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JREF Exclusive: Mark Cuban update
Since the announcement of Mark Cuban's endorsement of the fictional movie, Loose Change, a lot of people from both sides pondered on Cuban's motivation in all of this. The local media to everyone's least favorite loud mouth Bill Reilly, questioned as to why someone would promote a video they didn't believe in. Cuban's reasons are freedom of speech and expression, even if it's false. He even claimed to welcome a rebuttal. The response from many debunkers, including myself, called BS.
Good news, a representive of Mark Cuban contacted me earlier this week about a Screw Loose Change tie-in with Loose Change. In other words, opposing forces at work. Obviously one cannot sell a movie with subtitles over original footage as a "debate", but I wouldn't have been contacted by Mark Cuban if he wasn't interested in hearing the what "other side" has to say. I can't give much details, mainly because nothing has really developed yet, but I just want to inform you all that Mark Cuban is well-aware of Screw Loose Change's existence. |
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This seems consistent with his statements that he is just looking to publish all angles of a controversial subject and has no personal vested interested (other than profit).
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I'm really curious on how they will do this, considering the fact that I am not a film maker and I don't plan to be one.
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Get a bunch of professionals, interview them and refute the claims that way I'm guessing. Kind of like FahrenHYPE 9/11 or the BBC documentary on 9/11 CT's.
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Wait, what is true and what is not about the OP?
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None true, apparently.
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He looks like a really hip, together guy. Mark Cuban, that is.
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i always figured cuban was just interested in capitalizing on what he sees as a viable market (im honestly suprised no one did before)
by offering to distribute a rebuttal film as well he will be making money off both sides of the argument, a rather brilliant move, from a financial point of view, with a bit of delicious irony in that the savior who was to bring 9/11 truth to the mainstream may very well bring debunking there as well, lol |
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Yep, and the conversation with the gentleman was pretty entertaining. I've managed to plug in a few things, including Gravy's Loose Change guide and the JREF forums to the representative.
All we have to do is wait. |
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I bet Dylan is real happy about this
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Actually, at the end of the day they still get their money. So I guess it won't be that big of a deal for Dylan, but a lot of the truthers sure will be pissed.
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I think there's good potential for an entertaining documentary, not so much about 9/11 itself, but about the evolution of the conspiracy theories and the Truth Movement and the emergence of debunking communities that rose up in response.
I think such a meta documentary would be much more informative and watchable. I hope he decides to go at it from this angle. |
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Nah, that would involve too much paperwork, plus it has been used so much I think it is in the public domain now. We have a SLC blog, video, forum, myspace page, all by different people, some guy even squatted on screwloosechange.com. I have no problem with people using the name, although it can be a bit confusing on occassion. |
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Make the film. Donate ALL profits to recognized 9/11 charities.
Then watch Avery implode as he chooses between the moral low ground, or giving away all that money he's hoping to make. |
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I think the way to do this would be to involve a professional documentary maker and act as a consultant/researcher on the project. If you can get a rough idea of a budget, I'm sure there would be plenty of filmakers out there who would want to participate. It wouldn't do any harm to contact some people to ask for advice, I'd suggest:
1. Penn and Teller, or the main P&TBS! production company, The Wolper Organization (address can be found here and here) 2. Mike Rudin, series producer of "The Conspiracy Files", via the BBC (possibly leave a comment on his blog) 3. Jon Ronson - via PM (he's a member of this forum) 4. Savage Pictures - who made Farenhype 9/11. Good luck! |
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I will volunteer to help with the alternate soundtrack commentary. Get MarkyX, Brainster, Gravy and I into the studio together, I am sure we could come up with something to say.
It would be more interesting than most of the commentary tracks, where you get to hear directors discuss how they decided to frame shots for 2 hours. |
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Isn't this really really a joke?
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Citizen Merc had the gall to bring this news to the attention on the Losers for Truth. The threads gone already though. I guess Dylan didn't want the surprise spoiled.
Here's all I saw before it vanished. (The OP was just a repost of the OP here)
Originally Posted by LUCUS
Originally Posted by thehighwaymanq
Originally Posted by Reggie_perrin
Originally Posted by dylan avery
Originally Posted by Citizen Merc
Originally Posted by dylan avery
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HAHAHa I gotta say as a truther, thats hilarious.
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So Mark Cuban subreptitious reaches for the rights of
Loose Change 3 just to distribute the follow up rebutting Dylan's movie. And he forbids to spread the movie on YouTube, Google and Torrent's... This is brilliant! ![]() |
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