Christopher Bollyn, Fugitive from Justice

Brainster · 26th June 2007, 08:00 AM

Well, his sentencing date came and the crusading reporter for Truth was nowhere to be found:

Quote:

A judge issued a warrant today for the arrest of Christopher Lee Bollyn, the one-time Hoffman Estates mayoral candidate convicted by a jury in June of resisting arrest and aggravated assault.

Bollyn, 50, was scheduled to be sentenced this morning, but never showed in court.

Cook County Judge Hyman Riebman issued the no-bond warrant about an hour after the scheduled court time.

“I’m not certain of the exact reason” he failed to appear, Bollyn’s lawyer, Paul Moreschi, said afterward. “I really just don’t know.”

Personally, I suspect the Mossad. Cui bono?

Gravy · 26th June 2007, 08:24 AM

Can news of the establishment of the "Free Christian Republic of Bollynia" be far off?

Arkan_Wolfshade · 26th June 2007, 08:32 AM

neo-nazi smacktard

Panoply_Prefect · 26th June 2007, 08:35 AM

Wasn't he aiming for political asylum in Norway? (no, really!)

/S

Calcas · 26th June 2007, 08:40 AM

Originally Posted by SLOB

Wasn't he aiming for political asylum in Norway? (no, really!)

/S

That's what he wrote.

"I intend to seek asylum in Norway or Switzerland. I can read the writing on the wall.

"http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?read=91920

NickUK · 26th June 2007, 08:57 AM

Originally Posted by SLOB

Wasn't he aiming for political asylum in Norway? (no, really!)

/S

Who is 'our man' in Norway these days?

Panoply_Prefect · 26th June 2007, 09:00 AM

Originally Posted by Calcas

That's what he wrote.

"I intend to seek asylum in Norway or Switzerland. I can read the writing on the wall.

"http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?read=91920

There ya'go. He be in a small "hytte", just outside of Tromsø , going on "tur" each day, wearing nothing but his "lusekofte".

/S

Triterope · 26th June 2007, 09:02 AM

Originally Posted by Gravy

Can news of the establishment of the "Free Christian Republic of Bollynia" be far off?

Considering the success Ed Brown's had thumbing his nose at the legal system, that's a fairly real possibility.

CurtC · 26th June 2007, 09:14 AM

With the comments he had made about fleeing to Norway, I wonder why the hell they let him out on bail?

CptColumbo · 26th June 2007, 09:26 AM

^Maybe they aren't losers who spend all day on internet forums....damn.

negativ · 26th June 2007, 09:52 AM

Originally Posted by CurtC

With the comments he had made about fleeing to Norway, I wonder why the hell they let him out on bail?

Probably because they know that, living in Norway, he's likely to some day eat lutefisk, and there's not much worse the US legal system could do to him.

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Alareth · 26th June 2007, 11:32 AM

He's gone to Israel. There, working undercover he can destroy the zionists that have framed him from within.

uk_dave · 26th June 2007, 12:10 PM

Originally Posted by Alareth

....that have framed him from within.

That's gotta hurt.

bje · 26th June 2007, 01:56 PM

Originally Posted by Calcas

That's what he wrote.

"I intend to seek asylum in Norway or Switzerland. I can read the writing on the wall.

"http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?read=91920

I guarantee he will never get asylum in Switzerland. But I know a few good asylums in Switzerland that would take him.

Oxigen · 26th June 2007, 02:44 PM

Hope none of you need to call 911 anytime soon.

uk_dave · 26th June 2007, 02:59 PM

Originally Posted by Oxigen

Hope none of you need to call 911 anytime soon.

Why, is it busy?

Thunder · 26th June 2007, 03:14 PM

Awesome, another Truther martyr.

Cl1mh4224rd · 26th June 2007, 03:49 PM

Originally Posted by Brainster

Well, his sentencing date came and the crusading reporter for Truth was nowhere to be found:

Heh. He moved in with the Browns...

Jonnyclueless · 26th June 2007, 05:01 PM

I guess if the northwoods documents proves the government engineered 9/11, then this guys previous theft and assault arrests prove he assaulted the police?

JimBenArm · 26th June 2007, 05:07 PM

Originally Posted by Oxigen

Hope none of you need to call 911 anytime soon.

"The number you have dialed; 9 - 1 - 1; has been changed to a non-published number..."

A W Smith · 26th June 2007, 05:11 PM

is there a possibility we get to see Bollyn on tv?

Arkan_Wolfshade · 26th June 2007, 05:16 PM

Originally Posted by Oxigen

Hope none of you need to call 911 anytime soon.

Or at least call 911 on the plain clothes cops outside your house.

Slayhamlet · 26th June 2007, 05:20 PM

Originally Posted by A W Smith

is there a possibility we get to see Bollyn on tv?

That would be funny as hell. I'd probably tape it.

Alareth · 26th June 2007, 05:34 PM

As long as he doesn't take tips on hiding from another neo-nazi, he might be able to diasappear for a while.

PhantomWolf · 26th June 2007, 07:05 PM

Originally Posted by A W Smith

is there a possibility we get to see Bollyn on tv?

Not unless he is hiding out in Hawaii

WildCat · 26th June 2007, 07:44 PM

Originally Posted by A W Smith

is there a possibility we get to see Bollyn on tv?

Illinois does not use bounty hunters.

Brainster · 26th June 2007, 10:15 PM

Originally Posted by A W Smith

is there a possibility we get to see Bollyn on tv?

Bollyn was on the Paula Zahn segment on anti-semitic 9-11 conspiracy theories, which broke the night Steve Lemons and I put up our stories on Eric Williams and the 9-11 Accountability Conference.

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Mashuna · 27th June 2007, 02:06 AM

Originally Posted by Oxigen

Hope none of you need to call 911 anytime soon.

Because 911 was an inside job?

jsiv · 27th June 2007, 05:43 AM

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SpitfireIX · 27th June 2007, 05:02 PM

Originally Posted by CurtC

With the comments he had made about fleeing to Norway, I wonder why the hell they let him out on bail?

Because the charges weren't that serious (relatively), and the judge probably assumed that a reasonable person with a family and other connections to the community wouldn't flee the country (and forfeit his bail) just to avoid a possible one-year (or so) prison sentence.

Also, I believe (though LashL or anyone else can correct me if I'm wrong) that once bail is set, merely talking about fleeing wouldn't be sufficient justification for having it revoked.

Cl1mh4224rd · 27th June 2007, 06:19 PM

OK, so... I just read the article (heh). It doesn't really say that they can't find him; just that he never showed up for the sentencing.

I'm assuming, and correct me if I'm wrong, that an arrest warrant would be issued for the mere act of not showing up, without any kind of search beforehand (in fact, this was issued an hour after his failure to appear).

Although I would also imagine his lawyer would be calling him up and going, "Wtf?"

I think it's pretty safe to assume that he's hiding somewhere, though.

*shrug* My buzz is wearing off.

fezzic · 27th June 2007, 07:02 PM

I think that it would be up to the prosecutor to petition the court to revoke bail and incarcerate, if the defendant's talk about fleeing was taken seriously, else nothing would happen.

*****

I would think that the judge would issue a bench warrant to enable the police to track down, arrest, and deliver the subject of the warrant to the court. I would think that the defendant is burning up any slack the judge might have been inclined to grant, if any, by causing problems like this.

PhantomWolf · 27th June 2007, 07:09 PM

He'll probably get in bigger trouble for running than he would had he just taken the rap. I have to admit I don't know what the sentance was, but here it'd be a find and a slap on the wrist with a soggy bus ticket.

LashL · 27th June 2007, 09:28 PM

Originally Posted by SpitfireIX

Because the charges weren't that serious (relatively), and the judge probably assumed that a reasonable person with a family and other connections to the community wouldn't flee the country (and forfeit his bail) just to avoid a possible one-year (or so) prison sentence.

Also, I believe (though LashL or anyone else can correct me if I'm wrong) that once bail is set, merely talking about fleeing wouldn't be sufficient justification for having it revoked.

You are correct, SpitFireIX. First of all, the odds of the police or court personnel even knowing of Bollyn's musings about possibly fleeing are pretty small. Courts process hundreds of individuals and hundreds of charges every day. Police officers carry on about their business after the trial without likely giving it any more thought. Someone will eventually inform them of the sentence imposed, but in the meantime, they are back on the streets, doing their jobs, and are highly unlikely to go trawling the internet to see whether Bollyn is blogging about fleeing the country.

Second, even if they did happen to see comments to that effect, they could not just revoke his bail without bringing an application for bail revocation, since talking about leaving the country is not a criminal offence in and of itself. At a bail revocation hearing, the prosecution would probably have to show more than mere words, but also means and genuine flight risk.

Disclaimer: I base the foregoing on the law here and do not know if there is some express law to the contrary in Illinois, but I highly doubt that merely writing something on the internet about "seeking asylum" in another country would be sufficient on its own even in Illinois

LashL · 27th June 2007, 09:48 PM

Originally Posted by Cl1mh4224rd

I'm assuming, and correct me if I'm wrong, that an arrest warrant would be issued for the mere act of not showing up, without any kind of search beforehand (in fact, this was issued an hour after his failure to appear).

Although I would also imagine his lawyer would be calling him up and going, "Wtf?"

Yes, the court would have issued a bench warrant as a result of his failure to appear for sentencing, in the absence of any reasonable explanation from his counsel regarding his non-attendance (which there wasn't, in this case), and the failure to appear is another, separate charge.

When one gets arrested on a warrant for failing to appear, one generally gets locked up on the FTA charge and held for a bail hearing rather than gaining release from the police station, and courts sometimes treat FTA charges more severely than the original charges (depending on the original charges, of course).

Originally Posted by fezzic

I think that it would be up to the prosecutor to petition the court to revoke bail and incarcerate, if the defendant's talk about fleeing was taken seriously, else nothing would happen.

*****

I would think that the judge would issue a bench warrant to enable the police to track down, arrest, and deliver the subject of the warrant to the court. I would think that the defendant is burning up any slack the judge might have been inclined to grant, if any, by causing problems like this.

Yes, that is the normal procedure. When someone doesn't show up for a court appearance, the prosecution asks the court for a warrant for the failure to appear. Then, when the person is arrested on the warrant, they are held in custody pending a bail hearing. The sentencing judge from the previous charges won't be happy that the accused didn't show up for sentencing, so they may very well hold him in custody until he is sentenced on the original charges, since he has demonstrated that he will not obey the court's order (to show up for sentencing) otherwise, etc. And yes, you are quite right that the sentencing judge will certainly take into account Bollyn's failure to appear for sentencing when deciding upon the appropriate punishment.

Jonnyclueless · 27th June 2007, 09:58 PM

Has anyone called Dog the Bounty Hunter?

PhantomWolf · 27th June 2007, 09:59 PM

Originally Posted by Jonnyclueless

Has anyone called Dog the Bounty Hunter?

Toseeked

Jonnyclueless · 27th June 2007, 10:55 PM

Originally Posted by PhantomWolf

Toseeked

Yes, but did anyone call him yet? ;-)

Oxigen · 28th June 2007, 01:58 PM

Not another martyr,just think for myself and evaluate the evidence. It doesn/t convince me so far.

CptColumbo · 28th June 2007, 02:33 PM

Originally Posted by Oxigen

Not another martyr,just think for myself and evaluate the evidence. It doesn/t convince me so far.

I am afraid I'm not following you, in more ways than one.

1. Are you trying to make some kind of point?

2. If so, what is it?

26th June 2007, 08:00 AM	#1
Brainster Penultimate Amazing Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 18,745	Christopher Bollyn, Fugitive from Justice Well, his sentencing date came and the crusading reporter for Truth was nowhere to be found: Quote: A judge issued a warrant today for the arrest of Christopher Lee Bollyn, the one-time Hoffman Estates mayoral candidate convicted by a jury in June of resisting arrest and aggravated assault. Bollyn, 50, was scheduled to be sentenced this morning, but never showed in court. Cook County Judge Hyman Riebman issued the no-bond warrant about an hour after the scheduled court time. “I’m not certain of the exact reason” he failed to appear, Bollyn’s lawyer, Paul Moreschi, said afterward. “I really just don’t know.” Personally, I suspect the Mossad. Cui bono?
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26th June 2007, 08:24 AM	#2
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26th June 2007, 08:40 AM	#5
Calcas Graduate Poster Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 1,466	Originally Posted by SLOB Wasn't he aiming for political asylum in Norway? (no, really!) /S That's what he wrote. "I intend to seek asylum in Norway or Switzerland. I can read the writing on the wall. "http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?read=91920
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26th June 2007, 08:57 AM	#6
NickUK Critical Thinker Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 498	Originally Posted by SLOB Wasn't he aiming for political asylum in Norway? (no, really!) /S Who is 'our man' in Norway these days?
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26th June 2007, 09:02 AM	#8
Triterope Muse Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 916	Originally Posted by Gravy Can news of the establishment of the "Free Christian Republic of Bollynia" be far off? Considering the success Ed Brown's had thumbing his nose at the legal system, that's a fairly real possibility.
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26th June 2007, 08:32 AM	#3
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26th June 2007, 09:00 AM	#7
Panoply_Prefect Graduate Poster Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,075	Originally Posted by Calcas That's what he wrote. "I intend to seek asylum in Norway or Switzerland. I can read the writing on the wall. "http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?read=91920 There ya'go. He be in a small "hytte", just outside of Tromsø , going on "tur" each day, wearing nothing but his "lusekofte". /S

26th June 2007, 09:14 AM	#9
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26th June 2007, 09:52 AM	#11
negativ Graduate Poster Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,904	Originally Posted by CurtC With the comments he had made about fleeing to Norway, I wonder why the hell they let him out on bail? Probably because they know that, living in Norway, he's likely to some day eat lutefisk, and there's not much worse the US legal system could do to him. Quote: Lutefisk is instead pretty much what you'd expect of jellied cod; it is a foul and odiferous goo, whose gelatinous texture and rancid oily taste are locked in spirited competition to see which can be the more responsible for rendering the whole completely inedble. How to describe that first bite? Its a bit like describing passing a kidneystone to the uninitiated. If you are talking to someone else who has lived through the experience, a nod will suffice to acknowledge your shared pain, but to explain it to the person who has not been there, mere words seem inadequate to the task. So it is with lutefisk. One could bandy about the time honored phrases like "nauseating sordid gunk", "unimaginably horrific", "lasting psychological damage", but these seem hollow when applied to the task at hand. I will have to resort to a recipe for a kind of metaphorical lutefisk, to describe the experience. Take marshmallows made without sugar, blend them together with overcooked Japanese noodles, and then bathe the whole liberally in acetone. Let it marinate in cod liver oil for several days at room temprature. When it has achieved the appropriate consistency (though the word "appropriate" is somewhat problematic here), heat it to just above lukewarm, sprinkle in thousands of tiny, sharp, invisible fish bones, and serve.
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uk_dave Philosopher Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 8,154	Originally Posted by Alareth ....that have framed him from within. That's gotta hurt.
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26th June 2007, 01:56 PM	#14
bje Graduate Poster Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,281	Originally Posted by Calcas That's what he wrote. "I intend to seek asylum in Norway or Switzerland. I can read the writing on the wall. "http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?read=91920 I guarantee he will never get asylum in Switzerland. But I know a few good asylums in Switzerland that would take him.
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26th June 2007, 02:59 PM	#16
uk_dave Philosopher Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 8,154	Originally Posted by Oxigen Hope none of you need to call 911 anytime soon. Why, is it busy?
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26th June 2007, 03:49 PM	#18
Cl1mh4224rd Philosopher Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 9,778	Originally Posted by Brainster Well, his sentencing date came and the crusading reporter for Truth was nowhere to be found: Heh. He moved in with the Browns...
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26th June 2007, 05:01 PM	#19
Jonnyclueless Philosopher Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 5,546	I guess if the northwoods documents proves the government engineered 9/11, then this guys previous theft and assault arrests prove he assaulted the police?

26th June 2007, 05:07 PM	#20
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26th June 2007, 05:16 PM	#22
Arkan_Wolfshade Philosopher Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 7,154	Originally Posted by Oxigen Hope none of you need to call 911 anytime soon. Or at least call 911 on the plain clothes cops outside your house.

26th June 2007, 05:20 PM	#23
Slayhamlet Master Poster Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 2,423	Originally Posted by A W Smith is there a possibility we get to see Bollyn on tv? That would be funny as hell. I'd probably tape it.

26th June 2007, 05:34 PM	#24
Alareth Philosopher Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 7,682	As long as he doesn't take tips on hiding from another neo-nazi, he might be able to diasappear for a while.

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PhantomWolf Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 21,203	Originally Posted by A W Smith is there a possibility we get to see Bollyn on tv? Not unless he is hiding out in Hawaii
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WildCat NWO Master Conspirator Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 59,856	Originally Posted by A W Smith is there a possibility we get to see Bollyn on tv? Illinois does not use bounty hunters.
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27th June 2007, 02:06 AM	#28
Mashuna Ovis ex Machina Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 6,856	Originally Posted by Oxigen Hope none of you need to call 911 anytime soon. Because 911 was an inside job?
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27th June 2007, 05:02 PM	#30
SpitfireIX Philosopher Join Date: May 2007 Location: Niceville, Florida, USA Posts: 5,239	Originally Posted by CurtC With the comments he had made about fleeing to Norway, I wonder why the hell they let him out on bail? Because the charges weren't that serious (relatively), and the judge probably assumed that a reasonable person with a family and other connections to the community wouldn't flee the country (and forfeit his bail) just to avoid a possible one-year (or so) prison sentence. Also, I believe (though LashL or anyone else can correct me if I'm wrong) that once bail is set, merely talking about fleeing wouldn't be sufficient justification for having it revoked.
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27th June 2007, 06:19 PM	#31
Cl1mh4224rd Philosopher Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 9,778	OK, so... I just read the article (heh). It doesn't really say that they can't find him; just that he never showed up for the sentencing. I'm assuming, and correct me if I'm wrong, that an arrest warrant would be issued for the mere act of not showing up, without any kind of search beforehand (in fact, this was issued an hour after his failure to appear). Although I would also imagine his lawyer would be calling him up and going, "Wtf?" I think it's pretty safe to assume that he's hiding somewhere, though. shrug My buzz is wearing off.
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27th June 2007, 07:02 PM	#32
fezzic Muse Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 499	I think that it would be up to the prosecutor to petition the court to revoke bail and incarcerate, if the defendant's talk about fleeing was taken seriously, else nothing would happen. ***** I would think that the judge would issue a bench warrant to enable the police to track down, arrest, and deliver the subject of the warrant to the court. I would think that the defendant is burning up any slack the judge might have been inclined to grant, if any, by causing problems like this.
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27th June 2007, 07:09 PM	#33
PhantomWolf Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 21,203	He'll probably get in bigger trouble for running than he would had he just taken the rap. I have to admit I don't know what the sentance was, but here it'd be a find and a slap on the wrist with a soggy bus ticket.
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27th June 2007, 09:28 PM	#34
LashL Goddess of Legaltainment™ Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 35,959	Originally Posted by SpitfireIX Because the charges weren't that serious (relatively), and the judge probably assumed that a reasonable person with a family and other connections to the community wouldn't flee the country (and forfeit his bail) just to avoid a possible one-year (or so) prison sentence. Also, I believe (though LashL or anyone else can correct me if I'm wrong) that once bail is set, merely talking about fleeing wouldn't be sufficient justification for having it revoked. You are correct, SpitFireIX. First of all, the odds of the police or court personnel even knowing of Bollyn's musings about possibly fleeing are pretty small. Courts process hundreds of individuals and hundreds of charges every day. Police officers carry on about their business after the trial without likely giving it any more thought. Someone will eventually inform them of the sentence imposed, but in the meantime, they are back on the streets, doing their jobs, and are highly unlikely to go trawling the internet to see whether Bollyn is blogging about fleeing the country. Second, even if they did happen to see comments to that effect, they could not just revoke his bail without bringing an application for bail revocation, since talking about leaving the country is not a criminal offence in and of itself. At a bail revocation hearing, the prosecution would probably have to show more than mere words, but also means and genuine flight risk. Disclaimer: I base the foregoing on the law here and do not know if there is some express law to the contrary in Illinois, but I highly doubt that merely writing something on the internet about "seeking asylum" in another country would be sufficient on its own even in Illinois
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27th June 2007, 09:48 PM	#35
LashL Goddess of Legaltainment™ Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 35,959	Originally Posted by Cl1mh4224rd I'm assuming, and correct me if I'm wrong, that an arrest warrant would be issued for the mere act of not showing up, without any kind of search beforehand (in fact, this was issued an hour after his failure to appear). Although I would also imagine his lawyer would be calling him up and going, "Wtf?" Yes, the court would have issued a bench warrant as a result of his failure to appear for sentencing, in the absence of any reasonable explanation from his counsel regarding his non-attendance (which there wasn't, in this case), and the failure to appear is another, separate charge. When one gets arrested on a warrant for failing to appear, one generally gets locked up on the FTA charge and held for a bail hearing rather than gaining release from the police station, and courts sometimes treat FTA charges more severely than the original charges (depending on the original charges, of course). Originally Posted by fezzic I think that it would be up to the prosecutor to petition the court to revoke bail and incarcerate, if the defendant's talk about fleeing was taken seriously, else nothing would happen. ***** I would think that the judge would issue a bench warrant to enable the police to track down, arrest, and deliver the subject of the warrant to the court. I would think that the defendant is burning up any slack the judge might have been inclined to grant, if any, by causing problems like this. Yes, that is the normal procedure. When someone doesn't show up for a court appearance, the prosecution asks the court for a warrant for the failure to appear. Then, when the person is arrested on the warrant, they are held in custody pending a bail hearing. The sentencing judge from the previous charges won't be happy that the accused didn't show up for sentencing, so they may very well hold him in custody until he is sentenced on the original charges, since he has demonstrated that he will not obey the court's order (to show up for sentencing) otherwise, etc. And yes, you are quite right that the sentencing judge will certainly take into account Bollyn's failure to appear for sentencing when deciding upon the appropriate punishment.

27th June 2007, 09:58 PM	#36
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