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Old 23rd June 2007, 04:54 PM   #1
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Barry Jenning's Tale

So the "big news" from last week was not big news at all. Its is the old story of Barry Jennings and how he went up to OEM in WTC 7, saw the office evacuated, came down, saw bodies, and had to crawl through a hole to get out. He heard "explosions".

Ive listened to the parts of the interview with Dylan has released (he has kept the rest under raps for LC:FC....because he is such a Patriot).

In the short segment, never does Jennings state the times when he went in the building, when he reached OEM, when he ehard explosions, when he went back down. Alex Jones claims it was ALL BEFORE the second plane hit.

Somehow, someway, Alex Jones and Dylan Avery failed to read this news piece which includes Jenning's story:

http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/c....jsp?item=a903

In it..it reveals the time line of when Jennings went where, why the OEM was evacuated, etc etc.

How convenient for AJ and DA to have missed this story. I am not a very smart man, but if I could find this, then so could they.
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Old 23rd June 2007, 05:07 PM   #2
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it was fabricated. Barry doesn't exist
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Old 23rd June 2007, 09:31 PM   #3
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you are fabricated...you don't exist...but please continue to post nice pictures of Selma.

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Just out of interest, I emailed Mike Hess and Mike Newman about this to see if I could get a more detailed description, no response as of yet.
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Originally Posted by parky76 View Post
So the "big news" from last week was not big news at all. Its is the old story of Barry Jennings and how he went up to OEM in WTC 7, saw the office evacuated, came down, saw bodies, and had to crawl through a hole to get out. He heard "explosions".

Ive listened to the parts of the interview with Dylan has released (he has kept the rest under raps for LC:FC....because he is such a Patriot).

In the short segment, never does Jennings state the times when he went in the building, when he reached OEM, when he ehard explosions, when he went back down. Alex Jones claims it was ALL BEFORE the second plane hit.

Somehow, someway, Alex Jones and Dylan Avery failed to read this news piece which includes Jenning's story:

http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/c....jsp?item=a903

In it..it reveals the time line of when Jennings went where, why the OEM was evacuated, etc etc.

How convenient for AJ and DA to have missed this story. I am not a very smart man, but if I could find this, then so could they.
Dylan has to make money and do it selling fraud. Why would Dylan want to mess up his story? Those who buy what Dylan is selling are just too dumb to know better. Seems Alex Jones is just as dumb.

Poor Dylan, a fraud, or just real dumb. He should have saved his money.
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you are fabricated...you don't exist...but please continue to post nice pictures of Selma.

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Old 24th June 2007, 08:48 AM   #7
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Obviously, Do It Again Dyll Weed Dylan didn't do his homework! The times do NOT match up at all. I wonder what agenda Mr. Jennings has? To be interviewed ON CAMERA...knowing that his story does NOT add up.


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doood!! I was saving that one for later! For this display of arrogance I will now break into your house and tear one of your household pets in half.
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Take my wife .. please !

ETA... sorry about posting that one ... I'll refrain from posting the others
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Old 24th June 2007, 09:15 AM   #10
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Obviously, Do It Again Dyll Weed Dylan didn't do his homework! The times do NOT match up at all. I wonder what agenda Mr. Jennings has? To be interviewed ON CAMERA...knowing that his story does NOT add up.
I wonder if Mr Jennings even knows. It wouldn't be too surprising if the whole interview was a out of context deal.
It would fit as far as not wanting to release his name. Jennings doesn't seem like the type that listens to Jones or would even know who Avery was.

PS Ever see any truthers in MA? I'm from MA also and can't find them.
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Originally Posted by parky76 View Post
Somehow, someway, Alex Jones and Dylan Avery failed to read this news piece which includes Jenning's story:

http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/c....jsp?item=a903
I love it when one truth site debunks another!
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Old 24th June 2007, 09:36 AM   #12
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PS Ever see any truthers in MA? I'm from MA also and can't find them.
There are several of them, I had a list of the contacts at one time. They held a demonstration once a few months ago. Got ZERO press.

Just an FYI :
I was banned from LC Forum last week when I attempted to ask for the times of Mr. Jennings visit to WTC -7. (3 minutes after posting)

I came to work today and decided to make another name and start my own thread under their "Skeptics" forum. I made the name "Barry Jennings" and was able to start a thread. I put in a time line and asked if anyone could actually explain it.

Well I've been banned twice with two posts!!! WOO HOO . 2 names, 2 posts, 2 bannings!

I saved my thread/post as a WEB page...but Im not sure how to get it uploaded on here! help?
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[color=black]Hello everyone. As my first post in here I would like to bring up a couple things.

First of all, I was kind of ticked off the other day when I heard of an eyewitness to bombs in WTC - 7.

After reading what Alex Jones posted, I decided to do some research and found quite easily that the secret witness is non other than
Barry Jennings.

What I don't understand is:

#1 Why the secret?

#2 Why did he change his story?

If you read his original statements, i don't see this story as adding up.

Lets address this time line and please tell me where he heard these explosions!

1- Deputy OEM Commissioner ordered the complete evacuation of WTC 7 at 9:44 AM INCLUDING the 23rd flr. OEM Center.

2- Jennings arrives at the 23rd floor to an abandoned OEM center. Makea a few calls and then is told to evacuate.

3- I have yet to find a time as to when he arrived at the 23rd floor. But lets assume it took at least 5 minutes to evacuate the OEM center at 9:44. We are now looking at about 10 minutes to 10. 9:50AM

4- So Lets say Jennings arrived EXACTLY 5 minutes after OEM evacuated. That puts us at 9:55.

6- Jenning makes a few calls and is told to evacuate. approx.1-2 Minutes. That puts us at 9:57

7- Jennings then heads to the elevator and is waiting, 9:59AM WTC2 collapses the lights flicker inside WTC-7

8- Jennings was waiting for an unspecified amount of time, learned that the elevator did not work so headed for the staircase.

9- When Jennings got down to the 6th floor it was 10:28am. WTC1 collapsed. Jennings and the gentleman he was with were stuck.

So, although we don't have a conclusive time as to how long Jennings was waiting for the elevator or how long it took him to get down the stairs...the fact is. Jennings explosions he heard were WTC2 collapsing.

You can find the times in the NIST report: Before you crap on the NIST report. This is the version Mr. Jennings GAVE!

http://wtc.nist.gov/NISTNCSTAR1-8.pdf

Even IF Jennings remembered anything different from when he did his counltess interviews and his testimony to NIST...he claims it was AFTER he reached the empty OEM, and AFTER he made a couple phone calls. This time line puts him right at the collapse time of WTC2. explaining the explosions he heard.





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Old 24th June 2007, 09:58 AM   #17
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Thanks for this post guys. I was trying to look up this info the hard way.
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Originally Posted by Mr.Herbert View Post

#1 Why the secret?

#2 Why did he change his story?

Could anyone direct me to his original statement?

I came across mr Jennings just now, when a truther posted this here article as evidence WTC7 was CD:

http://www.opednews.com/articles/gen...gs_3a_wtc_.htm

especially this passage:

Quote:
At that point he made some phone calls, and an un-named individual told them to "leave, and leave right away". Jennings and Hess then proceeded to the stairs, and made it to level 6, when there was an explosion, and the stairwell collapsed from under their feet, Mr. Jennings was actually hanging, and had to climb back up. They made it back up to level 8, where Barry Jennings had a view of the twin towers, both buildings were still standing. This is an important detail, as many debunkers have used Mr. Jennings statements out of context to claim the damage came to WTC 7 from the towers collapsing, not the case according, to Mr. Jennings.
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I was sent this link today via email:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...32201010&hl=en

I can't listen to the audio at the moment, but why do I get another feeling it's been edited or taken out of context?
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Old 26th June 2007, 12:10 PM   #20
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I still dont get this Jennings story. Does he claim that the WTC7 lobby was hit by an explosion, with dead bodys about, prior to the fall of WTC1 and 2, as the link I got claimed? Or didn't he? Was he misquoted? Has he changed his story over time?

What?

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I thought I'd post this. Its kind of a side point.

Many people in the lobby did not leave the building at around 9:30-9:45. They moved to the southern corner of the building. There were at least 30 when the first building collapsed.

Check out the VERY interesting testimony by J. Peruggia.


http://www.nistreview.org/EMS1.pdf

Its a large document, you'll have to search for "J. Peruggia" and the number "7".

Sorry I don't have time to cut and paste. But please check it out.
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Originally Posted by SLOB View Post
I still dont get this Jennings story. Does he claim that the WTC7 lobby was hit by an explosion, with dead bodys about, prior to the fall of WTC1 and 2, as the link I got claimed? Or didn't he? Was he misquoted? Has he changed his story over time?

What?

/S
I suppect he's been misquoted, or at least carefully lead and edited. The lobby of WTC 7 was used as a triage centre from the WTC 1 & 2 so it is quite possible that there were bodies in there without them having been killed there, and we already know that the "explosion" and damage was caused by the building being hit by WTC 1 as it collapsed.
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Bump, to say "Good Work" to noob, Mr. Herbert....

Apparently Dylan's not going to let anyone question the source or the timeline, although he let slip the name, himself, the dumb putz! He (and more likely IVXX) have been sitting on the two or three news threads and deleting posts that make him look insane as quickly as they can. e^n was getting dizzy trying to keep up with the his disappearing posts, I think!
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Bump, to say "Good Work" to noob, Mr. Herbert....

Apparently Dylan's not going to let anyone question the source or the timeline, although he let slip the name, himself, the dumb putz! He (and more likely IVXX) have been sitting on the two or three news threads and deleting posts that make him look insane as quickly as they can. e^n was getting dizzy trying to keep up with the his disappearing posts, I think!
Yay for freedom of speech and "ask questions demand answers!"
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Why would the evil conspirators set off an explosion in WTC7 before the twin towers collapsed? To test the explosive stuff? To get everyone extra specially antsy in case planes hitting buildings hadn't already done it enough? Because Silverstein is so evil he likes blowing stuff up out of order just for the heck of it? Because a dumb associate hit the wrong button from the OEM while trying to answer a cellphone, drink coffee and ogle the Playmate of the month at the same time?
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Why would the evil conspirators set off an explosion in WTC7 before the twin towers collapsed? To test the explosive stuff? To get everyone extra specially antsy in case planes hitting buildings hadn't already done it enough? Because Silverstein is so evil he likes blowing stuff up out of order just for the heck of it? Because a dumb associate hit the wrong button from the OEM while trying to answer a cellphone, drink coffee and ogle the Playmate of the month at the same time?
Any true conspirator will tell you it is because the masterminds are so smart that it's too easy for them to pull this whole thing off flawlessly, so they leave behind little deliberate clues, just to make it fun!

This is what some CT nuts actually believe.
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Yes I have heard some CTers claim that the perpetrators made their plot obvious on purpose because they're mocking the stupidity of the average citizen.

Of course they didn't count on the super observational powers of the awesomely smart Truth Movement...

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Yes I have heard some CTers claim that the perpetrators made their plot obvious on purpose because they're mocking the stupidity of the average citizen.

Of course they didn't count on the super observational powers of the awesomely smart Truth Movement...

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Yes I have heard some CTers claim that the perpetrators made their plot obvious on purpose because they're mocking the stupidity of the average citizen.

Of course they didn't count on the super observational powers of the awesomely smart Truth Movement...

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LOL! I just ran across a truther essentially say the same thing!
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Its a large document, you'll have to search for "J. Peruggia" and the number "7".

Sorry I don't have time to cut and paste. But please check it out.
There is a split version of this available on the nytimes website here: http://graphics8.nytimes.com/package...IC/9110160.PDF
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PS Ever see any truthers in MA? I'm from MA also and can't find them.
Nope. I live in MA, too. I had a coworker who excitedly mentioned a 'cool 9/11 movie' he saw on the internet that somebody showed him. I told him that the 9/11 internet movies have all been debunked, and that if he let me know which one it was I could steer him in the right direction regarding real information.
He just shrugged and said, "nah, I figured it was lot bull anyway." I got the impression that if nobody challenged him, he would have told everyone in the office about his 'find' and seem like a really informed guy, but as soon as someone knew more than him he quickly dropped the whole charade. He hasn't mentioned it since.

That's my only run-in with 9/11 conspiracies so far. Then again, most of my friends are engineers and professionals. Funny how the more educated social circles tend to have less 'truthers'.

What part of MA are you in, DGM?
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Here is what looks like video inside WTC7 after the first building fell.

Start watching at about 21:45 minutes in.

http://www.archive.org/details/bbc200109111121-1202
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Old 3rd July 2007, 10:08 AM   #34
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Fetzer issued one of his "press releases" yesterday, trying to claim that it's all coming together.

It's one of those articles that's so frustrating to read that it's almost not even worth mentioning:

"NIST exploring 9/11 conspiracy theory for WTC-7: New witness confirms Scholars previous findings"

New witness confirms a death ray from outer space? Oh, guess not...
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News on Berry Jennings?

What is the latest information on Berry Jennings. Will Gravy debunk his comments as he did William Rodriguez?
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What is the latest information on Berry Jennings. Will Gravy debunk his comments as he did William Rodriguez?
It's Barry.
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You need to understand that Gravy doesn't need to debunk every single thing. He's just a human, with a life. Also, since the CD theory isn't plausible, why should we still bother with it? (I'm assuming that is what this is about, if not, disregard)
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Barry Jennings was kidnapped by the Zionists. They are trying to convert him to Kabbalaism.

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I thought Jennings would come forward with more details about his experience with the explosion in the stairwell of WTC 7 after the latest edition of LC came out.

Why wouldn’t Gravy try to debunk Jennings. He did so well with Rodriguez.
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because jennings isn't out to make money off of his lies. And what would be the point of Jennings coming out? he said he heard explosions; he did not see bombs and we already know that he is messed up on his timeline of events. His "issue" is really a non-issue, since facts do not support his claims.
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