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Another Browne reading tied to the Hornbeck case?

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SHOW: The Montel Williams Show (5:00 PM ET) - SYND
November 5, 2002 Tuesday
LENGTH: 7568 words
HEADLINE: Vanished! With Sylvia Browne; guests discuss loved ones who have vanished and ask Sylvia for help
HOST: Montel Williams
EXECUTIVE PRODUCERS: Montel Williams, Diane Rappoport
VANISHED! WITH SYLVIA BROWNE
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(Excerpt from upcoming segment)

JODI (Her Brother Disappeared On February 15, 2001): So I'm sitting in the chair, it's about 2:00 in the morning and I hear a voice like somebody's right behind me and it says, 'Don't answer the door if somebody bangs on the door.' I didn't answer it. I was too scared to move. Was that him?

Ms. BROWNE: Uh-huh. Yeah. They--they didn't really give him...

WILLIAMS: But if Stevie said don't answer the door...

Ms. BROWNE: Yeah.

WILLIAMS: ...then who was at the door?

Ms. BROWNE: It was that--the nut case, that, you know--see, he was trying to protect you.

(End of excerpt)

(Announcements)

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(Excerpts from videotape)

JODI: My brother Steven has a great sense of humor. He loves to draw and he loves animals. I helped raise him so we were always very close. The last day I saw him we had gone shopping. He bought a book that day and never got to read it. One night last February, Steven asked my dad if he could go outside and play and that was the last time anyone in our family saw him. Steven had his two dogs with him. They came home a few days later without Stevie. We've searched every gully, every pond, every drain pipe for Stevie. NASCAR put his face on a car during a race hoping to get some answers. The whole community is still searching for Stevie. I don't want to leave 'cause I want to be here in case Stevie comes home.

WILLIAMS: Please welcome Steven's sister Jodi to the show. And--and I have to say this is one of those kind of cases where I would think that somebody--in s--in some way, shape or form, somebody in the neighborhood may have seen something and don't even realize what it is they saw. This young man was seen at a friend's house, correct, at 8 PM. Left the friend's house with his two dogs, walking home.

JODI: Yes. Well, actually, three days later we found one of the dogs.

WILLIAMS: You found one of the dogs.

JODI: About a mile away from the house. It was in some wooded areas eating garbage. We bring the dog home, and about two days later, the other dog walked home. It was real early in the morning so no one saw which way she came from. So she--she--when she came home, she woke somebody up and then everybody got up 'cause she was home, checked her for injuries and she was fine. But Stevie never came home. We just want to know where he's at, if he's alive, if--he's not?

Ms. BROWNE: Not alive.

JODI: Do we know who took him?

Ms. BROWNE: This is someone that used to work around this area and what bothers me is I don't know whether he was a--did something with trees, you know, like a--I don't know. Not necessarily a lumberjack, but you know, tree trimming or whatever.

WILLIAMS: Pruning trees.

Ms. BROWNE: Yeah. And he's the one that took him.

JODI: I have a question. A couple months after he came up missing, I was sitting on my chair and I had a wall behind me. It's probably about 2:00 in the morning. And since Stevie came up missing, we had went and purchased a firearm because somebody was like--we felt like somebody was messing around our house at night. So I'm sitting in the chair, it's about 2:00 in the morning and I hear a voice like somebody's right behind me and it says, 'Don't answer the door if somebody bangs on the door.' I didn't answer it. I was too scared to move. Was that him?

Ms. BROWNE: Uh-huh. Yeah. They--they didn't really give him...

WILLIAMS: But if Stevie said don't answer the door...

Ms. BROWNE: Yeah.

WILLIAMS: ...who was at the door?

Ms. BROWNE: It was that--the nut case, that--you know--see, he was trying to protect you. But see what bothers me and I don't want to scare you, this guy is still roaming around the area. So I'd look at anybody that trims trees.

JODI: I have another question. The guy across the street from us, the house he supposedly left at 8, trimmed trees and he's now dead. Did he know anything about it?

Ms. BROWNE: Yes. He did.

JODI: He did? This person, does he know where we live and stuff? I mean, is he like going to do it again?

Ms. BROWNE: Well, he's not stalking you, but see, the thing that always worries me when you get too close to a case like this, I'm--I think that was a warning. You don't want--look, with a psychotic you can never tell. You see what I'm saying?

JODI: Where's he at, though?

Ms. BROWNE: A crime of...

JODI: Where's Stevie at?

Ms. BROWNE: Listen to me. It's like--it's a wooded area and then it slopes down for some reason into a creek area. You know what I mean? In other words, a sharp slope down. It's not that far from where you are. I...

JODI: I had a feeling it was that one the day he came up missing.

Ms. BROWNE: So you--are...

JODI: That night I kept saying, 'Let's go there.' We went there.

Ms. BROWNE: Please, honey, let me finish.

WILLIAMS: Has anybody inspected it? Yes. Go ahead, Sylvia.

Ms. BROWNE: No, no.

WILLIAMS: Let her finish for a second.

Ms. BROWNE: You--are you aware of the big sharp slope and the creek? OK. And the little spindly trees that are there. That's where I'd look.

JODI: Did the police--have they talked to this guy? Do they know anything about him?

Ms. BROWNE: No, I don't think they know. But--see the--the--and of course, unfortunately, the guy that could have told something is dead, but there's still gotta be this guy out there by the name of--I mean, how many people trimming trees by the name of...

JODI: What's his race?

Ms. BROWNE: No, he's Caucasian, honey. he's Caucasian.

WILLIAMS: All right. Let me take a little break. We'll be back right after this.

(Announcements)
...

Current news:

Michael Devlin is now a suspect in five cases of missing boys
May 17, 2007 06:40 AM EDT
By: Crystal Britt

Just how far does Michael Devlin's trail lead? A police task force is looking into five cases of missing children, wondering if Devlin could be responsible. The five cases all involve the disappearance of young boys, including one in Illinois, three in Missouri, and one in Western Michigan. It's that case in Michigan that's raising a lot of questions. Police now know Devlin has strong ties to that part of the country.

"It's very eerie to think this guy, you've watched him on TV and he could possibly know after six years where your brother is." Jodi Bopp gets cold chills just thinking Michael Devlin could have kidnapped her brother Steven Kraft.

The 12-year-old went missing in February of 2001 in Benton Township, Michigan. A police task force now says, as a boy, Devlin's family would rent a cottage in Pentwater, Michigan: just two hours north of Benton Township. "I think the similarities are there as to what he did in Missouri could have happened up here", said Benton Township Police Chief Vince Fetke. "This guy was in Michigan, the highway was more than a mile and a half from our home. Then to come to find out he had kidnapped two other children for sure."
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Source: http://www.kfvs12.com/Global/story.asp?S=6527164&nav=8H3x

While the Montel transcript does not give the last names, the first names all match (the victim is Steve and the sister is Jodi), the missing date is the same (February 15, 2001) and the description involving the dogs matches:

Steven was last seen playing with his family's two dogs in the 2100 block of Holly Drive in Benton Harbor, Michigan on February 15, 2001, between seven and eight p.m. He was about half a block away from his residence in the 2100 block of Holly Drive at the time of his disappearance. He has never been heard from again. Steven's mother was preparing dinner while he was out with their dogs and reported his disappearance afterwards.

Steven's older dog returned to his family's house shortly after Steven vanished
. The dog apparently led his owners to a nearby pond, but no evidence of Steven's whereabouts was located in the area. His puppy was found some time afterwards, near a creek.

Source: http://www.findmissingkids.com/foru...iew=next&sid=65fba3178aef690cb0270d15ddcec8ea
Source: http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/k/kraft_steven.html
 
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Well, the police do this alot. When a criminal is caught in one case, he becomes a suspect in 10 others.
 
Yes, but it is an interesting tidbit tied to Browne that no one has mentioned. We'll have to see how the investigation unfolds.
 
I knew Devlin was a suspect in the Kraft case, as the child lived in a part of the state that I know pretty well.

What I didn't know was that Browne had a chance to harass these people as well. Kelly might know for sure if this was the Kraft family, but it seems pretty obvious.

What I want to know is what they are talking about. A tree trimmer died? Or a tree trimmer was involved in the disappearance? There was a non-Caucasian tree trimmer nearby at the time of the disappearance, but Jodi should be looking for a Caucasian tree trimmer?

Huh?
 
Here is a quick accounting:

Steven is dead; it had been almost a year from the time he disappeared until this show aired, not a trace had (or has) been found. Safe assumption on Browne’s part.

The abductor use to work in the area; pretty open ended since the abductor had to be in the area for the abduction

The abductor did something with trees; pretty open ended with her “tree trimming or whatever” comment. “Whatever” could include…once planted a tree, once looked at a tree, etc?

Unknown voice tells Jodi “don’t answer the door if someone bangs on the door”, Browne claims it was “that nut case"; strictly addressing Browne’s comment, safe claim since its pretty hard to prove otherwise.

Steven is buried in a wooded area, that slopes downward towards a creek; TBD, though given the area a safe claim to make

The neighbor across the street, who was dead at the time of the show, knew something about the abduction; safe assumption on Browne’s part…not like anyone can prove otherwise.

Everyone of these claims, or “visions” is so open ended or otherwise can not be proved it almost guarantees the ~85% success rate she claims assuming Steven is eventually found dead (which the odds favor).
 
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If the abductor had easy access to a boat, it would be a good bet that Steven is at the bottom of Lake Michigan.
 
Chrsitine,

You asked me to take a look at this thread, and I had prior. I don't know this case or the family at all, and had never heard of it until after Shawn was found. If there's something specific you wanted my comments on, please let me know. Thanks.

Kelly
 
No, just thought you might have had some contact with these people. As they did not give their full name on Montel, I suspect they don't feel like being contacted by a bunch a skeptics.
 
I generally let Robert know about families I know who have stories posted about them. (when it comes to SB anyway) I have made contact with a few that I know to see if they'd be willing to tell their stories. I try to keep an eye on the threads here about missing persons.

With an average of 105,000 open missing persons at any given time in the US, the odds are against me knowing them.

Please feel free to check in with me if a new case is posted and you haven't seen me around.

Thanks so much!
 
Thanks Kelly. This one is (literally) close to home for me, so I was unhappily surprised to see that these people had been put through the Browne wringer.

I don't know these people personally either, just knew of them.
 

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