new CT evidence circulating

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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][SIZE=-1]One of my outdoor recreational forums just got hit with this crap.

Supposed brand new evidence.

The firefighter video is heavily edited, no doubt taken out of context.

The pop,pop video sounds fabricated. But maybe the sound of floors collapsing can make that sound as well.

Here it is below

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Posted at DU's 9-11 Forum . . .

"Firefighter Describes 'Molten Metal at Ground Zero, like a Foundry'

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3060923273573302287&sourceid=docidfeed&hl=en

Molten steel running down the channel rails


pop pop pop goes the building

http://youtube.com/watch?v=9tLNvZDRuOE

be sure to turn your speakers on"


Wow. Never seen this footage before. There must be so much more footage out there we don't even have a clue about. Truth will out.

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Same clip, very different sounds, so someone has certainly been playing with it somewhere.

Here's the bit from the first post:

 
babazaroni said:
Posted at DU's 9-11 Forum . . .

"Firefighter Describes 'Molten Metal at Ground Zero, like a Foundry'

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3060923273573302287&sourceid=docidfeed&hl=en

Molten steel running down the channel rails

Wow. Never seen this footage before. There must be so much more footage out there we don't even have a clue about. Truth will out.
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Ah, the video version of a quote mining.....there's a reason that the clip is only 35 seconds long.
 
The new wave of CT is about to hit the fan! Kids making up sound; wonder how many will start suits to get some money from these nice people.

Clint Eastwood went to Japan to bring suit when they used his image; CTers when you lie and post, have you copyrights ready.

Fraud, kind of like LC.
 
Three users were suggesting that the firemen were in on it on thats video comments!

Sick people.
 
beachnut said:
The new wave of CT is about to hit the fan! Kids making up sound; wonder how many will start suits to get some money from these nice people.
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Have you seen the (very) short video of Flight 175 hitting the south tower with the plane photoshopped out so you only see the explosion? It's what the video "really" looked like before the "CGI plane" was added. :rolleyes:
 
WilliamSeger said:
Have you seen the (very) short video of Flight 175 hitting the south tower with the plane photoshopped out so you only see the explosion? It's what the video "really" looked like before the "CGI plane" was added. :rolleyes:
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I saw that at LC, and to my shock and amazement, pretty much all the Loosers properly dismissed it as a hoax(except Killtown :rolleyes: ).
 
babazaroni said:
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][SIZE=-1]One of my outdoor recreational forums just got hit with this crap.[/SIZE][/FONT]

[SIZE=-1][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Supposed brand new evidence.[/FONT][/SIZE]

[SIZE=-1][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Wow. Never seen this footage before. There must be so much more footage out there we don't even have a clue about. Truth will out. [/FONT][/SIZE]
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People are making up the video sounds.
 
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babazaroni said:
Thanks very much Horatius.
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No problem. You'd think that since these guys live and die on YouTube, they could have found it themselves. Search on WTC collapse, and it's on the 3rd or 4th page. It's obvious they didn't even to that little bit of checking before spreading it around. Colour me surprised!
 
apathoid said:
Ah, the video version of a quote mining.....there's a reason that the clip is only 35 seconds long.
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Oh, really? Is there somewhere I could find that clip in a proper context?? Please, please, please...I'm in discussions about that very clip over at DU right now...
 
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boloboffin said:
Oh, really? Is there somewhere I could find that clip in a proper context?? Please, please, please...I'm in discussions about that very clip over at DU right now...
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Thats one of the problem I've encountered myself. The internet is so saturated with all these crappy videos that are chopped up and whatnot, that it is extremely difficult to find decent videos.
 
boloboffin said:
Oh, really? Is there somewhere I could find that clip in a proper context?? Please, please, please...I'm in discussions about that very clip over at DU right now...
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I've taken a look for it, but like SkiBum says, it is very difficult.

I think it will take someone looking at the short edited version and remembering where it came from.
 
That's a problem for anything that touches on the CTs. I tried finding the ignition temperature of thermate yesterday, and 90% of what I got was CT sites about it being used on 9/11, with no useful info.
 
boloboffin said:
Well, how about that. 911research moved the file. No telling how many links that spiteful little pull messed up. This is no way to run a "truth" movement.
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I guess its back because the link works now (save as). But this brings up an idea I had. Why not use a graphic map of the area surrounding the trade center footprint and use it to make a web page with an image map to links of videos? Or pictures even? That way people can get an idea of what corner of what building had damage and from what street video clips or images were shot from. Image maps are fairly easy really. You might want to put placemarks or icons on the image map however so you wouldn't have to hunt with mouse overs.
 
A W Smith said:
I guess its back because the link works now (save as). But this brings up an idea I had. Why not use a graphic map of the area surrounding the trade center footprint and use it to make a web page with an image map to links of videos? Or pictures even? That way people can get an idea of what corner of what building had damage and from what street video clips or images were shot from. Image maps are fairly easy really. You might want to put placemarks or icons on the image map however so you wouldn't have to hunt with mouse overs.
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yeah, i was thinking that, if you coudl figure out where pictures and videos were taken from you coudl place a "photo" or "video" icon on the location and youd click that to see from that angle

more html than i know however
 
defaultdotxbe said:
yeah, i was thinking that, if you coudl figure out where pictures and videos were taken from you coudl place a "photo" or "video" icon on the location and youd click that to see from that angle

more html than i know however
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Oh I could do the image map. Just I'm not certain of some of the video locations.
cept for that one above,
would be nice to be accurate to within say ten feet or so
 
A W Smith said:
I guess its back because the link works now (save as). But this brings up an idea I had. Why not use a graphic map of the area surrounding the trade center footprint and use it to make a web page with an image map to links of videos? Or pictures even? That way people can get an idea of what corner of what building had damage and from what street video clips or images were shot from. Image maps are fairly easy really. You might want to put placemarks or icons on the image map however so you wouldn't have to hunt with mouse overs.
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Yes, there must be better ways to organize images, data, even concepts.

I think the web software running this forum is awesome, and aids the discussion, but it still is very cumbersome to manage all the individual eveidence items.
 
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A W Smith said:
Oh I could do the image map. Just I'm not certain of some of the video locations.
cept for that one above,
would be nice to be accurate to within say ten feet or so
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That shouldn't be too hard. Between New Yorkers familiar with the area and people like me who can do photographic interpretation, it should be pretty straight forward lining up the angle of view on each shot.

IT could get tricky with some of the tighter shots as there's less stuff in frame to make a comparison from, so although you could work out the direction pin pointing an actual distance away could be hard or even impossible.

...actually, not that impossible now I think of it. Even professional news gathering cameras only have so much zoom on them. All of the close up footage would have to be fairly close to the WTC, even if it was on the long end of the zoom.

-Gumboot
 
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