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Old 30th July 2007, 07:05 AM   #1
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David Shayler debunks self

For all those who thought no-planes represented the most extreme views of ex-MI5 officer David Shayler, he's exceeded them x1000 by, it seems, heading full-on into David Icke territory.

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"An extremely tolerant and generally sympathetic audience sat in stunned silence as they endured an hour long narcissistic monologue during which a frail-looking David Shayler explained that he was not only the re-incarnation of the Christ but also the re-incarnation of King Arthur, Leonardo Da Vinci and a whole host of other historically significant characters."
http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?p=83285
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Old 30th July 2007, 07:08 AM   #2
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Sounds just like our friend Galileo on this site. He claims to be related to many you have mentioned...lol

Perhaps Gal is Shayler.

Another Kook steps off the deep end of the deep end.

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Apparently, it's something in the water...or the sheep....or maybe he scored some bad acid at the festival this year.... or maybe he hasn't quite come to terms with the fact that Roger Daltrey appears to be immortal......

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He's right though. You never see a Chinese Feng Shui master in Glastonbury. Spoooooky!
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Old 30th July 2007, 07:12 AM   #4
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FINALLY! Maybe this is the guy that will finally blow the lid off 9/11 and put the blame where it really belongs.

Directly on the dastardly Knights Templar.
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Old 30th July 2007, 07:17 AM   #5
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It's a scary time to be a David in the UK.....

...... for I am the son of light and upon my breath the heralds of a thousand demons shall perish like butterflies in the torrent of a summer storm.
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Old 30th July 2007, 09:46 AM   #6
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Shayler really has gone space cadet.
He has found his audience on the UK festival circuit.

Warning -Concentrated Woo.

http://people.tribe.net/knowledgeisp...8-ca8fdf4a4148
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Old 30th July 2007, 09:55 AM   #7
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Originally Posted by scissorhands View Post
Shayler really has gone space cadet.
He has found his audience on the UK festival circuit.

Warning -Concentrated Woo.

http://people.tribe.net/knowledgeisp...8-ca8fdf4a4148
Apparently......

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It was phat.


I'm sooooo embarassed. Honestly though, not everyone in the UK is like that.

Please believe me.

Pleeeaaasssseeee.

We only have people like that for the tourists, see? Just like the Royal family and Scotland. They serve no useful purpose other than to attract tourists.

OK OK, I'll get the NWO Kitty onto it.
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You need to find your inner self with some crystal therapy magick.
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Old 30th July 2007, 10:25 AM   #9
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What the hell is happening with the 9/11 CTers lately? They all seem raving, purple-veined crazy, and/or are 15 year old kids. It was hard to imagine the thruthers going downhill (they started out pretty low to begin with), but against all odds they seem to be doing it.
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Old 30th July 2007, 10:32 AM   #10
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Sounds like Shayler has been got at. First I thought he was playing a dirty game, but this is delusional stuff. Looking frail?

Slow poisoning not out of the question.


When faced with the possibility that a conspiracy theorist might be insane, any other explanation, no matter how unparsimonious, is preferable.
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Old 30th July 2007, 10:32 AM   #11
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You need to find your inner self with some crystal therapy magick.
I suspect many truthers, who have major web sites, use the same as the fuel to make them go.
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Old 30th July 2007, 10:35 AM   #12
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I say well done Gravy and all at Chemtrail Towers, we've mind controlled another one!

High Fives all round!
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Old 30th July 2007, 10:42 AM   #13
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Originally Posted by scissorhands View Post
Shayler really has gone space cadet.
He has found his audience on the UK festival circuit.

Warning -Concentrated Woo.

http://people.tribe.net/knowledgeisp...8-ca8fdf4a4148
I can endure space beams, pyroclastic flows and imaginary flyovers (for a while) but this is the kind of woo that really freaks me out.
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Old 30th July 2007, 11:16 AM   #14
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Everyone can enjoy the Oneheart Weave in their own capacity without being a “dancer”. This Dance already happens naturally throughout our Body and the Universe. By actually following its pattern with the one beat rhythm of the drum (complementary instruments optional) we can overcome all the imbalances throughout the body and consequently attain the harmony between Heart and Mind. This unification correlates with the prophetic union of the Condor (Heart) and the Eagle (Mind).

We all came from the same Oneness and will return to the Oneness. HOW we will return is the Question. So, the last question is… “to BE or not to BE”. The “in-between”, from Oneness to Oneness, is the Realm we find ourselves in today… to find out what it takes to bridge the two sides which are One in essence. This “in-between is the “Dance”. The “not to BE” is identified by the “Dance” or fleeting moment. The “Dancer” relative to the “Dance” is the Eternal Self, the one who we truly ARE. In the “Dance” we literally “shake off” the “not to BE” or illusory “me”. This course of action can go along with the Joy from the Heart. The sacred Oneheart Dance-path has been given by the Universe for this purpose. With the comprehension of the following texts the Dancer can become more powerful with each Step, to then “Fly in Spirit”.
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Old 30th July 2007, 12:14 PM   #15
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It's a scary time to be a David in the UK.....

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Old 30th July 2007, 12:45 PM   #16
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I guess those drugs MI5 slipped into his bedtime cocoa have worked ...
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Old 30th July 2007, 01:03 PM   #17
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Originally Posted by Stellafane View Post
What the hell is happening with the 9/11 CTers lately? They all seem raving, purple-veined crazy, and/or are 15 year old kids.
As anyone with a lick of sense would realize eventually that the conspiracy theories are crazy, after a while the only ones left are the craziest.
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Old 30th July 2007, 01:33 PM   #18
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Originally Posted by T.A.M. View Post
Sounds just like our friend Galileo on this site. He claims to be related to many you have mentioned...lol

Perhaps Gal is Shayler.

Another Kook steps off the deep end of the deep end.

TAM

I'm related to Isaac Newton!!@1 Well, he'd be like a nth cousin nth removed. His grandfather is in my paternal line.

It's really nothing special though. If you go through enough generations, everybody is related to everybody. Ghengis Khan is said to be the ultimate father of something like 0.5% of the entire world. Claiming to be descended from someone else is really just trying to use their fame to prop up your own claims. It's a pathetic argument.
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Old 30th July 2007, 02:26 PM   #19
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If Shayler was King Arthur in a previous life, then I'm gonna be Jon Ronson in my next one, just so I can swear at him on BBC radio lol.
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Old 30th July 2007, 02:31 PM   #20
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Funny retrospective about his interview with Shayler from Jon Ronson here.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/weekend/st...118442,00.html

And here is David, frightening innocent people at The Big Green Gathering.


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Old 30th July 2007, 02:49 PM   #21
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Haven't you ever hear of pixelation? Eeeeeeewwwwww...
It took me long enough to photoshop the underwear on, I didnt think Id need to pixellate it too.
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Old 30th July 2007, 03:10 PM   #23
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Originally Posted by Newtons Bit View Post

It's really nothing special though. If you go through enough generations, everybody is related to everybody. Ghengis Khan is said to be the ultimate father of something like 0.5% of the entire world....
Try this - you have 2 parents, 4 grandparents, 8 great-grandparents, 16 great-great-grandparents etc etc.
Go back enough generations and you'll have more ancestors than the total population of the world at the time. Therefore, everyone *must* be descended from Ghengis Khan (and, for many of us, Isaac Newton)

Hi cousin !
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Try this - you have 2 parents, 4 grandparents, 8 great-grandparents, 16 great-great-grandparents etc etc.
Go back enough generations and you'll have more ancestors than the total population of the world at the time. Therefore, everyone *must* be descended from Ghengis Khan (and, for many of us, Isaac Newton)

Hi cousin !
Whoa... Do you realize what this means? This could only mean that trillions of human beings spontaneously popped into existence some many thousands years ago and the population has been dwindling ever since. You can't argue with the math!
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Whoa... Do you realize what this means? This could only mean that trillions of human beings spontaneously popped into existence some many thousands years ago and the population has been dwindling ever since. You can't argue with the math!

I love the flaw in the logic of this. It's a fun one
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I love the flaw in the logic of this. It's a fun one
yep - we're all one big happy family
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yep - we're all one big happy family
Dad? Is that you?
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What the hell is happening with the 9/11 CTers lately? They all seem raving, purple-veined crazy, and/or are 15 year old kids. It was hard to imagine the thruthers going downhill (they started out pretty low to begin with), but against all odds they seem to be doing it.
I have noticed this as well.

I think its due to the original theories being shown to be absurd and you either save face and see your mistakes then and there or delve even deeper to the well of crazy.

The CTer, whos sole ambition is to attract attention to themselves to help elevate self importance in their drab boring lives, lends themselves to even more extreme and radical scenarios.

Life is more fun when your in your own personal Jame Bond sequel. To combat debunking, just add a new twist (eg: I am a reincarnation of Adolf Hitler) in the movie plot.

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Originally Posted by scissorhands View Post
Funny retrospective about his interview with Shayler from Jon Ronson here.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/weekend/st...118442,00.html

And here is David, frightening innocent people at The Big Green Gathering.

http://www.skydancer.com/bgg/t28.jpg
Perhaps we can circumvent the new obscenity rules by adopting "what jon ronson said" instead of "**** Off!"
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It's a scary time to be a David in the UK.....
I dunno, apart from Icke and Shayler I'd say at least three of us are sane.

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...... for I am the son of light and upon my breath the heralds of a thousand demons shall perish like butterflies in the torrent of a summer storm.
... OK, maybe two.

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Just back away slooooowwllly.




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Wait, wait...let me see if I understand this.

This David Shayler character is ex-MI5, a truther and the UK movement's most prominent voice?

And now he's a no-planer who thinks he's God?

Do I have that right?
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Wait, wait...let me see if I understand this.

This David Shayler character is ex-MI5, a truther and the UK movement's most prominent voice?

And now he's a no-planer who thinks he's God?

Do I have that right?
Yes. Personally, I blame the giant shape-shifting alien space lizards.
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http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/vi...f590b9bf9e94cd

Lots of skunk and flyagaric mushrooms certainly help me when trying to unblock my emotional log jams and find the truth about 9/11.

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Thanks Watcher for your astute report.

No Thermate, this is certainly not the Glasto vibe, Dave was already planning last night's revelations whilst still in Bristol & Totnes, with those closest to him struggling to dissuade him, but to no avail, q.e.d..

This actually has been coming on for a very long time; I observed the beginnings of it last year when Dave was living under my roof. He was doing a lot of skunk and trying to clear up some massive internal emotional log-jam with the aid of mushrooms & a plant, can't remember their names, something beginning with A. He had issues going back to infancy which in fairness he was trying to deal with but kept getting distracted by psychic experiences (induced by the drugs) and of course the relationship with Annie was on the rocks too. It was immediately clear why: he lacked basic consideration for those around him, he was undisciplined, physically lazy and slovenly, in stark contrast to Annie, who is ultra-considerate, disciplined and a very hard worker as we all know.

To give David the benefit of the doubt though (despite everything I remain very fond of him and eternally respectful of his bravery in exposing the machinations of the secret state), the less attractive personal behaviours including the aggression if challenged (I soon learned not to!!) could well have been the beginnings of the psychosis; I've seen similar symptoms in my own schizophrenic daughter & fellow-patients with long-term mental illnesses. And I have to say I roundly blame the skunk and possibly the other substances for turning what yes, was very probably the beginnings of a spiritual awakening in the best sense into something sadly more mundane and pathological.

Well there it is: my view is that Dave needs rest and care and as little of the oxygen of publicity for his grandiose self-perceptions as can be arranged, or not arranged - for his own and everyone else's good he shouldn't be on platforms at the moment, at least yesterday's performance will have clarified that.

Holy, enlightened, Messianic, etc. is as holy, enlightened & Messianic does! It takes sometimes years of discipline and patient work on the self to achieve genuine spirituality, which then manifests as quiet power, attunement to people and to nature, delightful humour and a marked lack of any form of self-aggrandisement.

In the meantime, the best resource of any aspirant on the path, better than mushrooms, mantras or meditation etc. comes from working together with others, preferably those with a similar bent or a common goal, and from LISTENING, learning and looking out for each other. So I hope that Dave when he comes out of this (as I sincerely hope he will, he's a hugely worthwhile person as we all know) will put team-working and sensitivity to others much higher up his scale of priorities.

For the moment though he’s a sick member of our community who needs our love and care to help him recover, and those immediately involved in looking after him need to be supported too.
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David Shayler - the guy that kept being trotted out for the quote of the day on UK television news?

Admittedly this was probably back in the '90's, but... that guy?
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Yeah him, ex MI5 "whistleblower", he was in the limelight for a while when he ran off to France and wouldnt return to face the consequences of his actions.
He found 9/11 cts to suit his self aggrandisement since then.
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David Shayler - the guy that kept being trotted out for the quote of the day on UK television news?

Admittedly this was probably back in the '90's, but... that guy?
Yes that guy, the traitor who betrayed the trust his nation had put in him in order to sell a few books.

Sheller the jumped up filing clerk at the Security Service (“MI5”) who discovered that in eth 60’s and 70’s many people who later became Cabinet Ministers were members of leftwing organisations which the Security Service infiltrated. David Shayler who wrote about this revelation, and liked the publicity and so started making more and more incredible “revelations” about what eth security service got up too.
David Shayler that eventually started spouting no plane nonsense and JFK CT’s.

This is the bottom of along slope for this disgraceful human being, who was always much more interested in his own fame, ego and money than in truth.
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At least that report shows what is the most parsimonious explanation - he is doped out of his tiny mind currently, and is not holding his tish together.
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To this day I don't understand why he got so much airtime. He was treated like an expert opinion, from what I remember. Hopefully not anymore.
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