Evidence of a Pancake Collapse of WTC1

gumboot · Oct 22, 2006

My apologies if this has already been pointed out, or if it belongs in another thread.

On the "World Trade Center" website they have some interviews with people who took part in 9/11 in New York. One particularly struck me as interesting. It was a man called Thomas Canavan, who was in the lobby of WTC1 when it collapsed.

The interviews can be seen from the section "In Their Own Words", and Thomas' interview is the last one.

This is the bit that really interested me (my bolding):

...As soon as we got through the doors there was water all over- it was like a lake. All the sprinklers were on. All of the lights were out, except for the emergency lighting. The walls in the lobby of tower one were scorched - all of the marble was scorched. All of the elevator doors were knocked off, hanging off on their hinges.
And as we started to walk out of the doors, with the people I was with, I heard an elderly couple behind me - all of the glass for the doors - the revolving doors - were piled up just like they had smashed and dropped straight down.
And it was wet, it was slippery, I turned around, I went back to help the elderly couple. They had a couple of shopping bags. I helped them through the doors. I turned around to catch up with my co-workers. I got maybe ten feet, and I just felt a huge rush of air coming straight down and a noise of - the only way I can describe it is like a locamotive, but a thousand of them at the same time, and just a thump thump, faster and faster and faster. And the last thing I seen was the people ahead of me, and I just yelled "Run!". And the next thing I know I was just smashed down like a bug with a fly swatter.

If that doesn't sound like a progressive pancake collapse, I don't know what does.

-Gumboot

Killtown · Oct 22, 2006

What disentagrated the core?

Dog Town · Oct 22, 2006

Regardless, welcome back ya Kiwi! Ready for summer?

gumboot · Oct 22, 2006

Dog Town said:
Regardless, welcome back ya Kiwi! Ready for summer?

Well and ready. The Christmas commercials are starting up so there's plenty of film work around. However before summer (New Zealand summer usually doesn't arrive until mid January) we've got to get through our rather stormy erratic rain-sun-rain-sun spring.

-Andrew

Gravy · Oct 22, 2006

Killtown said:
What disentagrated the core?

Remember those billion-pound buildings that collapsed? You might want to start there. Or are you "just asking questions?"

Killtown · Oct 22, 2006

Gravy said:
Remember those billion-pound buildings that collapsed?

K, so how did it disentegrate all the core?

And when are you going to answer my questions?
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=2024285#post2024285

gumboot · Oct 22, 2006

Killtown said:
K, so how did it disentegrate all the core?

The core is made up of lots of little bits. When everything else fell down those bits no longer had the support of the structure, and so lost their own structural integrity. Core fall down.

-Gumboot

Dog Town · Oct 22, 2006

Core fall down.

And go boom! Sorry... thought he might need that part. Lack of understanding and all!

Horatius · Oct 22, 2006

And the next thing I know I was just smashed down like a bug with a fly swatter.

Oh My God! It was really giants with flyswatters all this time!

How foolish we've all been!

Hey, it's no sillier than any other theory, right?

Killtown · Oct 22, 2006

gumboot said:
The core is made up of lots of little bits. When everything else fell down those bits no longer had the support of the structure, and so lost their own structural integrity. Core fall down.

-Gumboot

So the basement was blown?

Bell · Oct 22, 2006

gumboot said:
The core is made up of lots of little bits. When everything else fell down those bits no longer had the support of the structure, and so lost their own structural integrity. Core fall down.

-Gumboot

That was the long answer.
This is the longer answer.

gumboot · Oct 22, 2006

Killtown said:
So the basement was blown?

...

no

-Gumboot

Oliver · Oct 22, 2006

gumboot said:
...

no

-Gumboot

You need your avatar back in place, Andrew.

Mancman · Oct 22, 2006

Killtown said:
So the basement was blown?

You have become a self parody.

Killtown · Oct 22, 2006

gumboot said:
...

no

-Gumboot

so when everything else fell down those bits no longer had the support of the structure. I thought the core WAS the support structure. Was it not?

Bell · Oct 22, 2006

Mancman said:
You have become a self parody.

Self parody:

Source: Wikipedia

gumboot · Oct 22, 2006

Killtown said:
so when everything else fell down those bits no longer had the support of the structure. I thought the core WAS the support structure. Was it not?

The core was one element of the structure. The various elements of a structure rely on each other to maintain structural integrity. Disrupting one element of a structure will disrupt elements surrounding it, which in turn will disrupt elements surrounding them, and so on.

The integrity of the core relied on the integrity of the exterior columns and the floor trusses.

The integrity of the exterior columns relied on the integrity of the core and floor trusses.

The integrity of the floor trusses relied on the integrity of the core and exterior columns.

-Gumboot

qarnos · Oct 22, 2006

Oliver said:
You need your avatar back in place, Andrew.

I've forgotten what his avatar looked like.

Speaking of avatars, has yours always had a bite taken out of it, Oliver?

Killtown · Oct 22, 2006

gumboot said:
The core was one element of the structure. The various elements of a structure rely on each other to maintain structural integrity. Disrupting one element of a structure will disrupt elements surrounding it, which in turn will disrupt elements surrounding them, and so on.

The integrity of the core relied on the integrity of the exterior columns and the floor trusses.

The integrity of the exterior columns relied on the integrity of the core and floor trusses.

The integrity of the floor trusses relied on the integrity of the core and exterior columns.

-Gumboot

You mean like this:

http://www.nrc.nl/W2/Lab/Profiel/Speelgoed/jenga.jpg

twinstead · Oct 22, 2006

Killtown said:
You mean like this:

http://www.nrc.nl/W2/Lab/Profiel/Speelgoed/jenga.jpg

LOL. What, are you 15 years old?

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