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Every member of the truth movement believes in some theory that is either not based on facts, or in worst case, is outright insane.
Like R.Mackey said in the AE-thread, it's not even worth debating someone's credentials, if the person believes in mini-nukes at WTC. This post is meant to show, what prominent truth movement figures believe in. This could be useful in showing, how out of this world these people sometimes are.
This is a start. Links could be added to each person to verify the claims. More people could be added. More claims could be added to each person, especially DRG, Dylan and Alex Jones. But this is a preliminary version
Judy Wood - Believes Directed-Energy weapons were used in the destruction of the WTC. Ignores the fact that the space beam would require impossible amounts of energy.
James "Jim" Fetzer - Supports Judy Wood and her Space Beam research. Says Judy Wood is the most qualified person to analyze WTC. Believes in no plane at the Pentagon -theory. Has one witness to support this theory. This witness didn't even see the actual event. Ignores all the other witnesses, the DNA evidence, the impact damage, debris found at the scene and all the other evidence supporting the fact that Flight 77 hit the Pentagon. Numerous other dubious claims not mentioned here.
Richard Gage - Claims the foreknowledge of the collapses by NYPD and FDNY is proof of controlled demolition. In other words, he claims NYPD and FDNY have knowledge of the controlled demolition and murder of 3000 citizens, but remain silent. Says controlled demolition is clearly outside the scope of his training and expertise, yet he also says there is a solid and convincing case proving all three buildings were destroyed by controlled demolitions.
David Ray Griffin - Doubts the authenticity of all the on-flight phone calls. Believes in controlled demolition. Believes some of the alleged hijackers are still alive. Says no plane hit the Pentagon. Supports numerous claims not mentioned here. Ignores all the evidence against his theories. Has admitted one mistake, after it was pointed to him by a fellow truther.
Kevin Barrett - Believes there were no Islamic terrorists involved. Tried to find one alive hijacker in Morocco, but did no research beforehand. Only when in Morocco, he found out the person he is looking for may not even be in the same country. A simple call to the embassies and airlines from the US could have told him that. Ignores all the evidence.
Webster Tarpley - Believes there were no Islamic terrorists involved. Says people from the caves couldn't do that. Accuses Bush and Cheney. Ignores all the evidence.
Steven Jones - Claims thermite/thermate brought the towers down. Got his dust samples from one single source (a truther), and this dust was exposed to all surrounding conditions for a minimum of nine days before collected. Ignores all the natural explanations for his findings. Ignores the fact that thermite cuts downwards.
Dylan Avery - Where do we start. Ignores all criticism. Bans all people from his forums who even politely disagree with his theories. Compares his efforts to the likes of Nelson Mandela, Rosa Parks and others. Has said Pentagon is the easiest sell. Says his movie includes errors and dubious claims. Has ridiculed and laughed at the story of passengers and crew surrendering to the threat of boxcutters. Brags about the money being made off the busted Virgin Airlines deal. We could write pages about him alone. Film mates with Jason Bermas and Korey Rowe. His new film is going to be produced by Alex Jones (see Alex Jones).
Jason Bermas - Said the firefighters were paid off. Then later corrected himself by saying a jedi mind trick was pulled on him. Otherwise, see Dylan Avery.
Korey Rowe - Says errors were intentionally put into Loose Change. Otherwise, see Dylan Avery.
Alex Jones - The father figure. Source to numerous conspiracy claims. Has implied the FDNY were complicit of murder. Says London bombings were orchestrated by British intelligence. Says global warming is a hoax. Says AIDS was orchestrated by the high powers of the world. Says the Oklahoma bombing was orchestrated by the FBI. Says the 1993 WTC bombing was orchestrated by the FBI. Says there is a New World Order, an Illuminati, an evil entity of powerful people that control and dominate the entire world. Says the NWO/Illuminati leave signs and give clues of their work, but are so arrogant they just don't care if someone (Alex Jones) notices. Says there is a plan to get rid of most of the population in the world. Claims all the terrorists are patsies. Speculated the Virginia Tech shootings being a government black-op. Producer of Loose Change Final Cut.
Paul Joseph Watson & Steve Watson - Work for and share the thoughts of Alex Jones.
Kevin Ryan - Claims UL certified the WTC steel. Says it's impossible for the towers to have collapsed without controlled demolition. Tested water when working for UL, before being fired.
Doug Plumb - Believes in mini-nukes at WTC. Supports Judy Wood. Is a recruiter for Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth.
William Rodriguez - Has changed his story numerous times. Description of the event went from "rumble like moving furniture" to "explosion that knocked you in the air". Claims he knew when the plane hit, eventhough he was in a closed basement. Will not answer any questions regarding his story. Will not debate his critics. Claims he's on a no-fly list, but is going to Europe for the summer and was in Venezuela recently. How does he make those trips? Recently made the statement "I am 9/11".
Pilots for 9/11 Truth - Claim the Flight 77 flight data recorder found at the Pentagon rubble proves, that Flight 77 did not hit the Pentagon. If the FDR data is correct, Flight 77 did hit the Pentagon. If the FDR data is faked, why did they fake it not to show a hit. Why not fake it to show the plane hit the Pentagon. And this FDR data is what they base their whole theory on.
Like R.Mackey said in the AE-thread, it's not even worth debating someone's credentials, if the person believes in mini-nukes at WTC. This post is meant to show, what prominent truth movement figures believe in. This could be useful in showing, how out of this world these people sometimes are.
This is a start. Links could be added to each person to verify the claims. More people could be added. More claims could be added to each person, especially DRG, Dylan and Alex Jones. But this is a preliminary version
Judy Wood - Believes Directed-Energy weapons were used in the destruction of the WTC. Ignores the fact that the space beam would require impossible amounts of energy.
James "Jim" Fetzer - Supports Judy Wood and her Space Beam research. Says Judy Wood is the most qualified person to analyze WTC. Believes in no plane at the Pentagon -theory. Has one witness to support this theory. This witness didn't even see the actual event. Ignores all the other witnesses, the DNA evidence, the impact damage, debris found at the scene and all the other evidence supporting the fact that Flight 77 hit the Pentagon. Numerous other dubious claims not mentioned here.
Richard Gage - Claims the foreknowledge of the collapses by NYPD and FDNY is proof of controlled demolition. In other words, he claims NYPD and FDNY have knowledge of the controlled demolition and murder of 3000 citizens, but remain silent. Says controlled demolition is clearly outside the scope of his training and expertise, yet he also says there is a solid and convincing case proving all three buildings were destroyed by controlled demolitions.
David Ray Griffin - Doubts the authenticity of all the on-flight phone calls. Believes in controlled demolition. Believes some of the alleged hijackers are still alive. Says no plane hit the Pentagon. Supports numerous claims not mentioned here. Ignores all the evidence against his theories. Has admitted one mistake, after it was pointed to him by a fellow truther.
Kevin Barrett - Believes there were no Islamic terrorists involved. Tried to find one alive hijacker in Morocco, but did no research beforehand. Only when in Morocco, he found out the person he is looking for may not even be in the same country. A simple call to the embassies and airlines from the US could have told him that. Ignores all the evidence.
Webster Tarpley - Believes there were no Islamic terrorists involved. Says people from the caves couldn't do that. Accuses Bush and Cheney. Ignores all the evidence.
Steven Jones - Claims thermite/thermate brought the towers down. Got his dust samples from one single source (a truther), and this dust was exposed to all surrounding conditions for a minimum of nine days before collected. Ignores all the natural explanations for his findings. Ignores the fact that thermite cuts downwards.
Dylan Avery - Where do we start. Ignores all criticism. Bans all people from his forums who even politely disagree with his theories. Compares his efforts to the likes of Nelson Mandela, Rosa Parks and others. Has said Pentagon is the easiest sell. Says his movie includes errors and dubious claims. Has ridiculed and laughed at the story of passengers and crew surrendering to the threat of boxcutters. Brags about the money being made off the busted Virgin Airlines deal. We could write pages about him alone. Film mates with Jason Bermas and Korey Rowe. His new film is going to be produced by Alex Jones (see Alex Jones).
Jason Bermas - Said the firefighters were paid off. Then later corrected himself by saying a jedi mind trick was pulled on him. Otherwise, see Dylan Avery.
Korey Rowe - Says errors were intentionally put into Loose Change. Otherwise, see Dylan Avery.
Alex Jones - The father figure. Source to numerous conspiracy claims. Has implied the FDNY were complicit of murder. Says London bombings were orchestrated by British intelligence. Says global warming is a hoax. Says AIDS was orchestrated by the high powers of the world. Says the Oklahoma bombing was orchestrated by the FBI. Says the 1993 WTC bombing was orchestrated by the FBI. Says there is a New World Order, an Illuminati, an evil entity of powerful people that control and dominate the entire world. Says the NWO/Illuminati leave signs and give clues of their work, but are so arrogant they just don't care if someone (Alex Jones) notices. Says there is a plan to get rid of most of the population in the world. Claims all the terrorists are patsies. Speculated the Virginia Tech shootings being a government black-op. Producer of Loose Change Final Cut.
Paul Joseph Watson & Steve Watson - Work for and share the thoughts of Alex Jones.
Kevin Ryan - Claims UL certified the WTC steel. Says it's impossible for the towers to have collapsed without controlled demolition. Tested water when working for UL, before being fired.
Doug Plumb - Believes in mini-nukes at WTC. Supports Judy Wood. Is a recruiter for Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth.
William Rodriguez - Has changed his story numerous times. Description of the event went from "rumble like moving furniture" to "explosion that knocked you in the air". Claims he knew when the plane hit, eventhough he was in a closed basement. Will not answer any questions regarding his story. Will not debate his critics. Claims he's on a no-fly list, but is going to Europe for the summer and was in Venezuela recently. How does he make those trips? Recently made the statement "I am 9/11".
Pilots for 9/11 Truth - Claim the Flight 77 flight data recorder found at the Pentagon rubble proves, that Flight 77 did not hit the Pentagon. If the FDR data is correct, Flight 77 did hit the Pentagon. If the FDR data is faked, why did they fake it not to show a hit. Why not fake it to show the plane hit the Pentagon. And this FDR data is what they base their whole theory on.
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