CTists: The Worst Analysts in All History, or Just This Century?

CTists: Worst Analysts in All History, or Just This Century?

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CTists: The Worst Analysts in All History, or Just This Century?

How can all of the CTists we've been talking to have spent all this time looking at the evidence, and not come up with any conclusions, no matter how tenative?

When I took a look at the photos of "round holes" TS1234 posted, it took me all of about 30 seconds to note the straight lines that seemed to line up, and then to notice the regular spacings. This lead me in short order to the conclusion that we were seeing the effect of the roof beams, which seems to have been born out by the evidence.

So why can't any of the CTists ever seem to come to a conclusion, that can be tested? Are they all really that bad at figuring things out?
 
All history. It dates back from before witchhunting, the Spanish Inquisition (nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition) and what not.
 
Bell said:
All history. It dates back from before witchhunting, the Spanish Inquisition (nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition) and what not.
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You may laugh about it but to me it´s the exact
description: "Modern Witchhunting". :boggled:
 
I voted just this century.


Then I read another thread by TS1234


I want to change my vote.
 
Since this century is only 7 years old, I had to go with all history. It's easy to imagine analysts doing as poorly with paltry information, but very difficult to imagine that anyone in history has come up with a worse analysis of such a wealth of information.
 
I agree with Gravy. For example, the theory that the sun goes around the earth fits the observational data, or at least can be made to fit it with the addition of a few epicycles. But, when better data came along, the geocentric hypothesis was discarded.

CTists do the exact opposite. They modify the data they are presented with to fit their creaky hypothesis rather than revise or discard their obviously flawed model. They are the antithesis of true scientists.
 
CTist usually quip "a picture is worth a thousand words". Yea, but there's no guarantee those words will the correct words.

The special effects movie industry banks on people missinterpreting pictures.
 
Gravy said:
Since this century is only 7 years old, I had to go with all history. It's easy to imagine analysts doing as poorly with paltry information, but very difficult to imagine that anyone in history has come up with a worse analysis of such a wealth of information.
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I was going to say this century (technically it's 5.91 years old ;)) because of all those really stupid ideas throughout history. But then I considered, in those instances people didn't really have a lot of data. The CTers have information coming out the gazoo, and yet they still manage to get it wrong.

-Gumboot
 
In addition to worst analysts, can we also call them the worst hypocrites in all of history?
 
New series Monarchy with David Starkey started last night on Channel 4. He started his series with Charles II, and spent about a quarter of the programme discussing the First Great Conspiracy Theory - the Popish Plot of Titus Oates. Oates was the Alex Jones of his day, only far more so, far worse, and far far less prepossessing in person.

I voted "this century" because I interpreted CTists as being 9/11 CTists. Maybe I was wrong. However, Bible Fundamentalists (most particularly KJV-Onlyists) are even worst analysts. As are the general members of the public when assessing any purported "scientific result" that essentially involves wasting grant money on people who tell us either the bleeding obvious or the hopelessly misled and fallacious (like the government morons who were convinced that Second Hand Smoking is somehow on the increase).
 
Larry Lovage said:
snip...(like the government morons who were convinced that Second Hand Smoking is somehow on the increase).
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But this is true! With the increases in Tobacco taxes and insurance costs, Cigarettes are too expensive to buy, so more desperate smokers are sitting beside the butt cans next to public areas (where smoking is prhibuted by law) and picking up the used ones with a few puffs left...!

see-it is a discriminatory tactic against the poor!
:D
 
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Lol, Posts/Polls like this should surely be in the "humor" forum?

I mean, sorry to interupt all the back patting, but what did you expect on a site such as this? Your preaching to the converted really.

Imagine going to a Christian forum & do a poll like "Is Creationism, Intelligent Design or Evolution the best theory on where we come from?"

Or "Are people who dont think the Bible is written by God idiots?"

Or go to a computer AMD forum. "Do you think Intel is better than AMD?"

Or go to a Ford forum & ask "Is GM better than Ford?"

You guys.

D2011
 
D2011 said:
Lol, Posts/Polls like this should surely be in the "humor" forum?

I mean, sorry to interupt all the back patting, but what did you expect on a site such as this? Your preaching to the converted really.
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The point is that debunking CTs ties into the whole skeptical movement. Poor analysis skills exist all over the place. If the CTists engaged in a bit more self-reflection, they might notice how they're really not that different from the witchhunters of the past, or the homeopaths of today, or even the more outlandish members of their own movement.

We've seen a few threads lately of people like PD'oh complaining about the Beam Weapon people and the No Planers. If they could really take a look at themselves, they'd relize they look the same way to us.

This is just a meta-thread to emphasise this, so we don't get bogged down in any one particular wacky claim. Even if it's a bit of a lark. you ned to lighten the mood every now and then, when dealing with such heavy issues.

Oh, and for the record, my cat is annoyed at you....

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See? Lighten up, have a laugh.
 
Now here's a cat:
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The conspiracy nuts are the worst analysts in all of history, to be sure. It's an act of pure generosity to call them "analysts" at all.

I think conspiracism is a psychological disorder in which a very stupid person (usually a white guy) thinks he's a genius.
 
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D2011 said:
Lol, Posts/Polls like this should surely be in the "humor" forum?

I mean, sorry to interupt all the back patting, but what did you expect on a site such as this? Your preaching to the converted really.D2011
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I also noticed you're one of only two who voted that JAQing is analysis, and the other guy has never posted anything other than this vote. Bet you didn't know tracking was an option for polls, huh?

So why did you choose that option? Do you really believe that just asking a question, with no attempt at answering it, no matter how easy it might be to find the answer, is actually a useful activity?

Or were you just tweaking our noses?
 
Poor analysis skills exist all over the place. If the CTists engaged in a bit more self-reflection, they might notice how they're really not that different from the witchhunters of the past, or the homeopaths of today, or even the more outlandish members of their own movement.
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Well, everyone gets it wrong sometimes. You think researchers/scientists/skeptics throughout history have never been wrong or made mistakes? Many scientists throughout history have developed theories which have been laughed at by their peers. Their ideas being ridiculed by others only to have it confirmed later & accepted by their peers.

Ok, so 98% of Conspiracy Theories are shown to be unfounded, but the point Im making is, the people you gather your evidence from & hold in high esteem make mistakes too.

We've seen a few threads lately of people like PD'oh complaining about the Beam Weapon people and the No Planers.
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Well, hard drugs have a tendency to do that.

you ned to lighten the mood every now and then, when dealing with such heavy issues.
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See? Lighten up, have a laugh.
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Thats why I suggested the humor forum. As it is humerous.

Oh, and for the record, my cat is annoyed at you....
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I just checked with some Christian nuts I work with & yep, that cat is evil. Black cat,green eyes etc. So Im not listening to it.

I also noticed you're one of only two who voted that JAQing is analysis, and the other guy has never posted anything other than this vote. Bet you didn't know tracking was an option for polls, huh?
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Yep, sure did. If you click on the number it shows you who voted. Thats why I backed it up with a reply.

Or were you just tweaking our noses?
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Well, someone had to. Like I said, its humerous, but since you are preaching to the converted, you knew what the result would have been.

D2011
 
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