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Kent Hovind in solitary confinement?
In the last month Hovind's appeal was denied and he moved from a minimum security prison to a medium security prison. Now according to a posting by Paul Abramson (a Hovind supporter/operator of Hovind's blog):
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Brother Hovind got in trouble with the chaplain in the federal prison where he was previously held.
I've been wondering what infraction Hovind committed to get himself thrown into the hole. The moral of this story is don't mess with the Chaplain. |
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Is there any outside verification to back this up? After all, we know how much Christians are suckers for a story of martyrdom... with emphasis on the word "story."
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According to the Federal Bureau of Prisons' status on Hovind: http://www.bop.gov/iloc2/InmateFinde...Age=&x=19&y=12
Hovind is listed as being located at TALLAHASSEE FCI. According to the Federal Bureau of Prisons:
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Knowing Kent, he'll start trying to convert the cockroaches and rats.
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If he really was in solitary confinement, it would likely be for his own protection, as the other criminals would probably be trying to punch him in his big, fat, lying mouth just to shut him up. Heck, I'm tempted to commit a crime just so I can go visit him on the inside and punch him myself!
But it's 99.99% certain he isn't. ![]() lol... yeah, it sure looks like he's doing hard time to me.. |
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So he started arguing with a prisoner that disagreed with him, and before long there were fourteen people in the room. Sounds like a prison warden's nightmare.
This guy is so convinced he's right that he thinks that the normal rules of human interaction don't apply to him. When even the chaplain is telling you your going about things in the wrong way you should stop and think. |
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Maybe we should all write him letters saying he should demand justice from his jailers all the time, 24/7. Knowing that he CAN keep this sort of annoyance up at this rate, will that make the probability of parole for him slide?
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Perhaps he's been moved to solitary confinement as it looked like several of his fellow inmates would have their sentences overturned based on the concept of "cruel and unusual punishment" i.e. being subjected to Hovind!
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From the blog entries it appears that Dr Hovind's mail is being reviewed by the guards prior to him receiving it. They will block any obvious attempt to manipulate him in this way. However, I suspect there are those clever enough to encode their messages in Biblical terms that Hovind has the background to understand.
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Can you imagine it?
You're doing 2-5 for honest tax evasion and find yourself sharing a cell with Hovind? Murder would be the rational choice. |
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United States Penitentiary (USP) in Atlanta, Georgia
According to the FBP inmate finder, Hovind has been moved to United States Penitentiary (USP) in Atlanta, Georgia. That means hard time: USP is "high security."
Looks like Hovind messed up big time in prison as well. |
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Federal Correctional Institution (FCI) in Edgefield
According to the Federal Bureau of Prisons' status on Hovind (http://www.bop.gov/iloc2/InmateFinde...Age=&x=19&y=12) he was moved to Federal Correctional Institution (FCI) in Edgefield, South Carolina (a medium security prison).
Whatever he did in prison, it couldn't have made the FBP happy. In Hovind's most recent blog post, he asked, "Why have you done this?" |
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In one of his recent blog entries, he makes references how he will never stop fighting to close federal prisons because of what they do to families.
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It should be noted that Paul Abramson (the person who runs Hovind's blog) runs http://www.creationism.org/ and according to his bio he's friends with Carl Baugh, and runs a program at Master's Divinity School (an unaccredited school that awards PhDs for creationism).
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Look for a takeover bid by a fellow creationist of Hovind's "business interests" in the near future. No-one demonstrates hypocritical greed like fundies...
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He's out of solitary now, in a prison camp in South Carolina. His latest blog entry contains more evidence of delusional behaviour (which may or may not differ from the delusional behaviour he showed before his incarceration). It's a conversation between Kent & Yahweh (described in the blog as an e-mail exchange, but sounds more like a phone call if you ask me). My favourite bit:
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Gee, Kent, way to make sure the big guy isn't on the hook, no matter what happens! |
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Do not put Dr. in front of his name!
How about "Dr." LOL |
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When I read that recent entry I really was speechless. He is so delusional, and refuses to acknowledge he is wrong in a way that words cannot express disgust. His supporters are no better, claiming he was railroaded by the government and will be released "soon."
This conviction was 15+ years in the making. Had the government pursued him for his 1996 perjury, his DrDino website would have never been able to solicit "donations" for his non-Church/not non-profit backyard amusement park. One of the positive things about this convinction and subsequent claims are that the objective viewer can see just how out of touch with reality he really is. If Hovind truly believes he is innocent he probably should have presented a defense in court rather than resting his case without calling witnesses. His further appeals should be interesting since he didn't even try to defend his acts. |
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Yes, good olde Patriot "University." Let me quote a section about Darwin from his "dissertation":
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He's putting words in God's mouth? I beg to differ that this has humbled him. |
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On the home front, Hovind's property has some very serious liens, and it appears that Kent's son, Eric Hovind has some interesting infractions as well.
http://www.clerk.co.escambia.fl.us/ |
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I've not really followed this, but I'm sure this is all because he is being persecuted for proving the lie of evolution and the part about being a lying cheating swindler will be forgotten by him.
Wow. I don't read many dissertations but that feels grade schoolish. |
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