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Old 5th February 2007, 11:24 AM   #1
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Someone want to take my place in the Killtown debate?

I've decided that I am spending way too much time on this debate with Killtown, and I simply can't fit this into my schedule anymore. If I wasn't a full-time student, it would be easier.

Would anyone want to take my place at this debate?

http://z9.invisionfree.com/Sector_G/...p?showtopic=10

In the future I may step back in, but for now I really need to focus on other things.
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Old 5th February 2007, 11:50 AM   #2
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Regardless of what you say, he'll call it a victory for himself.

You're doing a great job, but it is like shouting at a deaf person.
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Old 5th February 2007, 11:50 AM   #3
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I think you've made the right decision. There are far more important things then debating a loser.

Even if no one replaces you, you should stop.

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Old 5th February 2007, 12:41 PM   #4
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Originally Posted by JAStewart View Post
Regardless of what you say, he'll call it a victory for himself.

You're doing a great job, but it is like shouting at a deaf person.
Everybody remember, these debates are not for the benefit of Killtown. They're for the benefit of the crowds of people reading them.

Your job, whoever takes it, is not to convince killtown. Killtown is either a teenager or an adult with a mental illness. The job is to demonstrate, for those who may otherwise be fooled, how ridiculous and roundabout his logic is.

He can declare victory all he wants, but forcing him to back up his bizarre assertions and demonstrating how unsupportable they are, that's the meaningful goal here. Always remember that; these discussions don't happen in a vaccuum. They happen with an audience.
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Old 5th February 2007, 01:07 PM   #5
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Backing Killtown into the corner on the debris was brilliant, by the way. He admits he thinks the debris was planted "that day," presumably after the guy who lives next door left for work... what, three hours before the crash?

120,000 pounds of scattered debris, in millions of pieces, some buried 40 feet in the ground... in a few hours.

Perfect. It just perfectly demonstrates the physical impossibility of it all.
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Old 5th February 2007, 01:14 PM   #6
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Everybody remember, these debates are not for the benefit of Killtown. They're for the benefit of the crowds of people reading them.
While true, that entire board only has 26 members. I doubt if there are any fence sitters.

Go to LC and debate him there...at least there is a larger audience and some people there MAY be able to be swayed. We have at least a couple of converts here now, don't we?
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Old 5th February 2007, 01:18 PM   #7
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Go to LC and debate him there...at least there is a larger audience and some people there MAY be able to be swayed. We have at least a couple of converts here now, don't we?
Be sure that Dylan's naziism doesn't get in the way of the debate...
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Old 5th February 2007, 01:18 PM   #8
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I'm not a member of the board, but I still can read it.
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Old 5th February 2007, 01:26 PM   #9
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Be sure that Dylan's naziism doesn't get in the way of the debate...
I don't think its usually Dylan that bans people. There is one Mod named Quest that is a real nazi. IVXX invited Oliver back and then Quest just banned him again.

And, if you think THAT board is bad, don't even THINK about going to jdx's little slice of insanity...
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Old 5th February 2007, 01:49 PM   #10
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Dylan banned me for asking questions...so much for freedom of speach

And Chippy, the sad thing here is that real life has caught up with you AND that Killtown will take it as a victory.

You can lead a horse to water, but you cant make it drink it! Such an apt saying for the 9/11 cultists!

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Old 5th February 2007, 02:14 PM   #11
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I am eagerly awaiting KT's response to planting 120,000 lbs of debris in three hours. That comes to 11 lbs per second. That indicates a pretty big team of planters with big equipment that they somehow spirited in and out without anyone noticing. You would think at least one person might notice the trucks carting the debris and earthmoving equipment in/out.

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Old 5th February 2007, 02:43 PM   #12
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I would love to take your place in the Killclown debate, but I don't think I would be able to stop myself from frothing at the mouth. Within a few posts I would be screaming at him for being so incredibly freakish in his dogged, persistant stupidity. It would probably go something like this:

KT: So what about the engine in the pond?

Me: It landed there after the plane crashed and exploded.

KT: How did it get there?

Me: When things crash and explode they break up and bits fly off.

KT: But how did that engine end up exactly at that spot in the pond, but the other one didn't?

Me: Are you serious? They were on different sides of the plane.

KT: What plane?

Me: Flt 93

KT: Who says flt 93 crashed?

Me: f,lfkhgvlerugito6FE GKUFNBG(head explodes)
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Old 5th February 2007, 02:47 PM   #13
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And, if you think THAT board is bad, don't even THINK about going to jdx's little slice of insanity...
I registered there, posted a few messages. No one seemed to have a real big problem except JDX. I brought up the subject of old LCF a lot and he wasn't all too thrilled. After that incident he changed my user setting as "guest": Cannot Post, Cannot check private messages. I had no problem with that.

Two weeks later, out of nowhere, he bans my IP and username (during the time Killtown was posting negative things toward him on LCF). I emailed the board admin .. no response. Had e-dog a week later, longtime member of LCF and PFTF, contact him as my middle man. He wanted me to call him on his phone if I wanted the answer to 'why' as if emailing me wasn't good enough.
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Old 5th February 2007, 02:48 PM   #14
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Pdoherty, spittle flying from his thin lips, the thumping pain behind his eyes growing ever more incessant, and with his imagination crawling slowly out of the slime pit of pornography he believes is his reality, writes:

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Thats utter bull. He backed out. due to fear.
http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Ch...showtopic=3416

A kitten just died a painful death.
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Old 5th February 2007, 04:00 PM   #15
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From Pdoherty:

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chippy aka 911debunker is dan waller from minnesota. He was also several other sock puppets here. He is also the guy that pretended to be killtown and called me a pedophile.
It is true that I had a number of socks there, only because it agonized me so to see all the dumb crap they say over there. Many of my bannings were without reason.

It is NOT true that I pretended to be Killtown or called him a pedophile. I wasn't even aware that anyone pretended to be Killtown, and I'm pretty sure Mark Roberts is the one who called him a pedophile....it's even right there in his signature. Besides, he wasn't actually calling him one, he was making a false statement to prove a point.

I'm done with LCF now though. It's useless to debate them.

And if I did back out "due to fear", that would be the fear of not passing my classes. I have a job lined up for when I graduate, and I would very much like to finish on time so that I can start that job and not lose it because I wasted too much time talking to people who would never change their minds anyway.

I do have to say that I agree with David Wong. The point of this debate, or the point of me taking on this debate, was not to convince Killtown that he is wrong. That is simply impossible. The point is to rationally analyze the facts and show clear evidence of who is right and who is wrong so that people with real rationality can decide for themselves who is right. Pdoherty and Killtown most definitely do not make the "rational" list, thus their opinions on who won the debate are meaningless.

Besides, this debate is not over. If anything, I'm waiting until I actually have time to tackle this stuff.

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Old 5th February 2007, 04:07 PM   #16
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It is true that I had a number of socks there, only because it agonized me so to see all the dumb crap they say over there. Many of my bannings were without reason.

It is NOT true that I pretended to be Killtown or called him a pedophile. I wasn't even aware that anyone pretended to be Killtown, and I'm pretty sure Mark Roberts is the one who called him a pedophile....it's even right there in his signature. Besides, he wasn't actually calling him one, he was making a false statement to prove a point.

I'm done with LCF now though. It's useless to debate them.

And if I did back out "due to fear", that would be the fear of not passing my classes. I have a job lined up for when I graduate, and I would very much like to finish on time so that I can start that job and not lose it because I wasted too much time talking to people who would never change their minds anyway.

I do have to say that I agree with David Wong. The point of this debate, or the point of me taking on this debate, was not to convince Killtown that he is wrong. That is simply impossible. The point is to rationally analyze the facts and show clear evidence of who is right and who is wrong so that people with real rationality can decide for themselves who is right. Pdoherty and Killtown most definitely do not make the "rational" list, thus their opinions on who won the debate are meaningless.

Besides, this debate is not over. If anything, I'm waiting until I actually have time to tackle this stuff.
Very true.

Don't lose any sleep over it.

They are a dwindling minority of inadequates who have had their 15 minutes in the sun and will soon be crawling back into the shadows to live meaningless lives....well, until the next major world event occurs to feed their twisted but limited imaginations.
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Old 5th February 2007, 04:14 PM   #17
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Originally Posted by uk_dave View Post
Pdoherty, spittle flying from his thin lips, the thumping pain behind his eyes growing ever more incessant, and with his imagination crawling slowly out of the slime pit of pornography he believes is his reality, writes:



http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Ch...showtopic=3416

A kitten just died a painful death.
It gets worse:

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chippy aka 911debunker is <redacted> from <redacted>. He was also several other sock puppets here. He is also the guy that pretended to be killtown and called me a pedophile.

I wonder if I should report it now i have his name
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You tell me.

He should be afraid now that I am going to report him, and have his name and university and evidence of his internet stalking and defamation.

If your watching chippy you saddo, I mean business
I'm not sure what he's on about here, but clearly he's getting more obsessed.

I wonder exactly who he plans on "reporting" to?
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Old 5th February 2007, 04:55 PM   #18
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First Merc is the crazy stalker, now KillTown?

Who is next?
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Those are D'oh P quotes, Markyx.
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You tell me.

He should be afraid now that I am going to report him, and have his name and university and evidence of his internet stalking and defamation.

If your watching chippy you saddo, I mean business
This from the guy who wrote this.

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No,you would never stalk anybody would you PD ?
And once again, he's projecting onto us:
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This from the side of the aisle that routinely makes death threats against those who dare oppose them.
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Old 6th February 2007, 11:07 AM   #22
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He should be afraid now that I am going to report him, and have his name and university and evidence of his internet stalking and defamation.

If your watching chippy you saddo, I mean business
Who is he going to report me to? Dylan? I say bring it on.
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Who is he going to report me to? Dylan? I say bring it on.
I'm gonna tell! I'm gonna tell!

Oooo, you're in so much trouble!
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Who is he going to report me to? Dylan? I say bring it on.
and why would he report you to your university? what you do on your time isn't the business of your university.
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Originally Posted by JimBenArm View Post
I'm gonna tell! I'm gonna tell!

Oooo, you're in so much trouble!
Nuh uh, it was him!! *points to Mark Roberts and runs away*
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