? POTUS: That is the beauty of this plan. The beam is completely invisible. We will simultaneously hijack two of our own planes and crash duplicates of them into the tower at precisely the same instant that the beam hits, causing people to believe that the massive collision and resulting, uncontrolled fires actually causes the buildings to collapse. We will blame the hijackers for the mess and use it as a pretext for our plans. VPOTUS: Um. Wouldn't just hitting the buildings with the planes or missiles actually cause a huge amount of damage, even without this . . . er- POTUS: "LASER" VPOTUS: Yeah, sure. Even without this beam, wouldn't the collision and fire kill a lot of people? POTUS: Well, yes. VPOTUS: I mean, wouldn't that be enough for our purposes, even if the buildings don't actually fall down -- although they might. POTUS: Well, yes. SECDEF: So adding this laser thing doesn't actually do anything for us? POTUS: . . . SECDEF: And if it is essentially undetectable, wouldn't it just be easier to use it on our enemies? POTUS: But it is shiny. Cheney, kill him. [loud noise] SECDEF: Gaaaaarrh. [undetermined thump noise] POTUS: Very good. SECDEF: I'm not actually dead. POTUS: . . . SECDEF: He's only managed to wound me with bird shot. POTUS: . . . SECDEF: This is quite painful, but I should survive with prompt medical attention. VPOTUS: Oh, who cares. Let's just do it so I can get more oil money in a mysterious fashion that we'll work out later. POTUS: Very well. It is all very simple, gentlemen. NATSECADV: Sure. All we do is find a number of men that can be easily blamed as foreign terrorists and buy them one way plane tickets for tomorrow morning, then we send out teams to make them disappear and leave suicide notes and video tapes from people cleverly disguised to mimic them. Our own men will then hijack 4 planes and divert them to Pennsylvania, where the passengers will be killed and disposed of by our unquestioning minions. Duplicate images of those planes will be created from missiles that will be fired by military jets, striking the twin towers just before we use our "LASER" to disintegrate the buildings. A third duplicate plane missile will be fired into the Pentagon, while we will stage the crash of the fourth plane in a field, scattering remains and personal affects of the passengers from one of the planes that we will take from them and transfer to the location with a team of men in time to plant them and leave before emergency help arrives. We will, by taking the passenger list of that plane and verifying that they actually made the flight, then use computer simulations of their voices that are capable of fooling their own family members to mimic calls to their loved ones, creating additional pathos. While we will choose men from Saudi Arabia as our patsies, we will nevertheless use them as a pretext for invading Iraq. VPOTUS: . . . POTUS: Well, sure. It sounds silly when you say it.
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