Video, moments after Pentagon strike

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It amazes me, that everytime I Google for information regarding 9/11, I keep finding stuff I have never seen before. Take the next image for example, taken from the South Tower :eek:

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But more amazing (to me that is, I have never seen this one before) is this video, starting just moments after the Pentagon strike :eek:

http://www.tribby.net/pentagon/pentagon.mov
 
Bell said:
It amazes me, that everytime I Google for information regarding 9/11, I keep finding stuff I have never seen before. Take the next image for example, taken from the South Tower :eek:

[qimg]http://www.911familiesforamerica.org/images/Img7.jpg[/qimg]

But more amazing (to me that is, I have never seen this one before) is this video, starting just moments after the Pentagon strike :eek:

http://www.tribby.net/pentagon/pentagon.mov
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Good find. It's incredible the amount of smoke coming out of the building towards the end. Also note half way through; two aircraft flying above the smoke.

I still can't get over just how surreal it must have been to witness these attacks unfold.

-Gumboot
 
defaultdotxbe said:
"clearly an ordinance blast"
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Heh. That was my exact response to the video first time I saw it too.

Oliver: the photo you posted is indeed from the same guy - it's actually a frame capture from his video, not a photograph. Note the horizontal lines on the car. These are caused by video interlacing.

-Gumboot
 
Let's see: Huge cloud of dense black smoke. Now what is most likely to cause that kind of smoke: cruise missile or jet plane loaded with several thousand gallons of jet fuel?
 
I'm not sure of the orientation, but it looks to me like the bulk of the Pentagon is between the explosion and the camera. So Lyte Trip's flyover plane, if it existed, would have either gone directly over the car or just in front of it. Maybe someone with photography skills (Arkan, I'm looking at you) could establish the position and path of the car relative to the Pentagon and see where the "flyover" plane would have gone and where (or if) it would have gone over the car.
 
Since the video starts seconds after the strike, I would guess the person handling the camera, saw the actual explosion. I also guess s/he would have noted a plane screaming close over the Pentagon. Now, what would I film? Smoke, or that plane?
 
Bell said:
It amazes me, that everytime I Google for information regarding 9/11, I keep finding stuff I have never seen before. Take the next image for example, taken from the South Tower :eek:

[qimg]http://www.911familiesforamerica.org/images/Img7.jpg[/qimg]

But more amazing (to me that is, I have never seen this one before) is this video, starting just moments after the Pentagon strike :eek:

http://www.tribby.net/pentagon/pentagon.mov
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That photo is new to me although, I've seen the video.

This is a good idea for a thread. Let post photos and videos people may not have seen.

Here's some more photos inside the towers.
http://photography.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http://www.phatmax.net/wtc/wow.php

Terrorists right before boarding on airport video
http://www.hybrideb.com/content/evidence/airport.mpg

A super hirez shot of the core shortly after collapse
http://aboutfacts.net/LargePictures/Else21/Ground Zero.jpg

hirez shot of towers just before collapse
http://911wtc.freehostia.com/gallery/originalimages/GJS-WTC25.jpg

http://englishrussia.com/?p=501
Russian photos from pilot
 
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Bell said:
Since the video starts seconds after the strike, I would guess the person handling the camera, saw the actual explosion. I also guess s/he would have noted a plane screaming close over the Pentagon. Now, what would I film? Smoke, or that plane?
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So why hasn't the Elite Pentagon Research Team asked the cameraperson whether or not they noted a plane screaming close over the Pentagon?

A) They don't know who took the video

B) They haven't been able to find the person

C) They did ask them but didn't like the answer ("no")

My money is on "C".
 
Good idea, Kent1.

I've seen some of those 'inside' pictures before, but not all.

Maybe a mod can retitle this thread to something like "Rare 9/11 photo's and video's"
 
Kent1 said:
http://englishrussia.com/?p=501
Russian photos from pilot
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Looks like the Russian guy (or whoever authors that website) is a nutter as well:
The author of the photos says he doesn’t believe at all that this maneur could be done by some rookie who just graduated from “Florida Flight School”. According to his opinion it was some very experienced millitary pilot making his last kamikaze mission.
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realitybites said:
Looks like the Russian guy (or whoever authors that website) is a nutter as well:
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He also said the 2nd aircrat was a 737. Given how close he was at the time of impact (based on his photo) he should have been able to distinguish between a 737 and a 767.

-Gumboot
 
According to his opinion it was some very experienced millitary pilot making his last kamikaze mission.
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How can someone fly more than one kamikaze mission, let alone enough to be very experienced at it?
 
Hamradioguy said:
Let's see: Huge cloud of dense black smoke. Now what is most likely to cause that kind of smoke: cruise missile or jet plane loaded with several thousand gallons of jet fuel?
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Ooooh, I know! It means it was oxygen-starved!:rolleyes:
 
Hamradioguy said:
Let's see: Huge cloud of dense black smoke. Now what is most likely to cause that kind of smoke: cruise missile or jet plane loaded with several thousand gallons of jet fuel?
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It's obviously a CGI effect. The plume is too big and it's location doesn't line up with the area of impact. I know because Killtown told me.
 
realitybites said:
Looks like the Russian guy (or whoever authors that website) is a nutter as well:
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Kind of a funny comparison with the kamikazes. The vast majority of them were undertrained due to fuel shortages but still managed to hit moving targets that were much smaller than the pentagon or wtc, and through a curtain of anti-aircraft fire as well. Makes the 9/11 attacks more reasonable, not less.
 
jhunter1163 said:
I'm not sure of the orientation, but it looks to me like the bulk of the Pentagon is between the explosion and the camera. So Lyte Trip's flyover plane, if it existed, would have either gone directly over the car or just in front of it. Maybe someone with photography skills (Arkan, I'm looking at you) could establish the position and path of the car relative to the Pentagon and see where the "flyover" plane would have gone and where (or if) it would have gone over the car.
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I spent some time on this last night and I have not yet determined if they're on the 1, the 110, or the GWP.
 
Killtown really should look at the video. The rest of the Pentagon building is in the frame so we can estimate the size of the plume. Who wants to give it a try? We can also see how quickly the plume moves away from its original location, so it is reasonable to assume the same thing happened to the other flight.
 
Could someone explain some more about the location where Bell's first photo was shot?

Whoever wrote the website about the Russian Pilots photos gives the date as 9 September 2001!

The background of this shot shows how far (and fast) the debris from the 2nd strike was sent and how much material was ejected closer to the WTC itself. Even prior to the collapse, it seems reasonable to me to expect that this material would have caused substantial damage to the buildings surrounding the towers.
 
gtc said:
Could someone explain some more about the location where Bell's first photo was shot?
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Do you mean a floor number? Dunno.
It is taken from the south tower, looking down at the plaza. The north tower is on the left.

Whoever wrote the website about the Russian Pilots photos gives the date as 9 September 2001!
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Common misconseption with us dd-mm-yy writers. We would write 11/9 (first the day, than the month). So 9/11 would become 9 november, but since September is so much connected to the events, a common mistake is to say 9/11 as 9 September.

The background of this shot shows how far (and fast) the debris from the 2nd strike was sent and how much material was ejected closer to the WTC itself. Even prior to the collapse, it seems reasonable to me to expect that this material would have caused substantial damage to the buildings surrounding the towers.
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You can see the size of the explosion of AA11 here (webcam images).
 
Pardalis said:
Better show that to Killtown.
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That does make killtown look like an idiot.

Wait killtown is an idiot.

It is sad to think about these things, that looks just like an Air Force accident smoke plume. Not happy thoughts.

Killtown is the lowest form of life, a dumb disrespectful liar.
 
ref, whoever made that Trinity Church tape tampered with it. Did you notice that you do not hear the demolitions going off?? If you don't believe me, just ask TS1234 and his fellow err Cracked Researchers they'll tell you, and would they lie I ask you?? he he
 
I Am He said:
ref, whoever made that Trinity Church tape tampered with it. Did you notice that you do not hear the demolitions going off?? If you don't believe me, just ask TS1234 and his fellow err Cracked Researchers they'll tell you, and would they lie I ask you?? he he
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Yeah, sure :)
 
Okay, declaration time!

Anyone that registered in '07 has to use [sarcasm] tags when making jokes! I can't tell who is nutcase from comedian. :(




j/k :D
 
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This is where the video starts. However, the Tribby family themselves say they were further back. They've got a picture showing them almost directly south of the impact. I think that's where they saw the explosion, and then scrambled for the camera. They almost immediately go under the overpass for JD southbound when the video starts.

So they are in the perfect position to have seen any plane fly over the Pentagon after the explosion.
 
Crungy said:
It's obviously a CGI effect. The plume is too big and it's location doesn't line up with the area of impact. I know because Killtown told me.
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Also, if you carefully at the plume, they've hidden the words "9/11, George W. did it and you'll never catch me hahaha!"
 
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