Discrimination Is Good

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People tend not to like to answer this one.
Please reply with the reason for your choice.


You find yourself on the outside of a space ship.
Two space people are floating away by accident and you can only save the life of one.
They are the same distance away and all other conditions are identical.
Except that one of the space people is of the same race as you. The other is not.

Which one will you save, remembering that all other conditions are the same.

Regards
DL
 
1. Are they equally hot?
2. How hot? I'm not sure I want to risk my life in space unless someone's pretty damn hot.
3. Come to that, why do you assume I'll save either? If I liked either of them, why did I create an "accident" and lock them out of the ship to begin with? I must have had good reasons, probably centered around those moon emeralds in the cargo hold. Even if they're hot, I might not bother. After all, a billion dollars in moon emeralds to my name, I can get any level of hotness I want.
4. I'll save the emeralds. Shallow? Yes. But you can denounce me while picketing my huge mansion. I'll watch on my giant television.
 
Greatest I am said:
People tend not to like to answer this one.
Please reply with the reason for your choice.

You find yourself on the outside of a space ship.
Two space people are floating away by accident and you can only save the life of one. They are the same distance away and all other conditions are identical. Except that one of the space people is of the same race as you. The other is not.

Regards
DL
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Which one has bigger tits?

DR
 
I will take a coin and flip it. But then I'll look pretty stupid, because without any gravity to make the coin fall down, it'll just spin and drift away forever. Come to think of it, why does my space suit have pockets in it so I can have coins in them? Oh yes, because I insisted to have arcade machines with me in the space shuttle. Oh, the lure of playing Dance Dance Revolution in space! You are such a harsh mistress, my Japanese freaky rhythm game.

So, I guess I'll have to save that coin, really. I mean, at least it couldn't help its predicament, while the other two people must obviously have done something stupid to have to rely on -me- saving them. Plus, I want to get a new record on DDR.
 
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I choose the one with the biggest penis. If one of them is a woman then I am indeed guilty of discrimination and you may condemn me to burn in whatever hot thing your religion has invented.

Now, what I would really like to discuss is the exact wording of your post.

Two space people are floating away by accident
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If they are 'space people' then they are the same race as each other, namely, the mysterious race that is 'space people'. I've never heard of it but you seem to know what you're talking about so I'll assume it's a race I've just never heard of as I live my entire life on the internet and have never left my home.

However, you go on to say


one of the space people is of the same race as you
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So if they are both of the race space people, and one of them is the same race as me, then we are all the same race. Oh noes! That means I can't discriminate based on superficial characteristics such as skin colour or taste in music!

But wait...they are in space suits, right? Otherwise their eyes would have blown up like in Total Recall. So how do I know which one has the same skin colour as me?

Man, this is indeed a cunning and tricksty conundrum you have placed before us.

One last question.

You find yourself on the outside of a space ship.
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Was that part of the brochure? "Space. Find yourself." Like Rancho Relaxo? Cause if so, and I'm having a big old swim in lake me outside of the ship, I might be too busy with my epiphany to notice my fellow space people drifting away. Perhaps they had come loose from their spacemud baths?

I tell you, they say space is a relaxing vacation but with all the foreign races and hypothetical moral dilemmas, I'll need another break just to recover from finding myself.

Next?

ETA: I just noticed the single tag for this thread. You are right, this is a game, and it is indeed mental.
 
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Darth Rotor said:
Which one has bigger tits?

DR
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:blush: That's good! Which reminds me.

There was a study done recently in which scientists were trying to determine what makes males want to have sex. Of course, they didn't do the simple obvious thing of just asking guys at a strip club. No, they did the longhair egghead thing and studied... flies.

One treatment was to give the guy flies hot girl flies. Major partying going on, total orgy. Then, they give the guy flies ugly girl flies to get it on with. They did, another orgy. Then they cut of the heads of the girl flies and gave the guy flies corpses to shag. They did, hottest orgy yet. Finally, they gave them rotting corpse girl flies. More orgy.

Their shocking conclusion was that guys like sex, no matter what. Who'd a thunk it?
 
Greatest I am said:
People tend not to like to answer this one.
Please reply with the reason for your choice.


You find yourself on the outside of a space ship.
Two space people are floating away by accident and you can only save the life of one. They are the same distance away and all other conditions are identical.
Except that one of the space people is of the same race as you. The other is not.

Which one will you save, remembering that all other conditions are the same.

Regards
DL
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The part I bolded is not possible. There is no way that you could know in advance that you could only save one.

If that is indeed the condition, then I would still go forward trying to save both, perhaps at my own peril.
 
Sometimes the point of getting the answer is how hard folks fight the circumstances. Notice how folks try to find something other than "race" to base their decision upon. That is an answer.

If someone really pressed me, they could cause me to admit I'd kill in self-defence. But I'd fight them tooth-and-nail geting to that. And that is a quite legitimate answer in itself.
 
If you could only save one of two people, all conditions being identical to both except that one is your race and one is not, which one would you save?

I'm a white guy. If one of the Spacemen were white and the other black, I'd save the black guy so that all the politically correct A-holes back on Earth wouldn't kick my butt. Plus, I could walk through Compton at 2:00am without fear!

Seriously now, how could I save the white guy and look cool at home? I think that's how I (or perhaps we) would decide.

Anyone ever see this? Hilarious fake-documentary...
Old Negro Space Program
 
There are far weirder thought puzzles out there...

Here's one (not totally related, but very interesting anyway). I think it was either Peter Singer or Robert Nozick who came up with it, but I don't remember.

"You're standing on a train track next to a point where the track divides into two paths. On one path, there are four people tied to the track, and on the other track, there is one person. You have control of the switch.

A train is coming, and the switch is currently oriented towards the track with the four people. (You can't save the people or stop the train- you just have a choice which track it goes down). Do you flip the switch so that it kills one person, or do you leave it so it kills four people?"

Think about your answer. AFTER you've come up with an answer, try this one:

"There are four people dying in a hospital- one needs a heart transplant, one needs a liver transplant, and two need a kidney transplant. If they get these transplants, they'll live. Otherwise, they'll die.

There is one guy in the waiting room who isn't sick. Should you kill the person in the waiting room and give his heart, liver and kidneys to the patients?"

After all, what's the difference? The choice is- do nothing and four people die, or do something and one different person dies.
 
How come "discrimination is good"? What do you like about it?

Can I let both of them die? Or let both of them live and kill myself? Does this conundrum have anything to do with George Clinton or Sun Ra?
 
Greatest I am said:
People tend not to like to answer this one.
Please reply with the reason for your choice.

You find yourself on the outside of a space ship.
Two space people are floating away by accident and you can only save the life of one.
They are the same distance away and all other conditions are identical.
Except that one of the space people is of the same race as you. The other is not.

Which one will you save, remembering that all other conditions are the same.
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Socio-biologists and like-minded people tend not to like to answer this one. The reason is obvious.

You find yourself on the outside of a space ship in empty space.
You see three in space suits floating away by accident and you can only save one life.
They are the same distance away and all other conditions are identical, except that one is white, one is black and one is the most adorable puppy dog (you choose the race).

Which one will you save, remembering that according to socio-biology you will always choose the one with whom you share the most genes?

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There is probably nothing more conceitedly stupid than socio-biology and Darwinistic psychology when they are trying to prove that racism is natural.
 
Admiral said:
There are far weirder thought puzzles out there...

Here's one (not totally related, but very interesting anyway). I think it was either Peter Singer or Robert Nozick who came up with it, but I don't remember.

"You're standing on a train track next to a point where the track divides into two paths. On one path, there are four people tied to the track, and on the other track, there is one person. You have control of the switch.

A train is coming, and the switch is currently oriented towards the track with the four people. (You can't save the people or stop the train- you just have a choice which track it goes down). Do you flip the switch so that it kills one person, or do you leave it so it kills four people?"

Think about your answer. AFTER you've come up with an answer, try this one:

"There are four people dying in a hospital- one needs a heart transplant, one needs a liver transplant, and two need a kidney transplant. If they get these transplants, they'll live. Otherwise, they'll die.

There is one guy in the waiting room who isn't sick. Should you kill the person in the waiting room and give his heart, liver and kidneys to the patients?"

After all, what's the difference? The choice is- do nothing and four people die, or do something and one different person dies.
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No, it isn't! The guy in the waiting room isn't sick, so he'll kill the guy with the heart failure, and give the liver patient and the two with kidney disorders the organs they need.

I, however, would probably prefer to kill "either Peter Singer or Robert Nozick" or whoever came up with these stupid riddles of moral philosophy.
 
I don't understand how this "mental game" is supposed to demonstrate that discrimination is good. All it shows us that discrimination may (or may not) happen.

Answer: all other things being completely equal, I'd suppose I would rescue the person I liked the most. Whether or not that is the white or black guy depends on what colour the thread starter is.
 
My honest answer?

First, let's remove the ridiculous "in outer space" aspect (if they were in space suits, how likely is it I'd be able to accurately determine both of their races to begin with?). Assume a more neutral situation...I have a choice of saving one of two people, one of whom is the same race as me, one who is not, where all other variables are exactly the same.

Who would I save?

I honestly believe that, if this scenario were to be played over and over enough times, I would end up 'choosing' each person the same number of times. To me, race really wouldn't be an issue at all. No moreso than how I would choose one of the two people if they were both identical twins.

However, there are some people to whom race is such a fundamental aspect of how they define people that they are incapable of believing that anyone else would not have the same world view.
 
I think, there is no way to know for sure until someone sends me on an all-expense paid six-month stint at Space Camp, followed by a well-paid bribe to the Russian space program to take me up into space, go on a perfectly safe (for me) spacewalk, and then commence throwing people of various races out of the airlock for my entertainment.
 
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dglas said:
Sometimes the point of getting the answer is how hard folks fight the circumstances. Notice how folks try to find something other than "race" to base their decision upon. That is an answer.

If someone really pressed me, they could cause me to admit I'd kill in self-defence. But I'd fight them tooth-and-nail geting to that. And that is a quite legitimate answer in itself.
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Fortunately, I have no trouble answering the kill in self-defense. At worst, I would be quicker only in the defense of someone I loved/valued. The problem with the question as posed is it won't happen that perfectly - either you can save both or you likely can't save either in real life, as described. And, there is a way for them to get themselves back to the ship without help anyway - unless they are asphyxiated already (in which case.....).
 
Admiral said:
There are far weirder thought puzzles out there...

Here's one (not totally related, but very interesting anyway). I think it was either Peter Singer or Robert Nozick who came up with it, but I don't remember.

"You're standing on a train track next to a point where the track divides into two paths. On one path, there are four people tied to the track, and on the other track, there is one person. You have control of the switch.

A train is coming, and the switch is currently oriented towards the track with the four people. (You can't save the people or stop the train- you just have a choice which track it goes down). Do you flip the switch so that it kills one person, or do you leave it so it kills four people?"

Think about your answer. AFTER you've come up with an answer, try this one:

"There are four people dying in a hospital- one needs a heart transplant, one needs a liver transplant, and two need a kidney transplant. If they get these transplants, they'll live. Otherwise, they'll die.

There is one guy in the waiting room who isn't sick. Should you kill the person in the waiting room and give his heart, liver and kidneys to the patients?"

After all, what's the difference? The choice is- do nothing and four people die, or do something and one different person dies.
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This is the third time since October this set has been on the forum.
 
I pull out my destructo-beam gun and atomise both of them, because then I have the space ship all to myself! Mwhahahahahaha!
 
TragicMonkey said:
1. Are they equally hot?
2. How hot? I'm not sure I want to risk my life in space unless someone's pretty damn hot.
3. Come to that, why do you assume I'll save either? If I liked either of them, why did I create an "accident" and lock them out of the ship to begin with? I must have had good reasons, probably centered around those moon emeralds in the cargo hold. Even if they're hot, I might not bother. After all, a billion dollars in moon emeralds to my name, I can get any level of hotness I want.
4. I'll save the emeralds. Shallow? Yes. But you can denounce me while picketing my huge mansion. I'll watch on my giant television.
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Sums it up for me. No wonder you're a TLA winner.

whatever the flip that is :rolleyes: :cool:
 
Grammatron said:
I alter the program and save them both.
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And that's why we all love Kirk.

Hypothetically, I would find a way to save them both, in hypothetical reality, what Kingmerv said, in reality, I'm in a room at UCLA, so I can't save space men.

Greatest, did you know that miscegenation tends to produce hardier offspring due to the influx of new genes? Endogamy isn't exactly a good thing genetically.

...Man, if I wasn't on BC, I'd so use that first line to sell my ova...
 
Positive Discrimination

Positive discrimination.

The point that I am attempting to make here is that discrimination can be good if done for positive reasons.
The proper choice here is to chose the one of your race. Not because you negatively discriminate against the other but because you positively take the side of your own. If this would not be allowed we would not be able to have team spirit, patriotism and loyalty. We always need to be careful in our choices keeping in mind that we do not want to throw out the baby with the bath water.
Regards
DL
 
Greatest I am said:
Positive discrimination.

The point that I am attempting to make here is that discrimination can be good if done for positive reasons.
The proper choice here is to chose the one of your race. Not because you negatively discriminate against the other but because you positively take the side of your own. If this would not be allowed we would not be able to have team spirit, patriotism and loyalty. We always need to be careful in our choices keeping in mind that we do not want to throw out the baby with the bath water.
Regards
DL
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What?
 
Greatest I am said:
Positive discrimination.

The point that I am attempting to make here is that discrimination can be good if done for positive reasons.
The proper choice here is to chose the one of your race. Not because you negatively discriminate against the other but because you positively take the side of your own. If this would not be allowed we would not be able to have team spirit, patriotism and loyalty. We always need to be careful in our choices keeping in mind that we do not want to throw out the baby with the bath water.
Regards
DL
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But Greatest, I'm multi-racial.

Who should I pick?
 
Greatest I am said:
Positive discrimination.

The point that I am attempting to make here is that discrimination can be good if done for positive reasons.
The proper choice here is to chose the one of your race. Not because you negatively discriminate against the other but because you positively take the side of your own. If this would not be allowed we would not be able to have team spirit, patriotism and loyalty. We always need to be careful in our choices keeping in mind that we do not want to throw out the baby with the bath water.
Regards
DL
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Sorry, that argument makes no sense whatsoever. First, as I stated, I don't believe I'd have any particular preference for one race or the other.

But moreover, let me change your situation a little...instead of people of two different races, we have genetically identical twins. I STILL must choose one of the two; does the choice that I end up making indicate that I had some sort of preference for the one I chose? No, of course not. I simply made a choice.

So the argument that in YOUR scenario, the decision I made was predicated on race, is far from a logical conclusion. Heck, if I intentionally chose the one who was a DIFFERENT race, would that demonstrate a "proof" of anything?
 
For that matter, in order to have any validity whatsoever, your question has to essentially assume that everyone in this hypothetical scenario are racially pure; what of those who are mixed race?

A person who's mother is black, and father is white -- they find two people in space, one of whom is white, and one of whom is black. Would you be able to argue that their choice is based on race? Not likely.
 
Greatest I am said:
Positive discrimination.

The point that I am attempting to make here is that discrimination can be good if done for positive reasons.
The proper choice here is to chose the one of your race. Not because you negatively discriminate against the other but because you positively take the side of your own. If this would not be allowed we would not be able to have team spirit, patriotism and loyalty. We always need to be careful in our choices keeping in mind that we do not want to throw out the baby with the bath water.
Regards
DL
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So killing the space person of the other race is "good" (referring to title of thread and situation in OP) because it's not negative discrimination, it's a matter of "positively (taking) the side of your own"? Or am I misinterpreting? Or is this a gag?
 
steverino said:
Pick Obama and leave Hillary in outer space.
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Too much black, not enough Asian.

Gotta cover all of my races!

And if I'm picking in my group, there's gotta be a uterus in there.

(Tiger Woods got a sister maybe? I'll save her. mmmmm....)
 
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